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The People vs George Lucas 2: Electric Boogaloo

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As much as I liked the first one, I don't think we're ready for another one. Short of complaining about the Blu-ray changes, we don't have any evidence of "Disney-fication" of the franchise, beyond the announcements of spinoff movies.

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We might get that evidence once "Rebels" launches. But if the films are great, I won't complain.

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doubleofive said:

As much as I liked the first one, I don't think we're ready for another one. Short of complaining about the Blu-ray changes, we don't have any evidence of "Disney-fication" of the franchise, beyond the announcements of spinoff movies.

 Yeah, I think it would have been best to wait until at least VII.

Depends on how long they plan to collect clips while assembling this.

I just fear it's going to be filled with the misinformed shouting about what they perceive Disney to be doing to the franchise. Lord knows we have enough of that around these parts let alone the rest of the internet.

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I recently got around to watching the first one and honestly enjoyed it quite a bit. It's a hilarious and moving look at just why this franchise matters so much to so many people all over the world.

A second movie could explore things like George's ongoing revision of the story since day one, going right back to the first draft of the script and continuing today with "there is no Episode VII." Maybe they could interview Zombie.

Also, the blu-ray was yet to be released when the first one came out, and now it's been almost three years without so much as a peep as to when (if ever) we'll see the OOT. I'm glad LFL's bs excuse for the GOUT was at least brought up in the first doc, but the layman might not really understand what the problem is. If they were to finish this new doc at 1080p (and presumably they would anyway), they could not only address the third wave of changes made to the films, they could also pretty clearly show the dramatic difference between the blu-ray and the GOUT. Maybe even point out the hilarity of how "they can't even get the SE right" (crushed-out star fields, boosted contrast, wrong colors, etc).

Other things of note since March of 2010:

-The Clone Wars (started in 2008 but I don't think it was brought up in the first one)

-Plinkett's reviews of AOTC and ROTS (The RLM guys made a brief appearance in the first one, but it was probably finished before the now legendary TPM review went up on youtube in December of '09)

-The Senator Theater screening

-TESB being added to the National Film Registry

-Lucas' comment at Celebration Europe about the OOT being too expensive to restore. Not only was it a ludicrous statement, it was also the first time he stopped using his "vision" for the I-VI saga as justification for burying the originals.

-The Phantom Menace 3D

-Red Tails finally getting made

-Spielberg's E.T. getting released on blu-ray sans the 2002 special edition, an interesting counterpoint to Star Wars' current situation.

-the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney after all this talk of George's independence from Hollywood, even though LFL had pretty much been exclusively in the Star Wars and Indiana Jones business since at least the mid-90's (Alien Chronicles and Red Tails are the only other things I can think of in that time). Once again, the "all ighty ollar" seemed to trump everything else.

-Everything that got shelved because of said buyout, like the 3D releases of the other films and, more notably, the long-in-development live action tv series.

-The EU's evolving status, from being the official continuation of the story to having "levels of canon" to now not being canon at all .... except the new stuff ($$$$$).

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I like the picture's Tatooine background, especially the nice blue sky.

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Will there be Special Editions of PvGL?

Yes...It's basically a non-anamorphic teal coloured screen with the sound channels flipped around.

 I was thinking more of CGI fan comments that replace some of the real fan comments to better match the director's original vision.

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doubleofive said:

As much as I liked the first one, I don't think we're ready for another one. Short of complaining about the Blu-ray changes, we don't have any evidence of "Disney-fication" of the franchise, beyond the announcements of spinoff movies.

 I agree. And even if this whole "Disney-fication" ultimately happens, Disney will be the one to blame, not George Lucas. 

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Yeah, I think it's time to move on from GL as a topic.

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Unless George Lucas is still exercising some kind of shitty movie mojo over Star Wars, I don't know If I would be interested in seeing this movie.  GL was a terrible person for what he inflicted upon the world, but it is Disney's responsibility to reboot the prequels at this point.   

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There's still plenty of stuff to talk about that didn't come up in the first one, stuff that's now taken on new relevance. The biggest "what might have been" is the original plan, circa 1980, to just keep going with the series and make episodes 7, 8, 9 and so on. Instead, GL decided to just condense all that into a nice, safe ending for the trilogy where Han Solo lives and Leia is Luke's sister. What we could've gotten is a nice series of six films with the same cast, each from a different director, and then an Episode I in the mid-to-late 90's (again, different director). The original 1977 movie should've remained the only Lucas-directed Star Wars movie.

I think a lot of what people don't like about the prequels goes all the way back to the problems with RotJ. My biggest problem with the PT is its execution, namely that it was directed and scripted by Lucas. But the overall story of the PT was always GL's to tell, just as it had been with the OT. In that sense, I don't see much point in rebooting the prequels.

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Rebooting the prequels is a very fanwanky thing to do, not Disney's job, and should indeed be left to fan edits or personal decisions of what is canon. 

It's Disney's job to make a great sequel trilogy that makes up for the prequels, and makes Star Wars (when considering the entirety of it), into "two out of three ain't bad", instead of a minority of great movies sandwiched between 12 hours of bullshit.

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I'm not so keen on rebooting the PT as I am in just having it decanonized. As long as that garbage is considered "real", the Star Wars Universe will never be clean.

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It happened get over it.

If the SE of the hour wasn't so laughably bad and the only currently viewable version and the PT wasn't such a pile none of us would be here.

As Heidegger pointed out, if it ain't broke nobody wants to fix it.

Lucas made Star Wars unforgettable by stamping on it and peeing on the remaining gravelly bits. We want to save her this is why we come back here again and again.

Thank you SE, thank-you Manikin Skywalker with your creepy sex looks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Dp2OfIT_M

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Will there be Special Editions of PvGL?

 

I can do a version with my whole interview put back in it. Cause we all agree that 20 seconds of TMBTM is not enough! (and don't you dare saying "that's what she said!")

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TMBTM said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Will there be Special Editions of PvGL?

 

I can do a version with my whole interview put back in it. Cause we all agree that 20 seconds of TMBTM is not enough! (and don't you dare saying "that's what she said!")

Which interview is you?

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I didn't like the first one, can't imagine what a second one would be about. It made me embarrased to be a fan.

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Fang Zei said:


TMBTM said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Will there be Special Editions of PvGL?

I can do a version with my whole interview put back in it. Cause we all agree that 20 seconds of TMBTM is not enough! (and don't you dare saying "that's what she said!")
Which interview is you?
The one where the bottom of the screen says "TMBTM". I cheered when he showed up.

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doubleofive said:

Fang Zei said:


TMBTM said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Will there be Special Editions of PvGL?

I can do a version with my whole interview put back in it. Cause we all agree that 20 seconds of TMBTM is not enough! (and don't you dare saying "that's what she said!")
Which interview is you?

The one where the bottom of the screen says "TMBTM". I cheered when he showed up.

Haha, well I don't remember if they wrote TMBTM or The Man Behind The Mask though. I should rewatch the whole thing for those few seconds of "glory" about my very first fanedit (the silent star wars fanedit)

I had some Emails with Alexander O.Phillipe, the director back then. At some point he wanted to make a doc about fanedits. I guess I can say it by now since it appears not to be the case anymore. It was years ago and he'll forgive me if he ever reads this post! (he actualy posted at fanedit.org and maybe here too as far as I remember) Maybe he'll bring back this idea one day or another.

Not sure about this new People vs Lucas doc though because the goal don't seems as clear as the previous and it maybe feels like surfing on the Star Wars calendar a bit too much. But the punchline "This time we shoot first!" is pretty fun and I'll be happy to watch it when it's released.

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Yeah, I actually re-watched it earlier today and it hit me once I saw The Man Behind The Mask. I'll have to get ahold of that silent version sometime, looks cool!

Watching the documentary again, I realize now that the situation with the original negative is actually explained pretty thoroughly, although the whole OOT on video thing still might not be clear to the layman. From what's presented in the movie, the uninformed person might go "I don't get it, they released the original version on dvd. What's everyone complaining about?"