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The Original Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 6

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You’d also need someone to dub the Emperor for the Jerjerrod scenes. And they need a whole new sound mix on top of visual work.

a trolling bantha

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Isn’t there McDiarmid audio for that scene in the Rinzler ebook?

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4throck said:

The main problem with the ground sequence is the disconnect with the space battle. The ground team should be in radio contact with the rebel fleet and tell them that the shield is still up.

If you care about matching the logic of Rogue One, the shield would block communication. Even without Rogue One, it does make sense.

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After watching that weird ‘Scene 38 Reimagined Clip’, I noticed some things about the original sequence that bothered me.

Trying to bring this closer to modern ‘Disney’ visual standards.

https://streamable.com/oseo6

Added proper star-field that reacts to focus shift and a stronger glow to the hanger opening.

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/E091NNNU

Added detailing to the previously pitch-black background wall and enhanced ground lighting.

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Man, it’s interesting how much of a difference little details like those make! I really feel like this method could do wonders to just add another layer of detail to the OT, especially for ROTJ I think.

EDIT: To add on to that thought, I think changes like these, and what Ady, Petro, and others are doing, help bring the OT visually more in like with the rest of the Saga. To me, having an edition of these films that brings the OT more visually in-line with the PT & ST, but also making changes that make the PT & ST more in line with the OT as well. Basically, the end goal being that the whole Saga will visually/aesthetically be more in-sync. I think that would be great!

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I’ve been messing around in AE.

I feel like we’re likely to see Hayden or Ewan as a ghost in IX so I wanted that reflected in VI, but I dislike the creepy footage of Hayden that Lucas used for the Special Edition. My idea was that the two ghosts are elderly men in the first shot of the ghosts (just like the OOT) - they appear to Luke as he knew them. But then in the second shot, as they watch the rebels celebrate from afar, I felt it would be nice to see them as the young heroes of the Clone Wars they once were (especially if they do appear in TROS as I suspect). Based on Ewan and Alec’s voices being used in TFA, and Luke force projecting his younger self in TLJ, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to imagine force ghosts can appear however they wish to.

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Well I certainly approve of it…but yeah, I’m probably the exception. The site is called OT.com for a reason.

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sade1212 said:

I feel like we’re likely to see Hayden or Ewan as a ghost in IX so I wanted that reflected in VI, but I dislike the creepy footage of Hayden that Lucas used for the Special Edition. My idea was that the two ghosts are elderly men in the first shot of the ghosts (just like the OOT) - they appear to Luke as he knew them. But then in the second shot, as they watch the rebels celebrate from afar, I felt it would be nice to see them as the young heroes of the Clone Wars they once were (especially if they do appear in TROS as I suspect). Based on Ewan and Alec’s voices being used in TFA, and Luke force projecting his younger self in TLJ, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to imagine force ghosts can appear however they wish to.

This is exactly how I’ve always wanted the ghost scene to be. My thoughts included a simple fade from Sebastian to Hayden after Luke turns away with Leia (to get the best of both worlds), but that Ewan actually doesn’t look god awful like most I’ve seen. Would love to see Ewan’s accomplished in motion.

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Lesser said:
Would love to see Ewan’s accomplished in motion.

Oh right, it actually is animated.
https://youtu.be/lWBCVRnt1TA

Unfortunately when I tried fading the faces it drew attention to how they don’t actually line up with the originals, and how Ewan is lit from the opposite side (I could probably find footage of him turning his head with lighting form the right if I looked, and looking a bit more happy and proud). I’ll continue to work on it though.

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The sound is fine, don’t worry. The asteroids could use a slight lighting touch-up but otherwise very good.

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This feels like it is straight out of Blade-Runner 😉

Do you have an idea on how to integrate it in a fan edit?

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paja said:

Peter Pan said:

Do you have an idea on how to integrate it in a fan edit?

At the moment, not really.

It could be Darth Jar Jar‘s palace in Otoh Gunga (mesa boom bad Sith)

Do we know on which planet the Deathstar wreck will be in TROS?
Maybe it could have been this city?

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Been messing around with ANH (lightsabers, millennium falcon’s interiors, Death Star, etc.)
This one still needs work, but I think it’s quite cool.

https://vimeo.com/347101658
password: fanedit

Italian faneditor.
EDITS LIST:

  1. Chronological Revenge of the Sith: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/CHRONOLOGICAL-REVENGE-OF-THE-SITH-RELEASED/id/60388
  2. CHOSEN ONE - A Star Wars Story: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/THE-CHOSEN-ONE-A-STAR-WARS-STORY-RELEASED/id/60721
  3. SHADOW OF THE PAST (A Phantom menace edit): https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SHADOW-OF-THE-PAST-A-Phantom-Menace-edit/id/65473
  4. KEEPERS OF THE PEACE (Attack of the Clones edit): https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/KEEPERS-OF-THE-PEACE-Attack-of-the-Clones-edit/id/66617/page/1#1274835

During free time I follow politics, I’m an euroskeptic and I have a YouTube channel for trailer and tributes.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsWtMZobefiq04JNuS2jFLQ?view_as=subscriber

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Interesting! Perhaps you can incorporate some fan movie footage and show them searching the abandoned base ? I’ve seen some good fan movies about Storm Troopers that might work here.

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4throck said:

Interesting! Perhaps you can incorporate some fan movie footage and show them searching the abandoned base ? I’ve seen some good fan movies about Storm Troopers that might work here.

Do you have anything in mind? I usually dislike fan movie additions, but if the cinematography is quite similar I could surely add it.

Italian faneditor.
EDITS LIST:

  1. Chronological Revenge of the Sith: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/CHRONOLOGICAL-REVENGE-OF-THE-SITH-RELEASED/id/60388
  2. CHOSEN ONE - A Star Wars Story: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/THE-CHOSEN-ONE-A-STAR-WARS-STORY-RELEASED/id/60721
  3. SHADOW OF THE PAST (A Phantom menace edit): https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SHADOW-OF-THE-PAST-A-Phantom-Menace-edit/id/65473
  4. KEEPERS OF THE PEACE (Attack of the Clones edit): https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/KEEPERS-OF-THE-PEACE-Attack-of-the-Clones-edit/id/66617/page/1#1274835

During free time I follow politics, I’m an euroskeptic and I have a YouTube channel for trailer and tributes.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsWtMZobefiq04JNuS2jFLQ?view_as=subscriber

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4throck said:

Yes, that is a problem. But perhaps you can crop or stabilize some scenes from these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYhrzL9tsUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IvGpStmbOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRQWXh94N6o

Thinking about some closeups of storm troopers patrolling and looking, just a few seconds at most.
Then you cut to the hologram.

I think this is at least acceptable.
https://vimeo.com/347608775
password: fanedit

If you want, tell me what you think about it 😉

Italian faneditor.
EDITS LIST:

  1. Chronological Revenge of the Sith: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/CHRONOLOGICAL-REVENGE-OF-THE-SITH-RELEASED/id/60388
  2. CHOSEN ONE - A Star Wars Story: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/THE-CHOSEN-ONE-A-STAR-WARS-STORY-RELEASED/id/60721
  3. SHADOW OF THE PAST (A Phantom menace edit): https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SHADOW-OF-THE-PAST-A-Phantom-Menace-edit/id/65473
  4. KEEPERS OF THE PEACE (Attack of the Clones edit): https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/KEEPERS-OF-THE-PEACE-Attack-of-the-Clones-edit/id/66617/page/1#1274835

During free time I follow politics, I’m an euroskeptic and I have a YouTube channel for trailer and tributes.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsWtMZobefiq04JNuS2jFLQ?view_as=subscriber

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Yes, it works 😃

But I’d make it shorter, this should be like the troopers searching Tatooine’s desert. Just a few seconds.

You can also place a Destroyer in orbit of the planet (so we understand where the transmission is coming from), and intercut the stormtroopers with the hologram (break the sentences on “rebel base”).
Breaking the sentences makes it look as if the communication was longer and we are only seeing the important bits, it becomes more dynamic.

But it’s fine as it is, just sharing ideas 😃