I watched Civil War again because my brother got it on DVD, and I must say, everytime I watch the film ilike it a bit more than the time before. I can safely call Zemo my favourite MCU villain after Loki.
Civil War might be the dumbest Marvel so far.
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Yep. The other three (IM 3 being better than the second one by the way) are just dumb; Civil war tries to be complex and ends up showing a lame brawl in a german airport.
I’m shocked, SHOCKED, that Malà thinks something most people think is good is actually dumb.
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It’s logical, most people love bad movies. Also most modern blockbusters are dumb such as this one or the last Star Trek movie, which was a complete failure. Only exception being BvS, so bad that it’s hard to find someone loving it.
People who think they’re the only smart ones are my favorite posters here. Mala, Impscum, Darth Id…y’all are our own precious treasures!
People who think they’re the only smart ones are my favorite posters here. Mala, Impscum, Darth Id…y’all are our own precious treasures!
I love you too Frink. Always on personal attacks, don’t change, you’re my favorite sucker. You do it right.
To paraphrase Impscum, the truth is not a personal attack, it is merely the truth.
I watched Civil War again because my brother got it on DVD, and I must say, everytime I watch the film ilike it a bit more than the time before. I can safely call Zemo my favourite MCU villain after Loki.
Civil War might be the dumbest Marvel so far.
I really don’t get the hate for Iron Man Three. I mean, I get some of it, like the various plot holes and weak villain motivations, but other stuff that gets brought up, like the Mandarin twist, Tony’s PTSD, and the fact that Iron Man is barely in it, I don’t.
Not enough people read the EU.
Thanks for quoting it, Frink!
Also: From my research, Robbie Reyes’ skull is actually a helmet he wears and not an actual skull.
So it looking “fake” makes sense to an extent.
Where were you in '77?
I watched Civil War again because my brother got it on DVD, and I must say, everytime I watch the film ilike it a bit more than the time before. I can safely call Zemo my favourite MCU villain after Loki.
Civil War might be the dumbest Marvel so far.
I really don’t get the hate for Iron Man Three. I mean, I get some of it, like the various plot holes and weak villain motivations, but other stuff that gets brought up, like the Mandarin twist, Tony’s PTSD, and the fact that Iron Man is barely in it, I don’t.
What about that horrible twist do you not get the hate for?
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I watched Civil War again because my brother got it on DVD, and I must say, everytime I watch the film ilike it a bit more than the time before. I can safely call Zemo my favourite MCU villain after Loki.
Civil War might be the dumbest Marvel so far.
I really don’t get the hate for Iron Man Three. I mean, I get some of it, like the various plot holes and weak villain motivations, but other stuff that gets brought up, like the Mandarin twist, Tony’s PTSD, and the fact that Iron Man is barely in it, I don’t.
What about that horrible twist do you not get the hate for?
It’s kind of clever?
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I watched Civil War again because my brother got it on DVD, and I must say, everytime I watch the film ilike it a bit more than the time before. I can safely call Zemo my favourite MCU villain after Loki.
Civil War might be the dumbest Marvel so far.
I really don’t get the hate for Iron Man Three. I mean, I get some of it, like the various plot holes and weak villain motivations, but other stuff that gets brought up, like the Mandarin twist, Tony’s PTSD, and the fact that Iron Man is barely in it, I don’t.
What about that horrible twist do you not get the hate for?
It’s kind of clever?
And here I was thinking it was incredibly disappointing.
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I watched Civil War again because my brother got it on DVD, and I must say, everytime I watch the film ilike it a bit more than the time before. I can safely call Zemo my favourite MCU villain after Loki.
Civil War might be the dumbest Marvel so far.
I really don’t get the hate for Iron Man Three. I mean, I get some of it, like the various plot holes and weak villain motivations, but other stuff that gets brought up, like the Mandarin twist, Tony’s PTSD, and the fact that Iron Man is barely in it, I don’t.
What about that horrible twist do you not get the hate for?
It’s kind of clever?
And here I was thinking it was incredibly disappointing.
Well now you know.
Not enough people read the EU.
I watched Civil War again because my brother got it on DVD, and I must say, everytime I watch the film ilike it a bit more than the time before. I can safely call Zemo my favourite MCU villain after Loki.
Civil War might be the dumbest Marvel so far.
I really don’t get the hate for Iron Man Three.
There also is a quite good action sequence (the air force one, sadly ruined by a curious joke about Stark not being in the suit), and there are many Shane Black auto-quotations that are fun here and there. Way better than Iron Man 2, but not as balanced as Iron Man 1. Both are watchable. It’s not The Avengers.
I love the Mandarin twist, it was great for the movie. I never understood why so many people don’t like it, but to be honest I have never ever read an Iron Man comic (nor do I plan to) so I never knew there was some DIFFERENT Mandarin.
But what I don’t understand are the stupid comments about Iron Man not being in the movie enough - Tony Stark IS Iron Man. He is the interesting character, the suit is just a suit.
What I don’t get is the general love for the first Avengers movie, it’s just a dumb action flick. I’m glad I’ve seen, I enjoyed it, but that’s the best thing I can say about it. But most of the people behave like it’s the best movie they’ve seen
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What I don’t get is the general love for the first Avengers movie, it’s just a dumb action flick.
It’s an empty movie. Not much going on in it. And it looks awful (like a cheap tvseries). Avengers 2 is better in every way. Not good though, only better.
This was mentioned in the Rogue One thread by Tobar, and it brought to my attention that Giacchino is composing for Doctor Strange.
For Pixar, the maestro created the music for Incredibles, Ratatouille, Up (for which he won an Oscar), Cars 2 and Inside Out. For its live-action film division, he has worked on Sky High, John Carter and Tomorrowland. For Disney Animation this year, Giacchino scored its surprise hit Zootopia. And he’s making his Marvel Studios debut with Doctor Strange, which opens Nov. 4.
I wonder if he might finally give the MCU some strong, memorable music, rather than the standard, bland fare that every other Marvel film has. If he does, then Doctor Strange could end up alleviating my two biggest problems with the MCU: the bland scores and visual style.
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This was mentioned in the Rogue One thread by Tobar, and it brought to my attention that Giacchino is composing for Doctor Strange.
For Pixar, the maestro created the music for Incredibles, Ratatouille, Up (for which he won an Oscar), Cars 2 and Inside Out. For its live-action film division, he has worked on Sky High, John Carter and Tomorrowland. For Disney Animation this year, Giacchino scored its surprise hit Zootopia. And he’s making his Marvel Studios debut with Doctor Strange, which opens Nov. 4.
I wonder if he might finally give the MCU some strong, memorable music, rather than the standard, bland fare that every other Marvel film has. If he does, then Doctor Strange could end up alleviating my two biggest problems with the MCU: the bland scores and visual style.
Same two biggest gripes I have with the MCU also. Though I find “The Avengers” theme and “The Winter Soilder” score pretty decent. Besides that I can’t hum literally anything.
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Though I did think Iron Man 2’s use of AC/DC was fun. Obviously doesn’t have to do anything with it’s bland score but hey, something it’s got going for it.
I miss the Iron Man music from Iron Man. I thought it was great, iconic music and it basically disappeared by IM2.
They should have established more motifs for each character and then used them combined for The Avengers films. Imagine how cool it would be to have Steve and Tony’s themes clashing in Civil War.
More things should be scored like Star Wars.
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I miss the Iron Man music from Iron Man. I thought it was great, iconic music and it basically disappeared by IM2.
They should have established more motifs for each character and then used them combined for The Avengers films. Imagine how cool it would be to have Steve and Tony’s themes clashing in Civil War.
More things should be scored like Star Wars.
Yeah both the Iron Man and Cap themes from their respective films were pretty cool.
One thing that definitely doesn’t help (in addition to the general blandness) is complete inconsistency of composers. Three Iron Man movies, three different composers. Three Thor movies, three different composers. Two Avengers movies, you get it.
There has been some slight continuity. Silvestri did the first Cap and then Avengers (but then was dropped completely - although he’ll be back for Infinity War!) and Jackman did Winter Soldier and Civil War (coincidence or not but these might be the four best). Brian Tyler did some cross hero scoring but he’s also total shit.
Thankfully yes, we have Giacchino to look forward to but I wouldn’t expect him to single-handedly turn this ship around.
I miss the Iron Man music from Iron Man. I thought it was great, iconic music and it basically disappeared by IM2.
They should have established more motifs for each character and then used them combined for The Avengers films. Imagine how cool it would be to have Steve and Tony’s themes clashing in Civil War.
More things should be scored like Star Wars.
Yeah both the Iron Man and Cap themes from their respective films were pretty cool.
One thing that definitely doesn’t help (in addition to the general blandness) is complete inconsistency of composers. Three Iron Man movies, three different composers. Three Thor movies, three different composers. Two Avengers movies, you get it.
There has been some slight continuity. Silvestri did the first Cap and then Avengers (but then was dropped completely - although he’ll be back for Infinity War!) and Jackman did Winter Soldier and Civil War (coincidence or not but these might be the four best). Brian Tyler did some cross hero scoring but he’s also total shit.
Thankfully yes, we have Giacchino to look forward to but I wouldn’t expect him to single-handedly turn this ship around.
Totally agree. To be honest, the music is the most lacking part of the franchise. They really should have invested in a single composer for each hero with a standalone franchise, then had them all coordinate or something for the teamup films. Or at least invested in one really versatile composer for all the films. People really should have learned this in '77.
I have the Iron Man theme in my head almost as much as I have Star Wars tunes, and carrying that through the movies would have really stitched them all together. They really missed the boat here. Having a consistent musical feel is critical for a large franchise like Marvel’s, as far as I’m concerned.
Someone talented should reorchestrate the films.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/classicalmusic/comments/52uiwe/the_problem_with_marvel_scores/
lol I just saw this on Reddit. How funny.
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A great analysis of the one thing that has always bothered me about the Marvel films:
The Marvel Symphonic Universe
I don’t know about you guys but here are my top five soundtracks of marvel:
1. Captain America: The Winter Solider
Love this soundtrack to death. Marvels biggest weakness is it’s music but I think Jackman outdid himself here. It’s beautiful and inspiring. The Winter Soilder music is eerie, intense and captivating. And Caps new theme is sooooooooo good. The entire scoring of the end fight of Bucky and cap is the best music of the MCU hands down for me.
2. The Avengers
Really only cause of the Avengers theme. Most memorable piece (winter Soilder has the best piece IMO, but slightly less memorable than this theme). It’s just a damn good theme that gets ya pumped.
3. Captain America: Civil War
Well balanced soundtrack. The main civil war theme is fine, zemos theme is pretty awesome and it really plays well when tony sees the tape. Black Panther and Spider-Man have some really fun original music for them.
4. Iron Man
Alright soundtrack. Iron Mans theme is so badass.
5. Guardians of the Galaxy (the score… i know, soundtrack doesn’t count)
I mean…it’s…fine…bland. Sorry, it’s just past the top four spots all you get is traditional marvel bland forgettable music.
The top spot really is a great soundtrack I think. The only marvel musical score that I think is a actual really good score on its own.
But if it was a list of top soundtracks Guardians of the Galaxy would absolutely destroy EVERY single other soundtrack in the MCU. Very excited for Awesome Mix 2.
I liked the score for “The Incredible Hulk” a lot. Liked it so much I got the limited 2-disc edition. Only soundtrack I own from the Marvel films. The rest seem to work well in the films. I never had to stop and think how the music did not fit the movie in the same way “Star Trek IV” had done to me.
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