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The Millenium Falcon and its missing conceptual development

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As far as I can tell, there is no significant concept development of the Millenium Falcon between the intial blockade runner design and the subsequent 'real' Falcon. One moment it's the blockade runner, the next it's the falcon as we know it.

For a design departure that radical, you'd think there had been some sketches or mockups of some sort, right? The roughest, earliest drawings I've been able to find, are the thumbnails McQuarrie did for his revised Docking Bay 94 painting in A Gallery of Imagination, and clearly those were almost fully fledged designs!

So where did it come from? Am I just missing something obvious? (And no, it wasn't inspired by a burger.)

 

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I seem to remember some talk of it being partly inspired by a fish.

Remember the cockpit was going to swivel during take off so the 'saucer' would be orientated vertically during space flight.

A feature that was later dropped.

Or did I dream it?

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You're probably thinking of this quote from Cinefex #65, p80):

Among the largest of them was the *Millenium Falcon*—whose redesign by Joe Johnston was purportedly inspired by Lucas’ idea of a hamburger in space. “The original concept called for the *Falcon* to sail like a giant sunfish,” explained Lorne Peterson. “It would lift off on its horizontal axis, then rotate into a vertical configuration and fly opened on edge with the front mandibles pointed forward. We never actually shot it that way, though, because George decided he liked the look of it flying horizontally.

I have a pet theory that it was inspired by a John Berkey painting. But still, from that idea, to the final McQuarrie drawing? A huge hole...

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So glad I'm not losing my noodles.

Certain features had to carry over from the original design.

Like the cockpit shape (which I believe had already been built) and the above and below quad-gun turrets.

The rest had to be radically different as the original model would be adapted to be the Tantive.

So I assume the quantum leap of the design came from those specific requirements (keeping the elements needed for the story and/or already built but making everything else look as non-linear as possible).

There is nothing less like a conventional linear plane layout than a saucer, one the reasons why they appear in so many science fiction stories.

And yes it does look a bit like a Vulcan salute too :-D

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I don't disagree with that*, but that still doesn't explain why there is no visual development of the new Falcon design. You don't just build a $150.000 (1977 dollars) model without a plan. Hell, russians don't take a dump without a plan, how would you build a model spaceship?

* Currently wishing I could find out when the cockpit interior was built in relation to the final design/model

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It sounds like it was a real emergency re-design so I guess it's not that odd that there isn't much documentation, it could have been over a weekend. (I drive by the crappy old ILM building all the time and it's amazing what a shoestring operation it must have been, it's pretty awesome. One more reason it's such a shame when any of that early Macgyver work is replaced)

http://starwarsaficionado.blogspot.com/2010/08/ilm-classic-image-first-falcon.html

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I've heard the story about an olive next to a hamburger = Falcon.

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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I've heard Uncle  George's - inspired by a hamburger with an olive on it - story a number of times.  My take has always been the same;

If your original concept art looks like this;

...and you like it enough to proceed to the level of building this;

...then I'm calling Bullshit on the hamburger\olive story.  George is a pathological liar where Star Wars history is concerned.  He probably thought it sounded like a funny or clever anecdote after he saw the redesign and then decided to run with it. 

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Yeah, I'm not believing it either, but that's the only one I've heard, not any fish or hand theories.

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I've heard the hamburger story in the context of the redesign: They needed a idea for the redesign, and George was holding a hamburger with a bite missing. So he said, "how about this, with an olive as the cockpit?"

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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I've never seen any direct quotes from Lucas in which he said that the Falcon was based off of a burger. But I've seen the story perpetuated over and over again, as if he had (as with so many other half-truths and non-truths; sourcing claims is not something people are big on).

So let's take it from the top; Dale Pollock, in Skywalking page 210:

And who else [but Lucas] would refer to the *Falcon* as “a hamburger-shaped spaceship”?

 Doesn't indicate anything, except that the Falcon is somewhat hamburger-shaped. Says nothing about the design process. And then from the previous quote:

[...] whose redesign by Joe Johnston was purportedly inspired by Lucas’ idea of a hamburger in space.


Which could just as easily have come out of Johnston saying something along the lines of: "You know, George said just the other day, that the Falcon looked almost like a burger flying through space," and the writer not being careful enough with his choice of words, much like the 'Slave 1 was based on a streetlamp'-myth (untrue).

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I heard it was based on a bed that Lucas really liked:

This one, I think.

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But it was probably this one.  It's too much of a coincidence.

 

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The resemblance is uncanny.

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xhonzi said:

But it was probably this one.  It's too much of a coincidence.

 

OMG!!!

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That room is totally not child-proofed!

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Here's the only storyboard I've ever seen of the Syd-Mead-esque Falcon redesign. In fact, it's the only other rendition of that cockpit I've seen aside from McQuarrie's production painting.

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