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You're gay Dinkins, that shit was funny.

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I hear you giggling in your cubicle over your insane overuse of the word gay. Or should I say your cubigay.

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Zion man that link is so gay. I'm not trolling man, this is just who I am. I don't insult anyone or anything, I just point out when things are getting a little gay, that's all.

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Wow. I guess I missed the whole "rift" thing.

What happened, anyway? Or which threads should I read to find out?
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Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
Originally posted by: sean wookie


people vbangle.



People V. Bangle is the Supreme Court case were SeanWookie was found guilty of being a cunt.

Hey just kidding.

No I'm not.


Now THAT'S classic!

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As much as I enjoy shooting the breeze in the OT section, I know very well that the true heart and soul of this site lies in the Preservation sections. It would be pure ignorance to say otherwise.

Sure, the posters in the OT section have racked up the most posts (myself included, of course), but what we talk about is truly unessential to the purpose of this site.
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I'm so gay for ZION, JAY & MOT3R. I just love those guys!
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Originally posted by: ReverendBeastly
I agree with Nanner. And...

5.Where is everybody? I believe they might have left to some where. DAYV, Warbler, Shim, Rotten Johnny, Cassidy, The most important people left.

Those were not the most important people. DAYV was important. The others were annoying and had no business being on this board, especially Shim.

Good fucking riddance.


Oh RLY, now why would i have no business being on this bored??? and if your gonna start all that crap that i abandoned OT think again, i beleive that when the whole arguement started i was on Jays side, the only reason i went over there was cause i am better friends with most of those guys, i know them better. and WHO the fuck are you to say i have no business being here.

and for your information, i havent left this forum, i post at both, but right now there is nothing to post in either the off topic, or the starwars forum, so i dont post. just like a normal person would do eh.

my god i understand how seans Good bye didnt follow internet ettiquet but i cant beleive how much you guys continue to complain, and insult and i donno even know the words to describe it.

whatever though, ill always remember those years way back when the site first got launched, when there was actual interesting discussion in the starwars forum (i.e. the scripts that rebel_srumb wrote, and posted) and the ep 3 naming threads. back then it was so innocent. no one would flame eachother cause it was just something you didnt do. now someone says one thing and its open country on his ass. what ever though, maybe something interesting will pop up. maybe when the starwars live action show gets started, or the animated series starts, there might be something worth talking about.
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long time have I watched this forum. Once it was a great place. Now it has fallen. I feel compelled to blame mods of OT.com. When that "other website" came online, you guys could have had everyone on your side. The whole argument could have been about them being a copycat and stealing your ideas. But instead because you unwisely decided to ban all links to the place and all references to the place, the argument became about freedom of expression and longtime members leaving. Think about that.

Also think out this. Think about which is worse. The offensive stuff that trolls post, or links to that "other website"? Do you not see the inconsistency of allowing trolls like awk, Stinky-Dinkins and the rest, to get away with all they get away with but then banning any references to this "other website"? If you really beleve in an open free forum, I suggest you change that policy.

I have watched how Jay has dealt with trolls. It is ineffective. I have seen that whenever anyone has complained to Jay. He has told people to ignore the troll(and he has been rude in the way he says it). That would only work if every member agreed to the same thing and agreed to do it long term, and it would take awhile. If you just ban a troll, the problem is gone in a matter of seconds. Think about how much trouble could have been avoided if Awk had been banned permanently when he first started to make trouble. Think about how much trouble and disgrace this forum could have avoided if Stinky-Dinkins were dealth with in a similar manner. Jay is right when says if we were to ignore trolls, they would go away. But let us live in the world and realize that humans are humans and are not going to ignore people that insult them. Ignoring trolls simply won't happen. Therefor it will not work.

Now, let us talk about the mods Zion and Moth3r. For a long time, Jay said he didn't want mods, then in the preservation section he allowed Zion to be a mod. To me this was major shift in the policies of this fourm. Yet it no annoucement of it was made in the Important Announcement Section nor was reason giving for the major change in policy or the need for a mod the preservation section and not in the rest of the forum. Think about how this might offend longtime loyal members who thought they deserved to be made mods and were turned turned down because Jay said he didn't want mods. Then, also without major announcement and reason giving(a apologize if I missed these somewhere), Moth3r was made a mod and Zions and Moth3r powers became retroactive throughout the forum. Making Moth3r a mod doesn't seem to make sense. Moth3r doesn't seem to agree with Jay on how to take care of trolls. He has banned trolls rather than tell people to ignore them. He has also bee rather rude with long time loyal members. To me, he does not seem to have the credentials to make a good mod. A mod must be patient, fair, and believe the value of freed of expression. None of these seem to apply to Moth3r. I humbly suggest that Moth3r should no long be a mod here and a replacement be found. Doing so would should a commitment to freedom of expression, and respect of forum members. I believe many forum members believe that Jay does not respect them or care about them. Removing such a controversial mod would, I think, change that perception. The fact that I fear I may be banned or my post edited/deleted for this criticism of Moth3r, demonstrates the need to replace him.

Jay, you have said that those who don't like this forum can leave. Is that what you really want? Do you want to keep forum members or lose them? Do you want fourm full of intellegent thoughtfull posters or a forum full of trolls? Instead of taking the stubborn stance that all those who are unhappy with forum should leave, why not ask yourself why they are unhappy with forum? Is it not possible that they are right? Are there any reasonable steps you could take to cure the problem? Could you give justification for the things done that have upset the forum members? Just because people are unhappy with the forum, doesn't make them undesirable as forum members or in the wrong.

I have not said these things to upset or offend anyone or to draw attention to myself. If I have offended anyone with what I have said, I apologize. I am just trying to give my opinion on the issues. It is my hope that you think about what I have said and take steps to restore this forum to its former glory and maybe some of the members that left will return.



I thank you for your time.
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Watching the forum, my ass. I'd be willing to bet money you're one of the same FE people that's been bitching for the past few months. I'd bet most on either seanwookie or boon23, and I don't think even boon23 cares that much about this place anymore.

I've been on a few forums in the past few years, and this is my favorite by far. It's the most loosely moderated forum I've ever been on. The only people that feel the wrath of the mods deserve it in the first place. Jay says not to post links to FE...don't fucking do it! It's not that hard! If you do, all it does is piss everybody off and spark a feud that would've been easily avoidable.

AWK was a slimy disgrace to humanity that deserves waay more punishment in life than being banned from a forum. Stinky-Dinkins, on the other hand, cracks jokes at people that annoy him, and most of the time they deserve it. Check the hot.like.fire thread (around page 10, if I'm not mistaken) to see what I'm talking about. If you were a mod, and you banned Stinky, you wouldn't be a mod much longer. You'd have people calling you a little bitch, sort of like I'm doing right now.

You say that Jay is in the wrong by telling people to leave if they don't like it. Well, if I had a choice between people like you bitching all the time, or people like you leaving, I'd choose the latter.

In summary:

Shut The Fuck Up.

Thank you.

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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Watching the forum, my ass. I'd be willing to bet money you're one of the same FE people that's been bitching for the past few months. I'd bet most on either seanwookie or boon23, and I don't think even boon23 cares that much about this place anymore.


I am not seanwookie or boon23. Please do not make assumptions like that.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split

The only people that feel the wrath of the mods deserve it in the first place.


I don't think everyone here would agree with you on that.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Jay says not to post links to FE...don't fucking do it! It's not that hard! If you do, all it does is piss everybody off and spark a feud that would've been easily avoidable.

Of course, it is not that hard to not post links to that "other website" but that is not point. The question is, is it right to ban links to that "other website" and let people like dinkins and others do all they do? I do not believe so. Perhaps it does create a feud, but is the feud created when the link is posted, or by its deletion?

Originally posted by: Nanner Split


AWK was a slimy disgrace to humanity that deserves waay more punishment in life than being banned from a forum.

This is true, but not the point of my post. My point was, is that this forum could have avoided alot of trouble if Jay had permanently banned him quickly instead of letting him get away with alot, temporarily banning him, he created sock accounts, was allowed come back, he created alot more trouble, sent a threatening letter to Dayv's child and then was finally removed. All of that could have easily been avoided. That is my point.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Stinky-Dinkins, on the other hand, cracks jokes at people that annoy him, and most of the time they deserve it. Check the hot.like.fire thread (around page 10, if I'm not mistaken) to see what I'm talking about.


I don't think everyone would agree with you there. I think many think he say offending thinks to people that do not deserve it. I think many believe he goes to far with his jokes.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
If you were a mod, and you banned Stinky, you wouldn't be a mod much longer. You'd have people calling you a little bitch, sort of like I'm doing right now.


If don't think there'd many many people calling me that. I don't think there are that many fans of dinkins.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Well, if I had a choice between people like you bitching all the time, or people like you leaving, I'd choose the latter.


I really don't understand this. I gave what I though was constructive criticizm. I'm sorry if you think it was "bitching" I really don't understand how it could have been taken that way. I was polite, I did not call anyone any names, I gave advise. If you think that is "bitching", just how would I go about writing my criticizm without it sounding like "bitching"? Surely you do see a difference between criticizm and "bitching" don't you?

Originally posted by: Nanner Split

In summary:

Shut The Fuck Up.

Thank you.


I really do not understand this attitude. Nanner, I believe you taking this way too personally. I have not been rude to you, please do not be rude to me. Thankyou.
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I'm sorry, that was way more harsh than it should've been. I started the post off with a purpose and I got carried away near the end. I apologize.

This is the main point I have issues with though:

Of course, it is not that hard to not post links to that "other website" but that is not point. The question is, is it right to ban links to that "other website" and let people like dinkins and others do all they do? I do not believe so. Perhaps it does create a feud, but is the feud created when the link is posted, or by its deletion?


You can feel free to quote the Constitution all you want, but this whole "freedom of expression" thing that the FE-ers have been touting does not apply here. This forum is a private institution that Jay pays for, and as a result, he can censor whatever the hell he wants. He had personal issues with a website, and that's his right to do that. If I remember correctly, he asked people to remove the links, but they refused. He therefore deleted the links for them because they didn't do what he asked of them, and so they bitched and moaned about freedom of speech and all this other stuff and eventually left. Jay is not at fault here.


Again, sorry I blew up at you. I'm just starting to get sick of this stuff. I would've thought people here would've been mature enough to move on by now. Apparently I was wrong.

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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
I'm sorry, that was way more harsh than it should've been. I started the post off with a purpose and I got carried away near the end. I apologize.

apology accepted.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split

You can feel free to quote the Constitution all you want,

I never quoted the constituition in either of my posts.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
but this whole "freedom of expression" thing that the FE-ers have been touting does not apply here. This forum is a private institution that Jay pays for, and as a result, he can censor whatever the hell he wants.

legally and technically, you are right. But are you right morally and ethically? You have said that you like that this is an open forum. Would it be such an open forum if the idea of freedom of expression is not followed, respected and adhered to by the mods? By the way, you broke the rules in your first response to me. You used the name of that "other site". Your post may be edited or deleted by the mods.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
He had personal issues with a website, and that's his right to do that. .


As I said above he has the right to do what he did, but that it make morally or ethically right or a smart thing to do? Was it in the best interest of the forum for him to do what he did?

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
If I remember correctly, he asked people to remove the links, but they refused. He therefore deleted the links for them because they didn't do what he asked of them, and so they bitched and moaned about freedom of speech and all this other stuff and eventually left. Jay is not at fault here.
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The point is, should Jay have asked them to remove links? Maybe Jay is not at fault. But the fact remains, is that he could have avoided a lot trouble by just allowing the links and other references to that "other site". He could have been the bigger man and decided not too.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split

I'm just starting to get sick of this stuff. I would've thought people here would've been mature enough to move on by now. Apparently I was wrong.


I am sorry about that. I'm just trying give advise how Jay might go about improving the forum. Rest assured, I will move on quickly.






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You know for a lurker, you seem to know an awful lot about what's going on. I might even be so bold as to say you're a disgruntled ex-forum member who can't help but keep coming back to this place, especially when your good buddy's goodbye thread seems like it needs a "fresh perspective". So why not post the same crap you've been talking about on the other board for three months again and pretend you're an anonymous third party? Am I right? Of course I'm right.

Look Warbler, if you want to chime in why can't you just do it with your own damn screename instead of pretending to be someone else. Bad form.

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Originally posted by: OTcomwatcher
long time have I watched this forum.



Yahahahahaha. "long time have I watched this forum." Hellllllo drama queen!

I only bother douchebags. Whether or not they're purposefully annoying (like AWK) or completely oblivious to their own idiocy (think "Shimraa") doesn't really matter. After reading about the first six sentences of that whiny novel you posted up there it's pretty clear you deserve to be bothered. Personally, I'd rather read a Star Wars Off-Topic forum with less posts within than a group of high school students' rambling, never-ending blog masquerading as a Star Wars Off-Topic forum. For the record, I don't care what HotLikeFire's feelings on *insert anything here* are, or how many boogers Sean Wookie found in his ketchup at school today, or counting how many words Shimraa is able to misspell in one post. I think those that do have found a cozy new home in that German guy's forum (the premise of which he kindly "Borrowed" and ran away with under his arm not unlike the Hamburglar.)

I mean, honestly man - no offense, but you sound like a HUGE twat.

PS: When I said "No offense" I secretly knew it would offend you.

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i dont think he is someone from the other forum, cause no one has posted veiws like that over there. is mostly just bitching. that was not bitching. nor do i think its warbler cause he is a grammer nazi, and those posts have a few typos.( i know a thing or two about typos). he offered a pretty good post, take it or leave it its your choice. good on you man.

i do find it funny how no one piped in when i posted though. hmm interesting. as mods i might have expected you guys to say something, alas nothing which is a norm. dont worry though i am sure the preservations forums arent effected by anything. oh p.s. boon wanted his edit links deleted from the preservationsection. i think that wish should be respected. we'll see what happens though.

ah stinky so predictable, how did i know you would poke fun at that. so predictable.
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Shim, his wishes were respected. Do your homework.

Also, this marks the first occasion on which I laugh heartily with Stinky, who I usually also find annoying. Quite an amusing thread, this.

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who knows, maybe some discussion after, but maybe that woulda been disruptive. sry there wasnt much you coulda posted, just a lil sour at RB for got getting an apology or even a response.
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I was not involved in the problems that happened a while back. I just wish we could move on. Can't we forgive and forget? This place is special, and I hate seeing it torn down because of some harsh words and whatever else may have happened. I miss everyone who has left.
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I believe we have forgotten for the most part. What always brings it up again are the ship jumpers who do dramatic things like... a.... start this thread for instance. I believe OT.com has moved on. If we have been dwelling on this, I certianly have missed it (this thread and other dramatic FEer threads excluded of course). I am sorry a few people felt the need to start a clone sight and move to that. But it really hasn't had as great of an impact as they expected it to have. I remember reading some of their posts on FE right after it happened, and laughing because Dayv posted something to the effect of how sorry he was OT.com was going to suffer so much because of Jay's behavior and wondering how long it would take for OT.com to recover from the great loss. I laughed, because I think the majority of the whole sight didn't even seem to know anything had happened, the offtopic was the only place anything was noticable. And now, other than for people making a big scene everytime they decide or threaten to completely cut ties with OT and only visit "the other sight", it is all forgotten.

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Originally posted by: Shimraa
who knows, maybe some discussion after, but maybe that woulda been disruptive. sry there wasnt much you coulda posted, just a lil sour at RB for got getting an apology or even a response.

I don't see how what you said really called for a response. I said something, it irritated you, you said something, end. Was I hasty in some of the things I posted? Yeah, but I'm not the type to go back and edit my posts because I've changed my mind about how I felt at the time.

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To OTcomWatcher,

We don't care anymore. It's done. Get over it. Have a coke and a smile and STFU.

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Wow, I'm gone for a little while, and the shit revives itself and hits the fan all over again. Man, that poor fan. It must suck getting shit all over it so often. Yeah, I was under the impression we'd moved past all this. I sure as hell wish YIYF would come around here more often. But, since I didn't list anything this week, I'm thankful for this thread because I got to laugh at some more hilarious Stinky posts, and those always make my day.

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