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I was in that situation.
I was convinced it was going to go my way (for once).
Totally misread it (pretended that I thought it wouldn’t go my way as usual).
I was so nervous I did the whole declaration of love stuff via email (not a good idea perhaps but at least I could be undignified in private 😄 )
My advice ask, face to face, in a speculative but lighthearted way if the prospect would be okay, don’t go in all aortas firing and if she says no don’t blame anyone, including yourself (disappointments just happen sometimes).
Keep the flames of friendship burning because friends are really good things to have in life.
If you don’t ask you’ll never know and will be kicking yourself for inaction.
And you never know, she might say yes and then you’ll have to live happily ever after or else, right?
I just want to tell you both good luck. We’re all counting on you.

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Pretty good advice. I probably won’t do anything for a while, but when the time comes I may consider that.

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TV’s Frink said:

Any of us men who think we always know what women will do are kidding ourselves.

Oh, now you tell me. Thanks a lot.

Also, FWIW I encountered a similar situation. Close to best friend, not a lot of other friends should that friendship get awkward, a few decades later and we’ve got kids and a mortgage. It sometimes does work out. But I stand by my initial assessment – get your own personal crap in order first, and that can do nothing but improve the odds of success (in addition to improving your odds of being able to handle it well if it doesn’t go your way). Desperation/hitting bottom/depression are great reasons to reach out to people, but not the best reasons for people to reach back out of anything but sympathy, and that’s not exactly what you’re angling for here.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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Well don’t worry guys, I wasn’t ever planning on ‘pouring my heart out to her’ or letting her know how intense the situation is. I wouldn’t exactly say I’ve ‘hit bottom’ either. I mean maybe as far as my feelings go, but as far as my physical situation (job, material things, etc) I’ve actually never been better.

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Just wanted to let any concerned parties that today I went into treatment for alcoholism/substance abuse/depression/anxiety/generallybeingadebbiedowner. It’s outpatient (obviously, or else I wouldn’t be posting here). Whether or not I will completely stop drinking/smoking pot is not yet clear, but I probably will have to. But at the very least I want to get to where it doesn’t completely run my life. At least to where I don’t have to have a couple drinks and a puff to go out in public, to work, to see my friends, etc. Don’t get the wrong idea, I’m not the “embarassing drunk” or stoner who walks around incoherently babbling, I just take a little to relax and face the day, but I’m tired of the cycle. I’ve been getting concerned comments from my coworkers lately about my appearance, that I appear tired, my eyes are baggy/glazed over/red. None of them said that I’ve been acting intoxicated, but I think with my appearance they are starting to put two and two together. In a concerned way, not a judgmental way. At least so far.

I haven’t drank or smoked so far today, (it’s about 1:30 PM where I live) and while I don’t feel cranky or irritable I don’t feel very good either. I feel really anxious and nervous, and somewhat sick to my stomach.

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Good luck. From what you’ve posted before, I think you made the right decision.

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Good on you man! Lots of luck with that. I know how that life can be. I was utterly dependent on pot and booze until about 5 months ago. I’ve been free of pot since October (I slipped slightly because someone brought some weed to a Halloween party I went to, but I regretted it immediately) and while I’m not absolutely free of booze, my drinking is only about 5% of what it used to be. I can’t say I don’t miss being stoned and drunk and dumb, but I don’t hate sobriety either.

Don’t do drugs, unless you’re with me.

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When I quit the nicotine gum I was fine. Everyone else was really on edge though 😄

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That’s great to hear! Speaking from my own experience though I would recommend setting an eventual goal of being substance-free. You never know when one drink will turn into two, and two into three etc. etc. until you’re back where you started.

I’m wishing you the best.

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Indeed that is my eventual goal but it’s going to take baby steps to get there. Today going to that appointment was the first time I’ve been in public sober for years. Its 417 now and I’m still sober, but I have to be at work at 7 and I’m not going to Be able to work without it. I’m hoping I will be able to by later this week.

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Good luck! I’m glad to hear you’re trying to get off of that stuff (and that other stuff).

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I’m having my first drink at 230 pm today, which is actually progress even though it’s earlier than yesterday. Yesterday I made it until about 530 cuz I had to work at 7. But today I had to be in at 10 am and I’ve managed to get through the first half of my work day until my lunch sober, so as pathetic as that is its a milestone,

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It’s a step in the right direction. Progress is progress.

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Glad to hear it Possessed.

I think I may also have some advice for you on your love life too. When I first read your situation I thought “well that’s some depressing shit, not much to be done about that.” I wasn’t in a good frame of mind though. At the time I was in some depressing relationship shit too, as I was also super into someone who wasn’t into me. Somehow word got to her how I felt and it was a little weird between us, but we never talked about it and it wasn’t really that big a deal when we interacted. Then she went abroad and I haven’t seen her since. And you know what? Once she was out of my life it became a lot easier to get over her.

BUT then, about a week ago (and a month after the last time I saw her) I get a message from one of her friends saying she was and is super into me. So we’re talking now and maybe it’ll turn into something and maybe it won’t. Point being, don’t be too quick to make assumptions in your head and get worked up about how things will go down. I’m not saying necessarily that she’ll be into you, but it’s possible, and, even if she’s not, the fallout from telling her might not be nearly as bad as you expect.

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As I mentioned over in another thread, in spite of having no personal participation and being fairly secure in my own beliefs (Short version: raised Catholic, gave me a good education a lot of moral values, wasn’t a literalist basically kept what I liked [respect for others, forgiveness, kindness, and some humility], chucked out most of the right-wing political attitudes, mostly felt like overall, it made me a good person and felt pretty satisfied with it it, always had a live-and-let policy as regarded religion, never forced anything I thought on others and never had anything forced on me, overall was pretty satisfied and comfortable.), I stumbled into a blazing theological row over at DVD Talk (Complete with videos!), and wound up in a weird panic attack. This is fine, they’ve happens before, but this one seems to be going on for days. I have Aspergers, depression, some panic attacks, and I’ve long suspected some mild OCD. All of a sudden all of this worry about about something I had not only made my own decisions about long ago, but have heard at least 1,000 times before on Bones, House, True Detective, and countless other things, keeps running in OCD loops in my head. It’s like a buzzing in my brain, it’s driving me insane! I’m fucking sick of this shit! I was finally past all of this. My life was messed up enough-living with my parents working a dead-end job in spite of having a college degree, being almost 29, and needing therapy for a long time-I didn’t need this madness returning to me. Do I seriously think I can solve the meaning of life in an Internet debate or on a cycle in my head! I haven’t had my anxiety go on this long for a long time, and I know that I’m being entirely silly! Why won’t this shit stop?!

Sorry. Just wanted to get that off of my chest. This is incredibly stupid. My DVR is accumulating things because I haven’t been watching them. I can function at work, but I don’t understand why I can just relax and take my mind off of things, especially since, and I cannot stress this enough, I’ve been through all of this many times before. I’ve my usual sensory overload: playing some video games while listening to aduiobooks and DVD commentaries (side note: Christopher Frayling’s stuff on Sergio Leome discs is gold), but it doesn’t seem to have stopped the endless static my brain seems to be offering up. It’s maddening. I just want to be relaxed again, so I can worry about my actual problems and go to work and work and not have to fight this at the same time.

According to what I’ve been reading, “stuck thoughts” are an actual concept in psychology. This sounds like what I’m reading about. I try to shift my thoughts towards countless other things, but my head feels so scrambled and keeps retuning me to stupid stuff. It’s driving me nuts.

Apologies to everybody for the babbling, just wanted to get that off my chest.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Possessed said:

Just wanted to let any concerned parties that today I went into treatment for alcoholism/substance abuse/depression/anxiety/generallybeingadebbiedowner. It’s outpatient (obviously, or else I wouldn’t be posting here). Whether or not I will completely stop drinking/smoking pot is not yet clear, but I probably will have to. But at the very least I want to get to where it doesn’t completely run my life. At least to where I don’t have to have a couple drinks and a puff to go out in public, to work, to see my friends, etc. Don’t get the wrong idea, I’m not the “embarassing drunk” or stoner who walks around incoherently babbling, I just take a little to relax and face the day, but I’m tired of the cycle. I’ve been getting concerned comments from my coworkers lately about my appearance, that I appear tired, my eyes are baggy/glazed over/red. None of them said that I’ve been acting intoxicated, but I think with my appearance they are starting to put two and two together. In a concerned way, not a judgmental way. At least so far.

I haven’t drank or smoked so far today, (it’s about 1:30 PM where I live) and while I don’t feel cranky or irritable I don’t feel very good either. I feel really anxious and nervous, and somewhat sick to my stomach.

I’m very glad to hear this, Possessed, I wish you the best of luck with the therapy. I’ll be praying.

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Sometimes I wonder how long I can really survive thinking of killing myself all day every day. Even when I’m at work or doing something else, it’s still bouncing around in the back of my mind. Not that I’m about to do anything about it or anything.

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This is the kind of talk you need to share with your therapist.

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Possessed said:

Sometimes I wonder how long I can really survive thinking of killing myself all day every day. Even when I’m at work or doing something else, it’s still bouncing around in the back of my mind. Not that I’m about to do anything about it or anything.

From my experience, ten more years at least.

Don’t do drugs, unless you’re with me.

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Warbler said:

This is the kind of talk you need to share with your therapist.

I agree but it’s also very welcome that people talk about this any and everywhere. The stigma around the subject particularly with the male of the species is best dispelled by just openly talking about it and actively listening to such testimony.

Do we all know where we all know our local helplines etc ?
Do we have a real world friend we can talk to openly on the subject?

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Yes I have a few female friends I talk to about it. I can’t seem to talk to my male friends about it. It would make a lot of sense if I could but I just never can bring myself to.

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If a male friend or acquaintance sounded really depressed could you ask him about it?

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Absolutely. Just wouldn’t feel comfortable opening up myself.

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Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

This is the kind of talk you need to share with your therapist.

I agree but it’s also very welcome that people talk about this any and everywhere.

I agree.