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Possessed said:

I’ve kinda went to a middle ground. I’m still probably drinking more than I should (more than the occasional few beers of before) but also quite a large amount less than before I went to rehab, which was about a 5th a day of mostly vodka (meaning I drank everything but of you added it up the total volume would be about a 5th) whereas now I’ve been on the same 5th for two days and it’s about half gone. Tolerance isn’t meat what it used to be, which is a good thing. I think once I finish the 5th I’ll just go back to drinking a few beers at night and smoking pot. It won’t kill me, but at least it’ll be something.

As much as I think you’re really walking the line here, I’m glad to hear that! Stay with us Possessed, none of us want to lose you.

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Yikes, that’s rough. Obviously that teacher is not truly living out her faith… What sort of question led her to ask you to think like a child molestor?

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Darthrush, from what I’ve gathered throughout the history of your posts regarding your religion, you are very clearly uncomfortable with it and don’t belong there. I don’t think you should keep participating. I don’t really have any advice because I understand the difficulty of your situation, especially given the Mormon church’s tendency to ostracize people who leave.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Darthrush, from what I’ve gathered throughout the history of your posts regarding your religion, you are very clearly uncomfortable with it and don’t belong there. I don’t think you should keep participating. I don’t really have any advice because I understand the difficulty of your situation, especially given the Mormon church’s tendency to ostracize people who leave.

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darthrush said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Darthrush, from what I’ve gathered throughout the history of your posts regarding your religion, you are very clearly uncomfortable with it and don’t belong there. I don’t think you should keep participating. I don’t really have any advice because I understand the difficulty of your situation, especially given the Mormon church’s tendency to ostracize people who leave.

Thank you for the advice moviefreakedmind. I am currently in high school and my dad is the stake president so I am probably going to have to wait until college to leave the church. It’ll be a hell of a ride though when I break the news to them. After skimming the exmormon reddit threads I decided it is best to slowly give clear hints of my issues with the church all done in a respectful and cordial manner. Then it will not be as sudden. I started this strategy by casually saying that I disagree with the churches stance on gay rights. After my dad heard this, he was a little taken aback but since he couldn’t really argue that, nothing got heated. If I take these sort of things one at a time, it’ll make everything easier.

Good on you man, you do what you need to do for you and it sounds like your strategy is solid and respectful. I’m sorry that your questions about the faith aren’t being answered very well, but a lot of times people don’t like questions because they can’t answer them and it makes them question their own faith.

Good luck, you’ve got my support either way!

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Tyrphanax said:

darthrush said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Darthrush, from what I’ve gathered throughout the history of your posts regarding your religion, you are very clearly uncomfortable with it and don’t belong there. I don’t think you should keep participating. I don’t really have any advice because I understand the difficulty of your situation, especially given the Mormon church’s tendency to ostracize people who leave.

Thank you for the advice moviefreakedmind. I am currently in high school and my dad is the stake president so I am probably going to have to wait until college to leave the church. It’ll be a hell of a ride though when I break the news to them. After skimming the exmormon reddit threads I decided it is best to slowly give clear hints of my issues with the church all done in a respectful and cordial manner. Then it will not be as sudden. I started this strategy by casually saying that I disagree with the churches stance on gay rights. After my dad heard this, he was a little taken aback but since he couldn’t really argue that, nothing got heated. If I take these sort of things one at a time, it’ll make everything easier.

Good on you man, you do what you need to do for you and it sounds like your strategy is solid and respectful. I’m sorry that your questions about the faith aren’t being answered very well, but a lot of times people don’t like questions because they can’t answer them and it makes them question their own faith.

Good luck, you’ve got my support either way!

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Good on you for approaching it in a respectful way rather than mocking your parents’ faith like some people do. It can be very hard for parents when their kids leave the religion they grew up with, so respectfully asking questions for now will make things easier for everyone.

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Class is literally about to start. This is so weird for everyone, ugh.

You got this.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Good on you for approaching it in a respectful way rather than mocking your parents’ faith like some people do. It can be very hard for parents when their kids leave the religion they grew up with, so respectfully asking questions for now will make things easier for everyone.

Exactly. Don’t burn any bridges unless you absolutely have to. So many people are so quick to leave their religion or come out or whatnot that they can cause irreparable damage to relationships that may one day become very important to them again. Respectful and tactful is always the way to go, in my mind.

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I would advise talking to Darth Ender about this, he is Mormon and knows a lot about the church. Perhaps you could PM him?

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I actually am very interested in this conversation and with answering your questions, darthrush. In spite of what some may say, or how others may act, many Mormons do not simply ostracize those who fall away. I have a feeling that nothing I say will ever restore your faith, and so that is not my intent. However, I am not uninformed on the topic or unintelligent. I tend to be very straightforward and honest, and may ask you to look at yourself a little in this process. But if you are truly interested in getting any answers, it might be worth your time to engage me in conversation.

I admit, as always, that I am a busy guy. I may not answer you for a little while, especially if your answers require lengthy responses. I will try to always answer your questions. My intent is to show you that we do not always shirk from answering hard questions, and that perhaps there is room for improvement on your end as well.

Without further ado, I introduce you to my thread. I have addressed the Letter to a CES Director in there to pretty good extents. I will answer questions there, should you choose to ask them.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Ask-the-member-of-the-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-AKA-Interrogate-the-Mormon/id/13442

I like you, darthrush. The first time you mentioned you were Mormon, I was pleased. The second time was a reminder, as I had forgotten, and I realized that you had lapsed. Your words that time kind of annoyed me, as I felt you were being condescending towards your seminary teacher. Over time, I have come to realize that you are a good guy, inside or outside my faith, and so I want you to know that I will not judge you for not having faith in the same things I do. But I do love my church, and so know that I will defend it with vigor. Hope you are up to the challenge. 😃

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Ender, I have no doubt that you and the majority of other Mormons wouldn’t even consider ostracizing somebody for their faith, but it is a very real thing in many Mormon communities. I’ve seen it happen to people that I know and (without speaking on his behalf) I think that darthrush has a legitimate reason to be worried.

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Oh, I do too. I just don’t like the stereotype. It would do well for him to not be fed a perception that may not be true. I would hope his new classmates might not be judgmental. He doesn’t need anyone to convince they will be before he’s even had the chance to attend class. In the end, he and you may have been exactly right. Maybe not. Maybe your and his anticipated reaction of the class members will taint his view of what they were truly thinking.

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I’m sorry about what Possessed is talking about. It really makes me sad just to read it.

Good news: Whatever they removed from grandfather is benign, thank God. He’s old, but hopefully he has years left in him.

Bad news: The lease expired and my parents had to borrow $700 from to make a down-payment on my dad’s new car. I’m trying to think of a non-asshole way to tell them they need to pay me back at some point. My dad lost his job. I understand it will be a while. It’s a hard time. We can barely make ends meet, and I’m doing what I can with my shitty job. My OCD spiked up again today. I’m trying the psychiatrist again on my next day off. I need to speak to the doctor because I’m worried about the side effects; Klonopin is making me sleep through my days off and I’m really concerned about the weight gain from the Abilify that I haven’t started it yet. Hopefully he won’t be pissed. Work is hell, as usual. The OCD really got worse today after a better patch. Fighting with my parents is so not what I need right now, but everything is so tense with the financial situation. The drugs have completely killed my libido, which is a whole separate thing. I’m worried about Possessed, I wish I had some good advice.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Mike O said:

I’m sorry about Possessed is talking about. It really makes me sad just to read it.

Good news: Whatever they removed from grandfather is benign, thank God. He’s old, but hopefully he has years left in him.

Bad news: The lease expired and my parents had to borrow $700 from to make a down-payment on my dad’s new car. I’m trying to think of a non-asshole way to tell them they need to pay me back at some point. My dad lost his job. I understand it will be a while. It’s a hard time. We can barely make ends meet, and I’m doing what I can with my shitty job. My OCD spiked up again today. I’m trying the psychiatrist again on my next day off. I need to speak to the doctor because I’m worried about the side effects; Klonopin is making me sleep through my days off and I’m really concerned about the weight gain from the Abilify that I haven’t started it yet. Hopefully he won’t be pissed. Work is hell, as usual. The OCD really got worse today after a better patch. Fighting with my parents is so not what I need right now, but everything is so tense with the financial situation. The drugs have completely killed my libido, which is a whole separate thing. I’m worried about Possessed, I wish I had some good advice.

I know I’ve mentioned this probably somewhere here but, in case it helps, survival can be the toughest challenge there is. The fact that you are still here proves that you do have the ability to manage and pull through.

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I hate life. I can only live so long with a perpetual broken heart, but it looks like the timer is approximately T minus 1 year and counting. I can “live” with that. lol

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I know what a broken heart feels like. I know that you don’t want people to tell you to get over it, because you don’t want to get over it (at least I didn’t). And you may never fully get over it. But finding some distance can end the cycle, and will almost certainly begin to mend the heart. It’s a tough thing to do, but it is true, and it will make you feel better.

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It’s not even really like that. But I don’t really know how to describe what it is like, so I guess I find myself in a conundrum. But I’ll be dead within a year anyway so no point trying to figure it out

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Well either way distance is important. It can be easy to be shortsighted when you’ve been in the same situation for awhile. If you feel sad, change the situation. I think you’d find your perspective would change too.