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The Map to Luke's location

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I have yet to see TLJ or TROS. Is it ever explained why there was a map in R2, leading to where Luke had gone?

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Only what’s in TFA itself, though it could have been made clearer:

Kylo Ren mentions that the First Order only partially recovered the map to the first Jedi Temple from the old Imperial archives.

BB8 suggests perhaps R2 has the rest of the map, which 3PO immediately poo-poos. But, inspired by the idea, he starts searching his memory. He does eventually find it, acquired when he plugged into the Death Star in ANH.

Nothing to do with Rey, and not sone bread crumb Luke left in order to be found.

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Hal 9000 said:
He does eventually find it, acquired when he plugged into the Death Star in ANH.

That makes perfect sense. 😮

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theprequelsrule said:

I have yet to see TLJ or TROS. Is it ever explained why there was a map in R2, leading to where Luke had gone?

Convenience. Plots take too much time.

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I remember posting about how this didn’t make sense way back in 2015. I finally found an interview where Abrams said that when BB8 first meets R2, he asked him if he knows anything about Luke’s whereabouts. R2 heard the question while in low power mode, and slowly wakes up over the course of the movie. Upon fully booting up, he searches his databanks and finds the map, which he unknowingly downloaded when he copied a bunch of files from the Death Stars computers.

Apparently that was Abrams’s intention and there’s absolutely nothing on screen that communicates any of it to the audience.

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But even that doesn’t explain why the Imperial map from 40 years ago has a hole in it with a dotted line leading to the hole which perfectly fits around the piece reconstructed by Tekka, which also has that line continued to Luke’s island. Like, that map from the Empire must have been specifically intended to find that one Jedi temple, implying that Palps was working on finding it even after he assumed all the Jedi were gone, and it somehow got included in the installation CDs for the Death Star, and it would have been accidentally unrestricted information because even a floorplan of the Death Star detention block is unavailable to R2. And all of this implies that the Rebellion/New Republic/Resistance didn’t have this intel from the Empire even after conquering said Empire, nor did they have even a scrap of data from this region of space which would allow them to triangulate the rest of the map’s position. At this point I’m worried that the Resistance doesn’t know how a telescope works.

I’m sorry. I started thinking about it again.

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NeverarGreat said:

But even that doesn’t explain why the Imperial map from 40 years ago has a hole in it with a dotted line leading to the hole which perfectly fits around the piece reconstructed by Tekka, which also has that line continued to Luke’s island. Like, that map from the Empire must have been specifically intended to find that one Jedi temple, implying that Palps was working on finding it even after he assumed all the Jedi were gone, and it somehow got included in the installation CDs for the Death Star, and it would have been accidentally unrestricted information because even a floorplan of the Death Star detention block is unavailable to R2. And all of this implies that the Rebellion/New Republic/Resistance didn’t have this intel from the Empire even after conquering said Empire, nor did they have even a scrap of data from this region of space which would allow them to triangulate the rest of the map’s position. At this point I’m worried that the Resistance doesn’t know how a telescope works.

I’m sorry. I started thinking about it again.

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NeverarGreat said:

But even that doesn’t explain why the Imperial map from 40 years ago has a hole in it with a dotted line leading to the hole which perfectly fits around the piece reconstructed by Tekka, which also has that line continued to Luke’s island. Like, that map from the Empire must have been specifically intended to find that one Jedi temple, implying that Palps was working on finding it even after he assumed all the Jedi were gone, and it somehow got included in the installation CDs for the Death Star, and it would have been accidentally unrestricted information because even a floorplan of the Death Star detention block is unavailable to R2. And all of this implies that the Rebellion/New Republic/Resistance didn’t have this intel from the Empire even after conquering said Empire, nor did they have even a scrap of data from this region of space which would allow them to triangulate the rest of the map’s position. At this point I’m worried that the Resistance doesn’t know how a telescope works.

I’m sorry. I started thinking about it again.

I remember bringing up those exact points 4 years ago and people on this forum told me I was overthinking it.

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Cthulhunicron said:

NeverarGreat said:

But even that doesn’t explain why the Imperial map from 40 years ago has a hole in it with a dotted line leading to the hole which perfectly fits around the piece reconstructed by Tekka, which also has that line continued to Luke’s island. Like, that map from the Empire must have been specifically intended to find that one Jedi temple, implying that Palps was working on finding it even after he assumed all the Jedi were gone, and it somehow got included in the installation CDs for the Death Star, and it would have been accidentally unrestricted information because even a floorplan of the Death Star detention block is unavailable to R2. And all of this implies that the Rebellion/New Republic/Resistance didn’t have this intel from the Empire even after conquering said Empire, nor did they have even a scrap of data from this region of space which would allow them to triangulate the rest of the map’s position. At this point I’m worried that the Resistance doesn’t know how a telescope works.

I’m sorry. I started thinking about it again.

I remember bringing up those exact points 4 years ago and people on this forum told me I was overthinking it.

But how could they have suspected Star Wars fans would be so thoughtful?? They got lightsabers! And starfighters! And a porg. And The Falcon. And Chewbacca. 'Member?

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It’s the usual JJ problem; rush through it all and don’t think about anything. It’s about emotions it’s not about story. What matters is what you feel when the old and new (R2 and BB8) fit together with two map pieces.

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Mocata said:

It’s the usual JJ problem; rush through it all and don’t think about anything. It’s about emotions it’s not about story. What matters is what you feel when the old and new (R2 and BB8) fit together with two map pieces.

JJ is a lot like Lucas, and most of us, in many respects; some strengths and some weaknesses. He probably listens to others more than Lucas did - but they aren’t in the same league talent wise as those who Lucas had with him when making the OT.

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-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord

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The puzzle piece visual being replaced with something else would’ve helped, implying a lack of data to be able to display much of anything.

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Yeah, I can buy that a lot of space is uncharted. It’s just weird that somehow the republic in 35 years, never came across the map in any imperial computers. I’m assuming they would have raided various ships and bases in that time. Unless the only copy of the file was on the Death Star. I’d also like to know how Luke found a complete version of the map.

Edit: Nevermind, according to a post in the TROS discussion thread, Battlefront II explains that Luke found a Jedi compass and used that to find Ach To.