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Chewielewis said:

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Danfun128 said:

“no home release ever had the subs burned in.” So the VHS releases don’t count then?

Yes they would, but with the OT they didn’t always use the theatrical font. I presume the OP wants to see what was actually on release prints.

Yep. The Old HDTV has burn in that has the wrong font, style and timing, Theres also a new HDTV version with the correct timing, very similar style but not quite, and a few corretions.

Getting a close look at the 35mm is what i need for my TPM restoration (yeah, im doing one too.)

Could you please tell me more about this new HDTV version with correct timing ?

Anyway, Silverwook is right: VHS and VCD had inlaid subtitles, but not with theatrical fonts. Here is a comparison of theatrical subtitles with VHS and VCD :

Z Bootleg (CAM):

Z Bootleg (CAM)

Theatrical restoration (work in progress… I’m also doing one too 😃 ) :

Theatrical restoration

VCD :

VCD

VHS :

VHS

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The VCD is usable for timing and positioning, but shit for figuring out the drop shadow.

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ChainsawAsh said:

The VCD is usable for timing and positioning, but shit for figuring out the drop shadow.

Actually it is not, as you can see on the screenshots. Positioning is not the same (plus a few long sentences are split on 2 lines to fit on P&S VCD).

There is currently no official home release with original theatrical subtitles.

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They didn’t produce the prints directly from digital files. The process was far too slow and far too costly back then to do a direct film-out for each print.
It opened in a shit-tonne of cinemas, it was a l-o-t of prints.

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The Blu Ray screen shots show how plastic the movie looks now. Even little Ani look like he’s a waxwork.

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ZigZig said:

ChainsawAsh said:

The VCD is usable for timing and positioning, but shit for figuring out the drop shadow.

Actually it is not, as you can see on the screenshots. Positioning is not the same (plus a few long sentences are split on 2 lines to fit on P&S VCD).

There is currently no official home release with original theatrical subtitles.

Sorry, I meant the Z bootleg, which I have in VCD format. I didn’t actually notice the other VCD shot up there.

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I remember this opening and playing in virtually all the major screens of the major new Regal flagship theater where I saw so many great openings on their super huge main rear auditoriums. While I can’t remember very much technically since I was only 9 at the time I do remember camping out for tickets and finally managing to get seats for the second day of release and then being blown away by both the quality of the experience and by hearing my first dose of EX with the rear center sound information.
Sadly I saw TFA in that same hall that was turned into an RPX and it was literally as if the original presentation quality never existed.

In short I’m so looking forward to this as there is literally no decent home release (the LD has some definite issues) and the theatrical presentation was so stellar. Heck come to think of it even AOTC had a good presentation and it should have looked like complete garbage due to being such an early digital production. That may be why I saw it at least five times theatrically. Or because I was obsessed with the seismic charge sound effects…😉

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It will be interesting to see if the movie really did look good on film, or if it was just all of our collective want and need for this film to look great.

I do remember the reveal of the underwater city looking absolutely beautiful, and the print being very clean when I say it at the cinema, but I don’t remember much else positively really, except that I very much liked the girl I went to see it with.

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How many minutes into the film is that ‘Slave Scum’ scene?

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Starts at 57mins 17sec

or 1495 feet from the start of reel 3

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poita said:

…except that I very much liked the girl I went to see it with.

I’m guessing you never saw her again. 😄

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Turisu said:

poita said:

…except that I very much liked the girl I went to see it with.

I’m guessing you never saw her again. 😄

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Sadly we are going to have to find another print. The one I have has turned out to be toxic, and damn near killed me. We are yet to ascertain what the substance is on the print, but it is very bad news.

The print is also pretty bad shape.

Here is a sample.

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/b389dfc6c7adc0434cc6e3ad640e857a20181009113440/6b9d705f4177f746d01dcb12ed5b9da120181009113440/7d61a8
I’m really sorry about this, I got completely screwed by the seller, I am on the lookout for a replacement.

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Damn, I hope you are ok! Do you think it was tampered with?

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Oh wow, that’s fucking crazy! Hope you’ve recovered (are recovering?) quickly, poita!

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Bummer! Hope all is well with you poita - have you experienced anything like that before?

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Jeez what the hell is going on around here?!?!

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It is quite likely a toxic mold that infected the print. It stunk like VS but it is a polyester print, so it is confusing, as they do not get VS.
Also, the print turned out to be in Russian.
Moral is, you should always wear a respirator when handling a print if it doesn’t smell right, I should not have assumed it was safe. Some molds are deadly and there is no ‘cure’, I was lucky in this case that it just made me very ill.

Let me know what you guys think of the scan, personally I wouldn’t want to continue with it even if it was safe, the print looks badly worn to me.

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I’m just glad you’re doing alright

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CourtlyHades296 said:

just dispose of the print.

Kill it with fire!!!

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