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The Phantom Menace - a general discussion thread — Page 2

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The thing I liked best about TPM is that it gave us a glimpse into the world before the Empire. It gave us the Jedi before their fall and before the Clone Wars. I think in Qui-gon Jinn we got a quintessential Jedi. For me that makes it win out over AOTC, even if it does have Jar Jar.

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DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

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As someone who grew up with the prequels and can still watch and enjoy them any day of the week, I get why so many young people praise and defend them. If they were your introduction to the franchise, it makes sense that you’d have a nostalgic attachment. I do too, but I also can’t deny the many, many aspects of the films that simply do not work. They all pretty much suck to varying degrees. I wish I could say they didn’t, but they do. Like I said, I still enjoy them, but I can acknowledge that they’re simply not very good movies. And that’s okay.

I feel the same way. The prequels were my introduction to the franchise, and I feel like a lot of the good parts of those movies are being overlooked, but I also agree that they have a lot of bad parts.

I think the tide has officially turned. About ten years ago, you couldn’t find nearly anyone who’d admit to anything good at all about the prequels. Now it’s the opposite, where it seems like many people refuse to accept their poor qualities.

The kids who grew up on the PT are now grown up and expressing their opinion. I alwasys liked TPM and ROTS, even if they have flaws. I love the grandeur of the Old Republic the reveal. They also reveal its problems.

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I don’t think the idea that if you grew up with them they’re still enjoyable is true at all. I used to watch all kinds of total rubbish as a teenager. The great thing about growing up is you can develop your own tastes and reflect on things with 20/20 hindsight. Some things just don’t hold up, others can be appreciated more. The reality is the PT is more well known as a series of memes than anything of note, and a lot of internet blogs trying to suggest otherwise are highly suspicious. But what else is new.

Yub Nub for life

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There is something to be said for seeing it from the other side, that’s not a bad way to behave especially if you’re giving something an honest second chance. I think a lot has to be said also for the influence of just the amount of behind the scenes there are for the prequels, a lot of the craftsmanship in its fine detail and thoughtful consideration gets to shine isolated from the whole.

“The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.” - DV

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I’ve grown up with several movies (not just Star Wars) over my time and to this day, I still watch them. They can never get boring no matter how many times I watch it. If you love so Star Wars so much, then you wouldn’t particularly dislike a Star Wars movie. The only reason I don’t praise Disney’s Installment to the Star Wars universe is because I grew up into a different generation of Star Wars. Where life was fun and no criticism was made. But in saying that, I can still watch the Disney’s trilogy even though I dislike it. You enjoy a movie more if it’s a movie you hate. Every movie has it faults.

I am fond with anything that’s got to do with Star Wars. But, I have particular interest in Red label soundtracks on CD for the OT and White label (Promo) soundtracks on Lp for the OT. I also interest in TPM home video releases.

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Now please, no more negative talk. This was meant to be an enjoyable discussion referring to TPM. I’m happy to hear you dislikes or approvals about the film, but there need in starting an argument because we disagree with a statement.

I am fond with anything that’s got to do with Star Wars. But, I have particular interest in Red label soundtracks on CD for the OT and White label (Promo) soundtracks on Lp for the OT. I also interest in TPM home video releases.

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Mocata said:

The reality is the PT is more well known as a series of memes than anything of note, and a lot of internet blogs trying to suggest otherwise are highly suspicious. But what else is new.

What’s so suspicious about people liking the prequels? The idea going around that people only like the prequels because of the memes is completely ridiculous. It’s just the natural result in a change of perspective. The old guard of the Star Wars fandom naturally dismisses the prequels, since their perspective on Star Wars is so heavily influenced by the OT. But the people who grew up with the prequels accept the visual style of those movies, which makes it easier for them to see both the good and the bad of those movies. The discussions over whether a Star Wars movie “feels like Star Wars” are completely subjective, since everyone’s definition of Star Wars is different.

My preferred saga experience:
TPM/AOTC/ROTS (Hal 9000 edits), ANH/ESB/ROTJ (Despecialized), The Mandalorian.
May the midichlorians be with you.

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RUKUSBUILD3 said:

TPM introduced us to the first interactive CGI character

Actually, Casper was the first interactive CGI character…

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Thanks for the correction.

I am fond with anything that’s got to do with Star Wars. But, I have particular interest in Red label soundtracks on CD for the OT and White label (Promo) soundtracks on Lp for the OT. I also interest in TPM home video releases.