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Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.
Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.
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Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Also, did anyone feel that whole "Superman II" vibe during the opening sequence, I mean it was spot on with how Superman II started.
Also, did anyone feel that whole "Superman II" vibe during the opening sequence, I mean it was spot on with how Superman II started.
Now that you mention it...
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I don't guess I've ever really told what I thought of the movie.. Er.. I didn't hate it, but it wasn't as good as it should have been..
What worked:
-The Harry Osborne plot. They resolved it in a way that was respectful to the character and yet not too 'happy' and ending for a guy like that.
-The effects shots, especialy the scene where Sandman first pulls himself together. The music in that scene was brilliant too.
-Emo Peter's riduculously over-the-top antics. Yeah, they were absurd but that's what made them funny.
-Gwen Stacy. She had no valid reason to exist in this movie and yet I enjoyed watching her on screen more than I did Mary Jane.
-Eddie Brock; his character arc was well-handled when it could have easily been a total mess.
-J. Jonah Jameson.
-Venom looked great.
What didn't:
-Mary-Jane came across as jealous and whiny. It was her own dang fault she didn't tell Peter about being fired, not Peter's.
-Venom's voice. Why they didn't get a seperate voice actor to play Venom is beyond me, because as it is Venom souned so stupid.
-STUPID RANDOM CAMEO CHILDREN. I don't want a climactic final battle interrupted to have some moron kids shout "AWESOME! WICKED COOL!"
-The resolution to Sandman's arc. The fact that Peter forgave him for the death of Uncle Ben isn't what bothered me... it's the fact that it acted as though Ben's death was Flint Marko's ONLY crime. Earlier in the film he'd robbed, assualted, and almost killed a couple of police officers and conspired with Venom to kidnap Mary Jane and almost murder Spiderman. And they let him fly off into the sunrise as though 'not meaning to' kill Uncle Ben absolves him of all his other crimes. They should have had Spiderman offer to help his daughter if he turned himself in or something. As it is, it makes Peter look like an idiot.
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1. The movie is gouge out my own eyes boring at times. Especially in the middle.
2. I agree with Chaltab, too many kids making stupid comments.
3. Waaaay too convenient that Venom landed 20 feet away from Peter.
4. God, if someone at the college level did what those idiots in the back of Peter did they'd: a.) Get their asses beat b.) Get kicked out of class
5. Gwenn Stacy was nice to look at but annoying.
6. The whole venom storyline got shortchanged.
7. Venom did not look mean enough at times (though I thought Topher Grace played it well).
8. Emo Peter went on too long. I'd rather get waterboarded than go through that jazz club scene again.
9. The "reporter" at the end just, again, makes me want to rip my ears off. Her accent was terrible. Sounded like Jude Law, which means she sounds like she just crawled out of a gutter in the rankest part of downtown London.
10. No exposition about Venom or why the sound waves work. Comics fans know why, but the average person doesn't.
11. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
12. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
13. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
14. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
15. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
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* See Portman, Natelie in The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, V for Vendetta. As well as other crappy female leads in countless other modern films.
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As for Kirsten Dunst, I agree. I don't know what was wrong with her or why Sam Raimi didn't demand more in this film.
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Originally posted by: JediSage
OK, I saw it again last night, and I've modified my opinion on this.
1. The movie is gouge out my own eyes boring at times. Especially in the middle.
2. I agree with Chaltab, too many kids making stupid comments.
3. Waaaay too convenient that Venom landed 20 feet away from Peter.
4. God, if someone at the college level did what those idiots in the back of Peter did they'd: a.) Get their asses beat b.) Get kicked out of class
5. Gwenn Stacy was nice to look at but annoying.
6. The whole venom storyline got shortchanged.
7. Venom did not look mean enough at times (though I thought Topher Grace played it well).
8. Emo Peter went on too long. I'd rather get waterboarded than go through that jazz club scene again.
9. The "reporter" at the end just, again, makes me want to rip my ears off. Her accent was terrible. Sounded like Jude Law, which means she sounds like she just crawled out of a gutter in the rankest part of downtown London.
10. No exposition about Venom or why the sound waves work. Comics fans know why, but the average person doesn't.
11. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
12. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
13. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
14. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
15. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
OK, I saw it again last night, and I've modified my opinion on this.
1. The movie is gouge out my own eyes boring at times. Especially in the middle.
2. I agree with Chaltab, too many kids making stupid comments.
3. Waaaay too convenient that Venom landed 20 feet away from Peter.
4. God, if someone at the college level did what those idiots in the back of Peter did they'd: a.) Get their asses beat b.) Get kicked out of class
5. Gwenn Stacy was nice to look at but annoying.
6. The whole venom storyline got shortchanged.
7. Venom did not look mean enough at times (though I thought Topher Grace played it well).
8. Emo Peter went on too long. I'd rather get waterboarded than go through that jazz club scene again.
9. The "reporter" at the end just, again, makes me want to rip my ears off. Her accent was terrible. Sounded like Jude Law, which means she sounds like she just crawled out of a gutter in the rankest part of downtown London.
10. No exposition about Venom or why the sound waves work. Comics fans know why, but the average person doesn't.
11. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
12. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
13. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
14. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
15. Kirsten Dunst's acting.
Now that you mention it, I do remember sitting in the theater and thinking how unconvincing she was. I will even go out on a limb and say that I don't think she all that attractive neither, my wife disagrees with me, but I still think she is sort of a on the bottom level of being okay. But that's just me a guess, because lots of guys fawn over her.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Natalie Portman wasn't bad in V for Vendetta, she just wasn't good at faking a British accent.
As for Kirsten Dunst, I agree. I don't know what was wrong with her or why Sam Raimi didn't demand more in this film.
Natalie Portman wasn't bad in V for Vendetta, she just wasn't good at faking a British accent.
As for Kirsten Dunst, I agree. I don't know what was wrong with her or why Sam Raimi didn't demand more in this film.
I think Portman was kind of stiff in V For Vendetta, and that was at least partly because of her trying to hold the British accent, which always made it sound like she was sighing or out of breath. Why didn't they just cast a British actress? I have no idea.
I think Portman and Dunst have a problem in common with lots of young actresses these days: they all sound like a bunch of 7 year olds, very flat, very lightweight voices. Makes them less appealing and makes their performances seem extra stilted.
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I don't think dunst is attractive either. She can be, but, especially in the Spider-man moives, they seem to capture her bad side. She always comes off looking kind of sick and skeletal. I think she looked a bit better in this one, but in the second one she looked terrible. The first one, she looked okay. So yeah, they could have done a lot better in casting...
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Saw 3 on opening night.
It fucking blew.
Not a good movie.
Heads up, here's the official Dinkins Good/Bad Spiderman 3 breakdown:
The Bad:
Kirsten Dunst's singing. Fucking terrible.
Peter Parker's ridiculous symbiote haircut.
Peter Parker's ridiculous symbiote behavior.
Peter Parker's jazz piano sequence (what the fuck.) Don't stop the jazz hands!
Peter Parker's music video "Point 'n shoot the ladies" sequence.
The fact that the above took up more screen time than all of Venom's appearances combined.
The Goblin's butler. I don't use this very often but "lolz." That segment seemed like a 4th grader's submission as to how to "Make the Goblin a 'good guy'." Didn't he breathe in the crazy evil fart gas? Gimme a break and I'll throw a "nigga please" in there for good measure.
Venom was thin and emaciated looking. Hardly impressive.
Venom's CG. The mouth was so terribly animated when the "costume" spoke.
Every fight scene in the movie was CG, and all organic matter was animated unconvincingly and was rubbery/soft looking. The Goblin using his dumb flying surfboard to shoot fire at a 6 story Sandman, yahahaha. Go fuck yourself.
The movie was 90% CG, and 85% of it blew. Watching this movie 5 or ten years from now (why anyone would do that I have no idea) is going to seem like Special Effect Amateur hour.
The dialogue was consistently awkward - shitloads of lines felt horrendously out of place.
The villains' plotlines were sloppily woven together. Monkeys wrote the script, apparently. Listen, maybe concentrating on one villain and really fleshing out his storyline would've been a better idea, two at most. The villains in this movie were underdeveloped and the conflicts they caused were resolved terribly. They tried to cram way, way too much bullshit into the script, like those fat Hispanic sluts that have giant thighs and huge fat asses yet are somehow under the delusion that they look great in jeans made for good looking girls. Way too much sausage, way too little casing.
Many more.
The Good:
Bruce Campbell's restaurant cameo.
The Willem Dafoe painting, just because I think it would make for an interesting conversation piece hanging in my place.
That's about it.
The Ugly:
We got there late so we had to sit in the front row, the very fucking front row, so the entire time I was loaded and stoned out of my mind while bending my neck so I could see this towering, distorted shitheap of a movie. My time would've been better spent staring at the floor, and it would've been easier on my spine, too.
I had to piss wicked bad for the last 40 minutes of the movie.
The Verdict:
F-
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Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
Dug the first two.
Saw 3 on opening night.
It fucking blew.
Not a good movie.
Heads up, here's the official Dinkins Good/Bad Spiderman 3 breakdown:
The Bad:
Kirsten Dunst's singing. Fucking terrible.
Peter Parker's ridiculous symbiote haircut.
Peter Parker's ridiculous symbiote behavior.
Peter Parker's jazz piano sequence (what the fuck.) Don't stop the jazz hands!
Peter Parker's music video "Point 'n shoot the ladies" sequence.
The fact that the above took up more screen time than all of Venom's appearances combined.
The Goblin's butler. I don't use this very often but "lolz." That segment seemed like a 4th grader's submission as to how to "Make the Goblin a 'good guy'." Didn't he breathe in the crazy evil fart gas? Gimme a break and I'll throw a "nigga please" in there for good measure.
Venom was thin and emaciated looking. Hardly impressive.
Venom's CG. The mouth was so terribly animated when the "costume" spoke.
Every fight scene in the movie was CG, and all organic matter was animated unconvincingly and was rubbery/soft looking. The Goblin using his dumb flying surfboard to shoot fire at a 6 story Sandman, yahahaha. Go fuck yourself.
The movie was 90% CG, and 85% of it blew. Watching this movie 5 or ten years from now (why anyone would do that I have no idea) is going to seem like Special Effect Amateur hour.
The dialogue was consistently awkward - shitloads of lines felt horrendously out of place.
The villains' plotlines were sloppily woven together. Monkeys wrote the script, apparently. Listen, maybe concentrating on one villain and really fleshing out his storyline would've been a better idea, two at most. The villains in this movie were underdeveloped and the conflicts they caused were resolved terribly. They tried to cram way, way too much bullshit into the script, like those fat Hispanic sluts that have giant thighs and huge fat asses yet are somehow under the delusion that they look great in jeans made for good looking girls. Way too much sausage, way too little casing.
Many more.
The Good:
Bruce Campbell's restaurant cameo.
The Willem Dafoe painting, just because I think it would make for an interesting conversation piece hanging in my place.
That's about it.
The Ugly:
We got there late so we had to sit in the front row, the very fucking front row, so the entire time I was loaded and stoned out of my mind while bending my neck so I could see this towering, distorted shitheap of a movie. My time would've been better spent staring at the floor, and it would've been easier on my spine, too.
I had to piss wicked bad for the last 40 minutes of the movie.
The Verdict:
F-
Dug the first two.
Saw 3 on opening night.
It fucking blew.
Not a good movie.
Heads up, here's the official Dinkins Good/Bad Spiderman 3 breakdown:
The Bad:
Kirsten Dunst's singing. Fucking terrible.
Peter Parker's ridiculous symbiote haircut.
Peter Parker's ridiculous symbiote behavior.
Peter Parker's jazz piano sequence (what the fuck.) Don't stop the jazz hands!
Peter Parker's music video "Point 'n shoot the ladies" sequence.
The fact that the above took up more screen time than all of Venom's appearances combined.
The Goblin's butler. I don't use this very often but "lolz." That segment seemed like a 4th grader's submission as to how to "Make the Goblin a 'good guy'." Didn't he breathe in the crazy evil fart gas? Gimme a break and I'll throw a "nigga please" in there for good measure.
Venom was thin and emaciated looking. Hardly impressive.
Venom's CG. The mouth was so terribly animated when the "costume" spoke.
Every fight scene in the movie was CG, and all organic matter was animated unconvincingly and was rubbery/soft looking. The Goblin using his dumb flying surfboard to shoot fire at a 6 story Sandman, yahahaha. Go fuck yourself.
The movie was 90% CG, and 85% of it blew. Watching this movie 5 or ten years from now (why anyone would do that I have no idea) is going to seem like Special Effect Amateur hour.
The dialogue was consistently awkward - shitloads of lines felt horrendously out of place.
The villains' plotlines were sloppily woven together. Monkeys wrote the script, apparently. Listen, maybe concentrating on one villain and really fleshing out his storyline would've been a better idea, two at most. The villains in this movie were underdeveloped and the conflicts they caused were resolved terribly. They tried to cram way, way too much bullshit into the script, like those fat Hispanic sluts that have giant thighs and huge fat asses yet are somehow under the delusion that they look great in jeans made for good looking girls. Way too much sausage, way too little casing.
Many more.
The Good:
Bruce Campbell's restaurant cameo.
The Willem Dafoe painting, just because I think it would make for an interesting conversation piece hanging in my place.
That's about it.
The Ugly:
We got there late so we had to sit in the front row, the very fucking front row, so the entire time I was loaded and stoned out of my mind while bending my neck so I could see this towering, distorted shitheap of a movie. My time would've been better spent staring at the floor, and it would've been easier on my spine, too.
I had to piss wicked bad for the last 40 minutes of the movie.
The Verdict:
F-
I sense much anger in this one.
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Actually I have no idea how much money you have but listen, I use that expression every fucking chance I get.
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Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
You have more dollars than sense.
Actually I have no idea how much money you have but listen, I use that expression every fucking chance I get.
You have more dollars than sense.
Actually I have no idea how much money you have but listen, I use that expression every fucking chance I get.
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Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
The Good:
Bruce Campbell's restaurant cameo.
The Willem Dafoe painting, just because I think it would make for an interesting conversation piece hanging in my place.
That's about it.
The Ugly:
We got there late so we had to sit in the front row, the very fucking front row, so the entire time I was loaded and stoned out of my mind while bending my neck so I could see this towering, distorted shitheap of a movie. My time would've been better spent staring at the floor, and it would've been easier on my spine, too.
I had to piss wicked bad for the last 40 minutes of the movie.
The Good:
Bruce Campbell's restaurant cameo.
The Willem Dafoe painting, just because I think it would make for an interesting conversation piece hanging in my place.
That's about it.
The Ugly:
We got there late so we had to sit in the front row, the very fucking front row, so the entire time I was loaded and stoned out of my mind while bending my neck so I could see this towering, distorted shitheap of a movie. My time would've been better spent staring at the floor, and it would've been easier on my spine, too.
I had to piss wicked bad for the last 40 minutes of the movie.
Yeah, I thought that same thing about the Dafoe painting. That was amazingly life like and would make a great conversation piece. I kept expecting the thing to start telling Harry to kill Spiderman, I was disappointed when they went with the mirror thing instead. Freaking mirror... anyway, a talking painting would have been pretty lame anyway, which means it would have been in sync with the rest of the movie.
Hey, that front row thing happened to me too. The theater I went to see it at is out in the middle of nowhere and rarely fills up, even during the first week. And they had the movie on seven different screens playing every 20 minutes to half an hour, so I hardly expected it to be so packed and ended up getting there a little late. When my friend and I walked in and saw the place packed we just turned around and snuck into the next room (which was almost entirely empty) and just talked for the next half hour. My question is why do they even put seats in the front row? How can you even watch the stupid thing that close to that massive screen. Ouch! I can't imagine anybody enjoying that, I am sure the only time anybody sits there is when the poor saps arrive late and get stuck. They ought to make the seats more fair, or give a huge discount for the people willing to sit in the front row or something. Nothing like paying threw the nose to see a crappy movie, then breaking your neck and burning out your eyes out in the process.
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Needless to say, I had to go back a 2nd time to actually see what happened.
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My thoughts on the Dafoe painting:
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Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
Peter Parker's music video "Point 'n shoot the ladies" sequence.
The fact that the above took up more screen time than all of Venom's appearances combined.
The villains' plotlines were sloppily woven together. Monkeys wrote the script, apparently.
Peter Parker's music video "Point 'n shoot the ladies" sequence.
The fact that the above took up more screen time than all of Venom's appearances combined.
The villains' plotlines were sloppily woven together. Monkeys wrote the script, apparently.
Those points are very true. Venom should not have been treated the way he was.
Hopefully the next Spider-Man movie won't give a shit about matching these films (via the same actors or story lines) and will simply jump right into the cool content and forget about dumbing things down. If I have to see another fucking comic book movie wasting hours on the hero's origin (or a villain's origin for that matter) I'm going to vomit. Those scenes are the main reason I'm beginning to think I might start avoiding comic book movies altogether.
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"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
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And good lord, something needs to be done about that Sandman resolution. Too bad we can't borrow Thomas Haden Church to shoot a scene where he turns himself in.
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
I heard a sound bite the other day that at least Kirsten Dunst is getting tired of Spiderman. Maybe they'll get a new cast of the next one and make a better movie.
I heard a sound bite the other day that at least Kirsten Dunst is getting tired of Spiderman. Maybe they'll get a new cast of the next one and make a better movie.
Well, they put her in practically every freakin' scene of the latest movie. I'd hope so.
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