The Phantom Menace Cinema DTS Audio Track (Now Available in DTS-HD) (Released)

With a few Phantom Menace projects popping up lately (and my own that I’ve been throwing together) I thought it was about time that the Cinema DTS CD isos that Jetrell Fo had released a while back finally get some love and attention and see the light of day.

With that goal in mind, I set about ripping the audio to an editable format.

I’ve long been rather unhappy with winamp for audio tasks (which is the only way I’d found previously to decode the discs), so I set out to find a different way.

Luckily, there is a plugin for foobar2000 that not only decodes the 5 channels present on the disc, but also simulates the theater system in generating an lfe track.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvdadecoder/files/foo_input_apt-x100/

Using foobars quick convert to wav, I loaded the resulting file into audition. To convert cinema 24 fps to home theater 23.976 fps, I sped it up to 100.1%. Then found the individual track split points, resplit the file and matched them up where the waveforms were identical. <span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>Using a mono mixdown of Adywan’s restoration ac3 as a guide, I found the track start point and endpoint.</span>

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<span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>With that said, I have released 2 cuts of this.</span>

<span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>The first is my initial lossless foobar merger wav with Ady’s ac3 to make your own.</span>

<span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>The second is an MKV with my initial workprint DTS attached to Ady’s reconstruction so that you can hear it when matched with the video.</span>

<span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>My third and probably final release will be out today - it will include my final sync as a 1509 kbps DTS file and a 640 kbps AC3. This should be perfectly adequate as the initial Cinema DTS was 882 kbps.</span>

<span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>A big thanks to Jetrell Fo for the initial files and to Adywan for giving us an amazing reconstruction.</span>

Thoughts and comments appreciated. All of my edits are release through torrent.

My ears might be tricking me. But it almost seems some of the nemoidian lines are different, better articulated takes.

Excuse my ignorance, but how does this rank up to the Blu-ray DTS track (despite being the theatrical cut, of course)?

Bluray is lossless, with a plain dts core that is effectively double the bitrate of the cinema track. However the dvd mix was very poor and the Bluray was completely re mixed which pushed it even further from the original mix, despite the fact that it is rather brilliant.

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I had a major facepalm moment on this. The ac3 and dts files i releases were 44.1khz... Which, while representative of the original sampling frequency, is not compliant with dvd or bluray specs. As such, i will release one more torrent of this. However, it will take a couple days because i believe i need to do the 48khz conversion prior to the the speed conversion and aligning to retain as much of the original audio as possible. I may even compile my master track at 64 bit 192khz for maximum retention, which the lossy files will then be generated from. However I fear this may be too much and introduce anomalies. Anyone have any suggestions?

Would you please release this with Adywan's Reconstruction in an MKV since myspleen doesn't have it?

I'd also like to know from somebody who has it if schorman's Laserdisc Audio of the Japanese Laserdisc (5.1 and stereo) will sync to Adywan.

Funny, I recently downloaded an "Adywans Theatrical Phantom Menace with Cinema DTS.mkv" from Myspleen. I would know because of their "3 days worth of seeding or bust" policy.

Danfun128 said:

Funny, I recently downloaded an "Adywans Theatrical Phantom Menace with Cinema DTS.mkv" from Myspleen. I would know because of their "3 days worth of seeding or bust" policy.

 Oh yeah I forgot that he put out the rough sync with that.

Now if only somebody would upload his ESB 1080p '97 SE Reconstruction.

Alright the corrected 48khz release should be hitting the web soon.

I will say that unless you are intending to watch/release on a disc format, the 44.1khz files are fine and are technically truer to the original source.

However, due to some friends that have far deeper pockets to fill their PCs with cool software than I do - I am releasing this as a full DTS-HD track (and a 448kbps AC3 for DVD releases.)

nightstalkerpoet said:

Alright the corrected 48khz release should be hitting the web soon.

I will say that unless you are intending to watch/release on a disc format, the 44.1khz files are fine and are technically truer to the original source.

However, due to some friends that have far deeper pockets to fill their PCs with cool software than I do - I am releasing this as a full DTS-HD track (and a 448kbps AC3 for DVD releases.)

Will you include the Adywan reconstruction with it? I don't want to have to download two torrents if I don't have to because of ratio BS (even if it is minute).

If someone makes a corrected release with adywans reconstruction, can they please make the subtitle format something like srt. VLC doesn't like the mkv's dvd subtitles.

Jetrell Fo said:

clutchins said:

nightstalkerpoet said:

Alright the corrected 48khz release should be hitting the web soon.

I will say that unless you are intending to watch/release on a disc format, the 44.1khz files are fine and are technically truer to the original source.

However, due to some friends that have far deeper pockets to fill their PCs with cool software than I do - I am releasing this as a full DTS-HD track (and a 448kbps AC3 for DVD releases.)

Will you include the Adywan reconstruction with it? I don't want to have to download two torrents if I don't have to because of ratio BS (even if it is minute).

Ratio is part of the deal if you want to torrent.  Why make the uploader work harder when they are the one supplying the goods?

clutchins said:

Now if only somebody would upload his ESB 1080p '97 SE Reconstruction.

As far as I know even Adywan hasn't uploaded this yet because I don't believe he's gotten to it though I could be wrong.

 It's just nice to have everything in one place. But I see your point.

And ESB is on usenet but, back to my previous point, it's easier to have it on myspleen. 

It would be easiest to post it to a public torrent place. Being forced to seed something for 3 days isn't my idea of fun.

Myspleen for now, we'll see moving forward.

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Just jumped through the .dtshd file before uploading it. It sounds friggin STELLAR, both the core and the lossless. It's 24bit/48hz - While the initial file was 16 bit, the speed change and syncing was done at 32. I figured might as well go as high quality with the lossless as I could.

Thank you Jetrell Fo for leading me to something I didn't know that I desperately needed! :D

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If you already have Ady's restoration, it's quite easy to mux together with mkvmerge. Just drop the old mkv into the program, then the new dtshd file.

Just watched a bit of this I don't remember ever hearing Jar Jar say "where is the wrench" that audibly... like ever.