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The Original Trilogy Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 23

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Nowadays if you released ANH a lot of crusty nerds would complain up and down about his piloting ability coming out of nowhere. But the truth is sometimes those details don’t need to be explained in exhausting detail. People can roll with a lot if a film is easy and breezy.

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CaptainFaraday said:

ANH has a lot of “show, don’t tell” problems in regards to Luke’s piloting ability up until the trench run. I’m surprised nobody’s rendered a short sequence of the T16 Skyhopper zooming around Beggar’s Canyon to insert immediately before the theatrical introduction to Luke.

You’re not the first one to suggest this. The mockup here is to brief, but it could give you guys some ideas.

Nowadays if you released ANH a lot of crusty nerds would complain up and down about his piloting ability coming out of nowhere. But the truth is sometimes those details don’t need to be explained in exhausting detail. People can roll with a lot if a film is easy and breezy.

Technically not the same film, but pretty close.

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There are existing clips from old episodes of Blue Peter or whatever where the kids DID question Luke’s piloting ability and brought it up in the context of a semi common topic of criticism at the time. I’ve brought up the idea of Luke going through beggar’s canyon in an old thread before, I think it’s something that shows up in one of the games as well. I agree with everyone else though it’s better to have the result at the end, if Star Wars were a mini series or even just a longer movie maybe it would make sense, but as is it would mess with the pace and tension release too much, plus you don’t want to tip the hint too hard and make it overly traditional, makes the movie too predictable and feels like going through the motions, especially when you pair the beginning action with the end.

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but as is it would mess with the pace and tension release too much

You mean provide a welcome break from the snail’s pace of the Tatooine section?

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Anakin Starkiller said:

but as is it would mess with the pace and tension release too much

You mean provide a welcome break from the snail’s pace of the Tatooine section?

I agree putting in some kind of Luke-flying-in-Beggars-Canyon sequence could break up the slog of the Tatooine droid section. Maybe go from the Tantive IV section to Luke flying, then have that end with him flying home & have the T16 really small in the sky as you pan down to the escape pod with the droids walking away? Or move it later and have it pan down to the stormtroopers inspecting the crash site?

On the other hand, I feel that slog as is helps maintain the dynamic of the droids as the central POV characters, which makes the switch to farmboy hero’s journey a little nicer. YMMV.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

but as is it would mess with the pace and tension release too much

You mean provide a welcome break from the snail’s pace of the Tatooine section?

Maybe for everyone who is used to Star Wars that’s how Tatooine feels, as a kid I loved the mystery of the barren planet with the droids before meeting Luke. And yes if there was an exciting chase through a tight winding cavern in the beginning of the movie it would cause diminishing returns by the end of the movie, the sequence the entire story is building up to.

GMatias said:

Maybe go from the Tantive IV section to Luke flying, then have that end with him flying home & have the T16 really small in the sky as you pan down to the escape pod with the droids walking away? Or move it later and have it pan down to the stormtroopers inspecting the crash site?

This is a fun idea, reminds me of the cut scene of Luke looking up at the action from the beginning.

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act on instinct said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

but as is it would mess with the pace and tension release too much

You mean provide a welcome break from the snail’s pace of the Tatooine section?

Maybe for everyone who is used to Star Wars that’s how Tatooine feels, as a kid I loved the mystery of the barren planet with the droids before meeting Luke. And yes if there was an exciting chase through a tight winding cavern in the beginning of the movie it would cause diminishing returns by the end of the movie, the sequence the entire story is building up to.

100% agree. The theatrical version of ANH has damn-near perfect editing, and I think messing with the pacing like that would be for the worse. But it might be a pretty interesting addition to something like an extended version. A bunch of scenes added for someone who’s already fallen in love with the movie.

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SparkySywer said:

act on instinct said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

but as is it would mess with the pace and tension release too much

You mean provide a welcome break from the snail’s pace of the Tatooine section?

Maybe for everyone who is used to Star Wars that’s how Tatooine feels, as a kid I loved the mystery of the barren planet with the droids before meeting Luke. And yes if there was an exciting chase through a tight winding cavern in the beginning of the movie it would cause diminishing returns by the end of the movie, the sequence the entire story is building up to.

100% agree. The theatrical version of ANH has damn-near perfect editing, and I think messing with the pacing like that would be for the worse. But it might be a pretty interesting addition to something like an extended version. A bunch of scenes added for someone who’s already fallen in love with the movie.

That’s exactly how I feel, too. The Despecialised Editions will always be my personal definitive version of the OT, but I love having different versions with different visions to enjoy in parallel.

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act on instinct said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

but as is it would mess with the pace and tension release too much

You mean provide a welcome break from the snail’s pace of the Tatooine section?

Maybe for everyone who is used to Star Wars that’s how Tatooine feels, as a kid I loved the mystery of the barren planet with the droids before meeting Luke. And yes if there was an exciting chase through a tight winding cavern in the beginning of the movie it would cause diminishing returns by the end of the movie, the sequence the entire story is building up to.

I completely agree. I still love the down time with them for the reasons that it also is very much all visual storytelling and a good quieter part of the narrative after a strong action set piece on the Tantive IV. It gives us some time to process what we’ve seen so far before the story starts picking up again when we meet Luke. You need those quieter moments to contrast the bigger ones to get to know your characters. That’s partly why I think the down time in The Phantom Menace is so critical before the podrace. It gives us a chance to get to know Anakin as a person before he does something extraordinary.

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