The Matrix 35mm (Released) — Page 3

captainsolo said:

The LD is supposed to have DD audio with slightly better dynamic range, though I doubt by much and may or may not have better timing.

I believe Hairy_hen said that the audio is pretty much identical across releases, and the reason some find it different is just because they play it back at different volume levels.

penguinofgreatness said:

captainsolo said:

The LD is supposed to have DD audio with slightly better dynamic range, though I doubt by much and may or may not have better timing.

I believe Hairy_hen said that the audio is pretty much identical across releases, and the reason some find it different is just because they play it back at different volume levels.

I wonder how the theatrical DTS compares to this then?

StarThoughts said:

Wasn't LD Dolby AC-3 limited to 384 kb/s? If so, the DVD's 448 kb/s track would probably sound better if corrected for the volume discrepancy.

I was referring more to DTS audio that was mixed for the actual film print.  I would guess that it's dynamic range "might" be better than those created to fit the home viewing experience.

So do we still not know what the 35mm print color is like?

Is there going to be enough people to pitch in on the cost of the print?

Also where was this print from, a movie theater or something else?

poita is away for a while, so we won't know anything until after he is back and has the time to provide an update.

101_303 said:

If it helps, the original color timing had skies that looked either white or green but NOT blue.

April '99, interview with the DP / directors: http://www.theasc.com/magazine/apr99/matrix/index.htm

 

Because the entire film was meticulously storyboarded in color, though, Pope did have an understanding of the visual style that the directors wanted to create. "Larry and Andy wanted The Matrix to have two distinct worlds," says the cinematographer. "There is the world in the 2197 future — in which we have the pods made by the computers — and then there's the present-day Matrix world, which was designed to be a slightly unappealing reality.

"The future world is cold, dark and riddled with lightning, so we left the lighting a bit bluer and made it dark as hell. Also, the future reality is very grimy because there's no reason to clean it — only the pods need to be sterile. Because humans haven't actually manufactured anything for a hundred years, anything that had been manufactured is now old and rusty.

"We didn't necessarily want the Matrix world to resemble our present world," adds Pope. "We didn't want any cheery blue skies. In Australia, the sky is a brilliant blue virtually all the time, but we wanted bald, white skies. All of our TransLight backings [for the stage work] were altered to have white skies, and on actual exterior shots in which we see a lot of sky, we digitally enhanced the skies to make them white. Additionally, since we wanted the Matrix reality to be unappealing, we asked ourselves, 'What is the most unappealing color?' I think we all agreed on green, so for those scenes, we sometimes used green filters, and I'd add a little bit of green in the color timing."

 

Another interview with the DP: http://www.whatisthematrix.com/cmp/interview_index.html

As evidenced by the "the other day" comment it took place during shooting.

MATRIX: Can you tell me about the two colors that are used to distinguish the inside from the outside of the Matrix?

BILL: To distinguish the Matrix from 'reality', from the Nebuchadnezzar and the pods, 'reality' was given a cooler look, a bluer, more normal, less sickly look. The future in the film is cold, the sun is blotted out, there is no real warmth unless it is artificial heat, so that is whey they went for the cool side. Whereas the Matrix, created by the computers, is a decadent, decaying world, so it has a green hue. These are the two different colors - green and blue. The Matrix should make you feel sick, and in 'reality' you should feel a little more at home, but never comfortable. If you make it gold and warm you know that it is home, a safe haven. The other day I started using warm lights, I did this unconsciously for the first time in Neo's bedroom. It just felt right that it should be slightly warm. As harsh as that bunk is, it is the only home he has got.

Take that from a huge fan of the film/trilogy; I might haven't seen the original on the big screen, but from everything I know about it, I would be extremely surprised if the color palette wasn't that of the original DVD.

Sure, there is the possibility that it might haven't been transferred very well (eg looking duller than normal, or browner than normal or whatever) however don't expect the color timing to be completely different from the DVD, eg like this:

Jetrell Fo said:

StarThoughts said:

Wasn't LD Dolby AC-3 limited to 384 kb/s? If so, the DVD's 448 kb/s track would probably sound better if corrected for the volume discrepancy.

I was referring more to DTS audio that was mixed for the actual film print.  I would guess that it's dynamic range "might" be better than those created to fit the home viewing experience.

AFAIK the mixes for The Matrix over the years are identical, and for this reason the lossless audio from the Blu-Ray should be, technically speaking, superior to the cinema DTS because it has a higher sample rate, a higher bit depth and its lossless, which means it should have a better dynamic range. Whether you notice the difference or not, though, probably depends on your equipment and how discerning your ear is. There shouldn't be much, if any, noticeable difference between theatrical mixes and home audio mixes provided they are derived from the same master and don't suffer 'enhancement' for home viewing.

Just wanted to tell you guys that I've gotten a couple requests to share the VHS screener I have on VCD. Check myspleen and it'll appear soon.

By the way, here's something I found when searching for info on the screener. Taken from this page.

When Neo is running from the agents near the end, he jumps off a fire escape and lands on a pile of garbage. When we see him (stunt double) land, we can see that there is a cushion with the garbage placed on top. Note: This is only seen in the open matte version, and not in the widescreen version where the cushion would have been out of frame.

And here's a screen from my VCD:

Does anybody know more of these things that one could find in this version?

I do have some softwares that filter out lots of things that can be harmful or sneaky, and sometimes normal users can be filtered out and maybe that's what's happening. Either way, one of the downloaders have 49.5% now, and as soon as some have 100% I bet the seeding will work better.

So just wait a while and you'll get the files. I might go offline every now and then, especially at night but will seed when I can. Right now it's seeding at full speed.

AntcuFaalb said:

You_Too said:

I do have some softwares that filter out lots of things that can be harmful or sneaky

PeerBlock?

Off topic! :D

Yeah, one is Peerblock.