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That’s a terrific idea Acbagel.

Making the prison heist a second act without Grogu turns his eventual rescue a lot more powerful. One thing I would do in this case is take some of those episode 3 scenes where Mando is noticing the absence of Grogu on the ship and pepper them throughout the second act. That way, the audience feels like Grogu is somewhere in the back of Mando’s mind and that it’s weighing down on him. This can also lend a different shade to the betrayal by the heist crew. Somewhere, Mando feels like he has no true “tribe,” for a lack of a better word.

I also agree 100% with Eddie that episode 3 would be the best ending in this case. It’s just so climactic. Sanctuary does feel more like a interlude or prologue than a epilogue. In your initial edit, the Sanctuary scenes did feel a bit like a traditional opening to the second episode of a show. It’s the calm after a storm, but with a ominous note at the end that sets up the rest of the story.

One thing you could do is crosscut the flashbacks with the final fight of episode 3. The action in both is vaguely similar, so it might not be too jarring. Then you can show the final flashback scene (the Mando finding child Din) right before Din hands the ship part to Grogu at the end of episode 3. It’s showing how he’s found a new family and continuing the discussions about Mando’s sense of identity in the first and second acts.

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Acbagel said:

EddieDean said:

Now, that’s interesting. I don’t think the wetlands planet would make a good ending - episode 3 would be strongest this way - BUT you could use the wetlands content as the Mando opening in your second movie. Boba’s with tuskens thinking he’s found his people, Mando’s with the wetlanders wondering if he can find peace. Boba’s tusken family is killed, Mando gets tracked and has to leave his wetlanders. That segues nicely into Mando being pursued by the bounty hunter onto Tattooine, before the Fennec storyline overlap. Gives us a bit of a break from too much Boba/desert too.

It would also nicely set up movie 2’s conclusion - an opportunity to finally stop being pursued, which we’ve now seen happen to him heavily emphasised in one movie.

I truly hate that you’re right about this haha. It all does make a lot of sense narratively on paper at least… The idea just smacked me while reading the back and forths above and now I can’t get it out of my head as a superior structure. Someone please persuade me otherwise! I feel I am doomed to try this out now.

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Ah but wait! This means you wouldn’t be able to use wetlands to close out the flashback content. Ach!

True. However, I was thinking perhaps I’d start to bring the flashbacks into play when Din sees Grogu’s carrier in the trash (the event that now changes him as a man). He looks at that destroyed carrier and remembers himself as a helpless kid until someone had to come and rescue him too. A Mandalorian had to rescue him.

Oh God Damn that’s an amazing alternative idea. He returns to Navarro, sees the discarded carrier, remembers his own vulnerability and saving, and he’s back on. He’s becoming what he needed as a child. Incredible.

Is there a clean way to imply that the prison break job is a regular guild affair?

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Also, I agree with Tangelo about peppering in scenes of Mando missing Grogu. Ideally, a shot where Mando ponders Grogu’s beloved orb? So in one movie we see Grogu wanting the orb, Mando giving it as a distraction, Mando pondering the orb as a representation of Grogu, then finally when they’re together it’s a natural gift to mark their relationship.

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Oh, and one other thought. The “present” for Boba (i.e. the crossover point for Mando) can begin after the train heist. That’s when he’s shown his value to the tribe. We can then have an implied timeskip of years until he forges his gaffi, etc, and gets truly induced as a tusken.

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So I was eager to watch “Book Five” the most as the “present day” parts of The Book of Boba Fett is where I had the most issues with any disney plus series so far. Your fan edit is outstanding; I almost do to feel like I am watching the same content that was originally presented.

I loved how you restructured and repurposed some of the scenes throughout this chapter. You made the “mod squad” not eyeroll inducing and actually presented them as competant scouts in service of Boba’s interest. Another strength of the edit is how Boba starts out as already a sort of feudal lord respected by the townfolk and questioning whether he has choosen the right path by from transitioning from a Bounty Hunter to protector/crime boss from the very beginning. Boba is now assertive and a solid leader instead of being a dumbfounded fish out of water in his own series.

I also enjoyed how you removed some of the slapstick humor I did not think fit in a series about the most badass Bounty Hunter in the galaxy. Grogu not returning to Tatooine now was welcomed too and the Hutts were not missed at all. The intro of Black Krrsantan seemed so much more organic now and less convoluted, as well as all the Rancor material.Bravo! Great job; I cannot wait to watch the rest of the books in your series. May the force be with you!

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That’s a terrific idea Acbagel.

Making the prison heist a second act without Grogu turns his eventual rescue a lot more powerful. One thing I would do in this case is take some of those episode 3 scenes where Mando is noticing the absence of Grogu on the ship and pepper them throughout the second act. That way, the audience feels like Grogu is somewhere in the back of Mando’s mind and that it’s weighing down on him. This can also lend a different shade to the betrayal by the heist crew. Somewhere, Mando feels like he has no true “tribe,” for a lack of a better word.

Yes, definitely looking for ways to keep Grogu’s absence noticable when I can in the downtime.

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Is there a clean way to imply that the prison break job is a regular guild affair?

Yes! That was pretty easy to pull off actually. So an update where I’m at on this idea:

  1. I removed the flashbacks from the armorer scenes. I have some good transitions going now, like the over the shoulder pauldron shot in the ship that you suggested, plus my new breastplate transition is smooth as well.
  2. Added the extended walking before the mudhorn, needed a new soundtrack there as well.
  3. When Grogu is wanting to heal Din at night I tossed some new music in there as well to make it more of an emotional experience instead of an annoyance since I need to soon stress how Din will regret giving Grogu away for a longer period of time.
  4. I’ve got the scenes good to go for when Din talks to Karga and gets the job, as well as when he leaves Nevarro and heads to the prison break job alone.
  5. I’ve worked through the first half of the prison break episode to get it making sense in our new story order. All is looking good so far. I hit a hiccup regarding how the droid gang member dies. It’s very tied into Grogu, so I’m trying to figure out a good flow of how I can have Din still destroy him without Grogu being present at all. It works because Din already hates droids, the whole gang betrayed him, so it’s easy to have Din blow up that droid immediately with no regrets or hesitation. My struggle is more getting the shots to sync up to make it happen. I haven’t spent a ton of time there yet so I’ll update when I get to it.
  6. Still need to work on the destroyed carrier shot as I believe I’ll need to re-cut a good amount there to enhance it enough to make it work as a motivating factor to save Grogu.
  7. Also still need to play around with moving wetlands storyline into Book 2. I agree it’s something I’ll need to do, just haven’t gotten there yet.

Overall, this is defintely on track to pan out if I can nail these final (most important) scenes.

Darth Sadifous said:

So I was eager to watch “Book Five” the most as the “present day” parts of The Book of Boba Fett is where I had the most issues with any disney plus series so far. Your fan edit is outstanding; I almost do to feel like I am watching the same content that was originally presented.

I loved how you restructured and repurposed some of the scenes throughout this chapter. You made the “mod squad” not eyeroll inducing and actually presented them as competant scouts in service of Boba’s interest. Another strength of the edit is how Boba starts out as already a sort of feudal lord respected by the townfolk and questioning whether he has choosen the right path by from transitioning from a Bounty Hunter to protector/crime boss from the very beginning. Boba is now assertive and a solid leader instead of being a dumbfounded fish out of water in his own series.

I also enjoyed how you removed some of the slapstick humor I did not think fit in a series about the most badass Bounty Hunter in the galaxy. Grogu not returning to Tatooine now was welcomed too and the Hutts were not missed at all. The intro of Black Krrsantan seemed so much more organic now and less convoluted, as well as all the Rancor material.Bravo! Great job; I cannot wait to watch the rest of the books in your series. May the force be with you!

Wow, thanks so much for taking the time to write out that feedback, Darth! That’s great to hear. I’m happy that all of the changes worked well with you, I’m very pleased with the transformation of Book 5 too! If you’re about to watch the rest of the series, it’s seeming probable that I’ll be updating Books 1/2 here in the next couple days with a few major storyline changes. Your call if you want to wait or just watch now as is!

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I, too, decided to watch through Book 5 first, since the Boba content was the worst and needed the most work.

Figured I’d share a few things I wrote down while watching:

  • At 13:45 there’s a weird fade out. It seems like the scene fading out, cuts off instead of fully fading into the next scene.

  • Garsa Fwip’s “Apologies” line at 18:14 seems kind of awkwardly placed.

  • I personally would love to see Boba’s missile fire at 19:28 removed, it always seemed stupid that he’d fire a shot at such close range. The only one who would probably get hurt from that is Fennec with no armor or shield. This isn’t a huge deal that’s worth changing, just something I’ve always thought.

  • The scene from 20:25-20:33 could use some more work. The way the Gamorrean Guard puts the sword to the assassin’s throat, just to immediately take it away doesn’t seem natural. Also since you are implying the Rancor is already in the pit, I’d add some signs of life, i.e some Rancor growls or breathing when the gate begins to open. You could probably repurpose some of the Rancor’s breathing sounds from this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qd4YGjNSTs

  • The transition at 1:01:56 feels abrupt. I’d fade it out slower if possible.

  • The transition at 1:45:12 felt a little awkward. Jumping to Boba flying through the air in the middle of the fight just seems too sudden after the prior scene. I don’t know how you would be able to fix this considering we never see them come out though. It’d probably work better with a buffer between those scenes, but that would require rearranging other scenes to that part.

Since I was watching this with more of a hawk-eyed view, I found an error that the creators left in during the Rancor fight with the second Scorpenek Droid. The scene at 1:56:51 shows the Rancor tore off one of it’s blaster arms, than at 1:57:00 the Rancor destroys the Scorpenek Droid’s eye. But the following scene at 1:57:15 shows that the Droid has both it’s blasters and it’s eye undamaged. Only for it to revert back to it’s damaged self in the following scene at 1:57:18. Not something that needs to be fixed, just found it funny I never noticed it lol!

All around great job with this! I found this far more enjoyable than the original content. I’ll wait to see you’re newly improved Book 1 and 2 before watching those episodes, but I’m excited to dive into the others!

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Further thoughts:

So, you’re currently exploring having Movie 1 play out as Mando episodes 1,2,6,3. That’s a lovely arc centered on the theme of who Mando is and where his loyalties lie. He’s sent out to find the Child, returns it with hesitation, takes another job that’s morally dubious and really tests his loyalty to bounty hunting, then when he goes to turn that in, his flashback to his own vulnerable youth causes him to rescue the child, forsaking the bounty hunters, but ultimately proves that Mandalorians are his people. He’s now committed to the child.

For movie 2, we’ve got a theme of two ex-Mandalorians/ex-Bounty Hunters trying to find their homes after changes, and almost bumping into each other. We begin with Boba’s flashback to tolerance from the Tuskens, then intercut with Mando finding peace on the wetlands planet. I’d play down some of the Boba flashbacks now, and play up the wetlands - probably including the fight there in this context (where it’s not a bridge between Mando’s next job). Mando is forced to move on, as is Boba, and they nearly meet. But then the following content feels a little too focused on Boba once Mando’s out of the picture, and I felt like the conclusion (Boba and the sarlacc pit) wasn’t super punchy.

BUT, IDEA: What if we keep Mando on Tattoine, using content from episode 9, where he’s looking for other Mandos. That way, Boba’s getting set up with Fennec, getting his ship back, wondering about his armour, while Mando remains in play, meeting Cobb Vanth, looking for other Mandos, fighting a Krayt dragon, and FINDING BOBA’S ARMOUR. That way, the episode can end on Boba spotting Mando, finally setting them on a collision course. With this, you’d need to remove the ‘looking for Mandos to find a Jedi’ plot, but he’s seeking them sensibly enough anyway at this point. Then your third movie can focus on bringing the Imperials back into the conflict, skipping Tattooine.

I’d perhaps structure that as follows:

  • Open on Boba flashback, hand raises through sand, armour stolen, taken in by Tuskens, hunting for water pods, fighting off sand beast, earning respect in the tribe. Cut gaffi training scene. 20 mins elapsed. Cut to-
  • FIVE YEARS LATER -
  • Mando arrives on Sorgan. Meets Cara Dune. Finds lodging with Omera. Peace.
  • Tuskens have taken Boba to scout Pyke train. Boba gets bikes from Tosche station, they raid the train. Boba is induced and given Tusken robes. (Issue: He was wearing shitty rags for five years? Or maybe we just don’t acknowledge the five year cut, and just intercut these without implying they’re at the same time?) This content might need a trim for pacing as it’s another 20 mins - maybe we skip Tosche station?
  • Mando spots raider tracks, trains the people of Sorgan, they defend their new home.
  • Boba threatens the Pykes.
  • Sorgan defense wrap-up and peace.
  • Boba returns to his home to find it burned.
  • Mando finds that he’s still being tracked, realises he has to leave. [Having seen Boba’s people killed, we feel the potential cost if he were to stay.
  • Boba wanders the desert.
  • Mando’s over Tattooine, looking for his people. Meets Pelli Motto. Dialogue suggests “I’m here to find Mandalorians, BUT FIRST I need a job to pay for ship repairs.” Mando episode 5 plays out.
  • Boba discovers Fennec.
  • Mando returns to Pelli, and kicks off Mando episode 9, chasing rumours of Mandalorians.
  • Intercut with Boba and Fennec recovering Boba’s ship, and maybe include the Sarlacc stuff (though it’s a bit weird).
  • Cobb Vanth fills in the details on Boba’s armour’s backstory, gives it to Mando. But Cobb was a false lead, and Mando’s still being pursued.
  • Endings: Boba watches Mando, setting up their conflict. Mando, in space, gets the opportunity from Greef to stop getting pursued. And finally, at night, Boba tells Fennec this episode’s mission statement: “You can’t get far without a tribe.”

Then, just to balance your movie #3, you could potentially replace the removed Ep9 content with Ep12 The Siege from your movie #4, now that Nevarro is liberated? Though that might require the implied timeskip to be preserved.

Just trying to preserve as much as possible whilst maximising the thematic links and finding traditional movie arc structures…

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Dammit, on review of your movie 3, that idea of mine has an issue: Mando in Ep9 has the jetpack, mudhorn mark, and new Grogu basket, all of which he gets in Ep8.

However, watching your movie 3, I was also struck by how much of an ending Ep8 feels like, and how much of a new beginning Ep9 feels like.

So maybe here’s a solution: Split the Boba flashback content across both movie 2 and movie 3, and shift the Ep7/8 content into movie 2.

That way, movie 2 shows Boba and Mando both trying to find new homes (ignore that they’re not chronological tales, they thematically work together), then then they lose those homes (1h) then both characters nearly meet (20m), then Mando’s offered to take the job that’ll free him from pursuit and that plays out (including him getting his mission to get Grogu to the Jedi via finding more Mandos) (1h) including somewhere in there him healing Fennec (10m).

Then, movie 3 begins on Mando on his mission to find more Mandalorians. This is the focus of the movie, and the B-plot is the story of Boba’s armour. Mando gets his direction to Tattooine, where we see Boba and Fennec are still there recovering his ship, and then looking for his armour at the Sarlacc pit. When he accepts it’s not there, reveal Cobb in his armour, and play out the reveal story. Then follow Mando defeating the Krayt dragon and getting the armour, observed by Boba. End on the two frog lady episodes, and Mando finding his people (and striking at the Empire a little in the finale).

This achieves a couple more useful things: Gideon’s presence in movie 2 instead of movie 3, establishing him as the primary villain sooner. And having Boba an active main character from movie 2 onwards also. Further, every movie now actively progresses the Imperial-Mando plotline which seems to be the spine of the show.

I think that’s very strong after your excellent movie 1, which establishes Mando’s character, and would give both movies 2 and 3 a bit better balance and movie-structure pacing.

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I just want to say that I’ve been very impressed so far with what you’ve done with this series.
One thing that strikes me as odd though is that at the end of book 2, he goes back to the sarlaac to try to find his armour and ends up on obliterating it.
Not only does this seem silly but over the top, not to mention he should recall he had the armour when he came out?
Anyway, I’m enjoying it a lot so far and it’s excellent.

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WitchDR said:

I, too, decided to watch through Book 5 first, since the Boba content was the worst and needed the most work.

Figured I’d share a few things I wrote down while watching:

Thank you for the detailed notes, WitchDR! I am currently working on trying out some new plot points for Books 1/2 but will get back to this post again afterwards.

Eddie, lots of great ideas and ponderings that I will get back to thinking through and responding to soon. I do want to first make sure that this initial idea works out well for Book 1, but unifying the themes in later movies like you’re talking about does make sense and I will do a full analysis of everything you wrote later on.

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I just want to say that I’ve been very impressed so far with what you’ve done with this series.
One thing that strikes me as odd though is that at the end of book 2, he goes back to the sarlaac to try to find his armour and ends up on obliterating it.
Not only does this seem silly but over the top, not to mention he should recall he had the armour when he came out?
Anyway, I’m enjoying it a lot so far and it’s excellent.

Thanks, glad you’re enjoying it. I’ve seen a couple people mention they don’t like the sarlacc scene as a whole, but I haven’t personally been persuaded yet on it being out of character for Boba. I don’t think Boba has any memory of the first few minutes/hours outside the pit. He can’t recall getting stripped of the armor so I don’t think it’s out of the question that he would go and look there first. And killing the sarlacc is a classic Mandalorian/Bounty Hunter move I feel. The beast beat him, so he wants revenge and to prove that he is superior. What specifically makes it seem “silly”? I am usually hugely critical of “silliness” in Star Wars but I didn’t feel too bad about the sarlacc sequence initially. Is it great/well directed? No. But is it entirely out of character/disruptive? I haven’t been persuaded of that yet.

As far as progress on Book 1 re-work: Been extra busy and haven’t had as much time to put into it, but I’ve worked through the whole prison break episode now and have it functioning properly in the new story order. Found a good solution for the droid hunter death.

Unfortunately, there aren’t many additional instances available of showing Din thinking about Grogu during this time as it is a very fast paced episode and due to the timeline of armor modifications like Eddie mentions, there are some very real restrictions on which scenes can be reasonably moved around between seasons. I am working on fitting in one more instance of Din looking at the “ball” on his ship as he flies back to Nevarro after the job, and have just begun work on the carrier-flashback sequence that will now change his destiny forever. I really want to nail that scene so it might take a bit to get that working right with the soundtrack and flashbacks.

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After considering it, I can agree with it, and it also gives Fett some personal closure by destroying the Sarlaac.
The movies are a great way to re experience the shows and seeing what you’ve done to make Fett better is really fantastic.

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I’ve watched movies 1-4, and am loving this so far. As promised, some more detailed feedback.

As ever, this is all caveated by me thinking these are absolute great movies as-is, and already my archival versions.

Universal

  • You have an issue with crushed blacks - you’re losing detail in your dark sections at certain points. It’s most noticeable during the lights-off prison break content, night time fireside chats, and on Trask, the Mon Calamari moon. Either this is caused by the standard reason for crushed blacks, or it’s something related to your grading or upscaling.
  • For me, all movies have too many wipe transitions. The show uses a few of them per episode, but that adds up a lot when compiling them into a movie, making them stand out against the usual SW movie format of 0-3ish. I’d review this where possible - even removing ones from the original content if you’re able to make the music around them work smoothly.

Book 1

  • This appears in the original episode too, but IG-11 in his first appearance keeps referring to “said asset” having not mentioned what “said asset” is. It’s almost as if there was a cut line first. Editing that to have him just say “the asset” would fix this.
  • There’s a slightly awkward musical transition before the E-WEB (or whatever cannon) fires before Mando and IG find Grogu for the first time.
  • I wasn’t entirely clear on why Mando doesn’t have the blurrg for the return journey. Was there anything that showed him losing it?
  • Narratively it’s a bit odd that Mando enters the mudhorn cave on his walk back. I thought Smudger had a solution for this where Mando stumbles upon it just outside the cave, but you mention using Smudger’s idea there so you must have considered that. However, you could alternatively use one of the scenes where it just charges in and knocks him down, as a suprise introduction to that fight.
  • You might not need this with your new 1,2,6,3 structure, and there might not be any content here, but seeing the Imperials respond to Mando’s theft of Grogu in some way would be nice if possible.
  • When Mando starts the prison break episode content, you could cut the scenes where Mando shows off the razorcrest to the guy who sends them off on the mission (the guy who owns the station). It’s not vital to cover that “we just need your ship” subplot, instead just getting into the crew introductions. (If any of that dialogue is useful, it can probably be shifted to elsewhere as that segment is quite talky.)
  • I’d still vote for showing Mayfield and the others alive, perhaps before you return from episode 6 to episode 3, to show that this is a guy with morality, before we get into the Grogu’s carrier/Mando’s flashback sequence.
  • Potentially split Kuiil and IG into two scenes at different times in the movie - one where he’s recovered, one where he’s repaired - to help sell time passing.
  • There were a couple of nice shots in episode 2 of Mando admiring his ship, and a nice hero shot before it lifts off, which I think you cut from this movie. I’d keep them - if any movie deserves a ship hero shot, it’s your first.
  • You could cut the references to the Mandalorians needing to leave their culvert here, to make their empty nest a bit more of a darker suprise when they’re lost in your Book 3.

Book 2

  • If including the wetlands planet’s content here, I’d either go all in (and play most of the episode including the raider fight) or absolute minimum, focusing on the character drama. For the latter, I’d consider cutting the Cara Dune fight (you could potentially skip from Mando asking “who’s she?” to some Boba content, then back to Mando and Cara in conversation). I’d also remove the shots of Mando training the wetlanders in use of weapons during the montage if you’re not including the raider fight - if something’s needed in its place to preserve the music there, there must be plenty of passive wetlands shots you could use.
  • This is a silly note, but I love that now Boba gets his vision quest from the powder rather than the lizard, the scene plays out as “Here’s a lizard without context. Anyway, take some drugs.”
  • The first transition from Boba to Din does need a wipe transition, I think, and a little extension to let the moment breathe.
  • There’s a moment where you preserved the original Boba episodes’ ‘fading in and out of the Bacta dream’ graphic. This kind of worked as he was a bit fuzzy headed then, but it might be a bit neater if you can skip those bits.
  • The pacing around the overlap episode could be a little different. At present, there’s more from Boba that could be shifted toward the ‘present day’ and intercut with Mando’s story more. And equally, there’s a point in Mando’s story where the kid bounty hunter disappears, but then we cut very quickly to everyone being back in Mos Pelgo. I’d get some more Boba content (e.g. him and Fennec round the fire?) into that space, to give the others more implied time to travel back to Mos Pelgo. (Those Mos Pelgo scenes happen in the day too - why not have that be the next morning after the fireplace night?)
  • This is more a fault of the original, that it feels a bit weird that Fennec recovers away from the mod parlour, so she’s still out in the desert having apparently been taken to a facility that can repair her. There’s not much that can be done, perhaps, though I might just skip the ‘mod repair’ angle entirely, including removing her showing off her mechanical innards from Mando episode 14 too. (This might conflict with future content if her having cybernetics comes up in future though.)
  • The sarlacc pit to fire conversation wipe felt a little abrupt.
  • See previous notes about shifting some content between movies 1/2/3.

Book 3

  • I’d remove the guy giving Cara money without context. It raises too many questions.
  • Did you remove the expanded aspect ratio stuff from Mando episode 9 versus the Krayt Dragon? I think that was a lovely artistic touch, I’d preserve it if you could.
  • As much as I enjoyed it the first time round, for pacing and tension, I’d avoid the humorous scout scene conversation as much as possible. We need to feel that Din’s crew and Grogu need rescuing, so we need to get to IG doing both.
  • I could go for even more removal of Din not liking droids. It doesn’t serve much purpose.
  • With the move of the foundling flashback to Book 1, you can remove more of its references here.
  • I liked what you did throughout to hide Din’s face, but in that case, I’d not even tease it here. Watching the original, I felt like you could easily cut around having Mando need IG to take his helmet off, and just cut to a later point in the sewers when they’re all back together.
  • In the culvert, Cara has sensible dialogue saying “hurry up, we’re pursued by Imperials!” Problem is, it comes quite late in the conversation - I’d shift it to earlier in their conversation if possible.
  • The waving baby joke felt a little awkward, I’d remove that if possible.
  • The content from episode 8 ends on very ‘final’ feeling music - I’d soften this moment if possible. (Also see my earlier note about potentially moving eps 7/8 to Book 2, and opening Book 3 on episode 9.)
  • Ideally we cut the unnecessary Abyssian, which feels like too much of a reintroduction to Mando. If you do restructure these, You might be able to cut him out entirely for the opening of a Book 3 which starts here, and just assume Mando picked up a rumour. (I think in early dialogue he says “I heard there was a Mandalorian round here” or something.)
  • I found the Krayt dragon swimming through town to be a bit odd. Wouldn’t the infrastructure built on the sand collapse? I wonder if the earthquake would be sufficient, only revealing the beast’s scale when they go to attack it.
  • I’d cut the scene where Mando’s bike gets destroyed by some random pirates. Instead you could just show him travelling homeward, then cut to Mando walking with his pack and kit when he’s in town, presumably after having parked it. It didn’t quite track for me that it was set up by Boba - I’d stick with the original shot sequence for the Boba reveal.
  • I think Smudger created an alternative landing on Trask which avoided a lot of the damage to the ship, which could smooth that out for you - especially since we don’t now have an obvious cause for the damage.

Book 4

  • Very little to say here. Only real issue for me was the inclusion of episode 12. I like the episode well enough, but I think it’s not necessary and it gets in the way here. Whilst the reveal of the cloning facility is cool, it doesn’t tell us anything new (other content this movie tells us about Pershing’s work and wanting Grogu as a ‘donor’.), it has a few too many moments of goofy humour as part of the core plotline (so they’re uncuttable), and some of the action is a little weird too (the vehicle dropping from a massive height). In this context, it causes the movie (centered on getting Grogu to the Jedi, as set up by the last episode) it just slows us down. I think opening on Mando having arrived at Calodan, where he was sent at the end of Book 3, would be the stronger start. And hey, if people want this content, they can just watch the original episode in between both of your movies.
  • You could also, if you wanted to, include some of the ‘welcome to new Nevarro’ scenes with Greef and Cara, preceding the later scenes where Mando comes to recruit Cara.
  • Oh, and the tracker scene could come at the end of your previous movie now, since that features an Imperial presence.
  • You could probably also skip Cara being deputised, since she’s not going to appear again so that plotline won’t go anywhere. Now, she’s able to buy Mayfeld’s time through unknown (but not unimaginable) means, and then they cheekily don’t return him to the New Republic (which she’s no longer associated with).
  • Oh, and your v3 of Book 4 doesn’t finish playing the credits before the file ends - so I’m not sure if you include the Boba-on-the-throne stinger or not, though I’d recommend it here.
  • The Grogu with the wires scene is cute, but I felt like it felt a little chopped into place here.
  • I could have done with at least a little hint as to why Ahsoka is on Korvus, at least something to imply it’s deliberate to her and not just hanging out.
  • I do think your cuts to not show Din’s face work, though it comes off as quite deliberate direction that the director is now trying to avoid showing it to the audience, which took me out a little. I don’t know if this scene’s dialogue can be tightened to avoid some of the more ‘deliberate’/awkward shots? On the flipside, having Mando ‘naked’ would add to his vulnerability here, and therefore the tension of the scene.

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EddieDean said:

I’ve watched movies 1-4, and am loving this so far. As promised, some more detailed feedback.

As ever, this is all caveated by me thinking these are absolute great movies as-is, and already my archival versions.

Wonderful feedback, Eddie. We both know that is an editor’s dream to receive so I am very thankful for your time there. Reading through that, I definitely plan to take another pass on the series as a whole and maybe drop a full-on v2 at some point. However, as that looks like another 30+ hour project to complete, I find myself at a bit of a crossroads here…

The current v1 release as-is works well. It’s a solid 8/10 for what it could possibly be, so I’m happy to have it out since it’s been brewing since early summer, and I even started working on it personally in 2021. Reading so much feedback, considering unifying the themes a bit better and moving whole episodes around and such, well… I just saw that it looks like Mando Season 3 is on pace for a February 2023 release. I guarantee watching that will influence what I can do with The Way of Mandalore as a whole. Understanding more of where they plan to take Boba/Din’s characters will hugely change the origin stories I plan to rework. I could crank out a v2 by the end of the month/December based on the feedback, then do another pass for a v3 release in Spring '23 after Season 3 wraps up… But if things in the soon releasing Season 3 completely alter what I’m about to do in v2, well, that’s no fun to do all that work and then change it all up again.

My main purpose for the re-edit was to give people a “better”, more concise & enjoyable way to rewatch before Season 3. As it looks like that is coming sooner than I thought, I don’t want to get crushed in crunch time on my other projects that also need released before the next season. I’m currently leaning towards taking a pause on this one for a few months, as I do need to get my Bad Batch project done by the end of the year, and have my Kenobi ready to go in January as well. I think that investing in this v2 heavily again right now will make those other tasks impossible to complete in time. Plus, after spending so much time making this whole series over the past few months, a change of source material is refreshing to keep me motivated.

How do people feel about that? Am I concerned about Season 3 for nothing? Should I grind out a v2 + v3 or just wait for one big update since so much could change in February?

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Oh, you’ve absolutely achieved your goals here. The big thing was improving the Boba content and getting it chronological, then all your lovely ‘invisible’ universal changes like tightening character and tightening combat have been excellent. Going through your changelog, I agree with every nip and tuck. It’s solid.

So there isn’t a rush on this. I doubt season 3 will do anything that requires unpicking here, since the show hits the core beats, but either way, it’s not pressing.

However, I’ve got a big appetite to keep thinking on this for now - I might find the time to realise some of my more radical ideas for you, such as the wetlands/Boba flashback intercutting, so we all can at least get a feel for them. I’ll produce some rough cuts.

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Very excited to check this out!!! Thank you for taking the time to do this

Can you please send me a link , thank you

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Right, I’ve just watched

Book 5

So here’s some feedback!

Firstly, a bit of a review. This was absolutely brilliant. People had a lot of issues with the Boba show, and your edit fixes them immensely. The mods are minimised, the characterisation and action is way tighter, it’s fantastic. And as much as the flashback content was cool, focusing on the present day keeps the Boba story tight and focused. (Plus, mixing flashbacks with earlier Mando content as you have in other movies works best.) If you wanted a movie version fixing all of those things as your ‘Mando season 2.5’, this is the one. The content from the original episode 7 in particular was impeccable, so this whole thing just ends on a real high. So like your other movies already for me, this is archival.

Onwards to considerations! I’ve also reviewed all of the original episodes in parallel. And none of these are vital - the movie absolutely works excellently as it stands.

  • I do think the scene of Boba taking Bib Fortuna’s throne works better as the previous movie’s stinger than this movie’s opening. It just has the feeling of a “tune in next season”. I’d potentially still start on a flashback, but you have other options, such as Fennec and Boba’s fireside chat where he talks about wanting to build a house, or even a little ‘previously on’ supercut.
  • Opening on Boba already respected in the town was a great move, though the prior scene mentions that people are “lined up” to see Boba, which we don’t then see as he’s walking the street. I don’t know if there’s some other content showing respect you could play prior to the street walk, or perhaps that line just needs cut, but it felt a little bit like “oh, we’re not seeing that then”. You definitely did the right thing to use the original line up content at the end though, so I wouldn’t revert that.
  • I really enjoyed your cut to the would-be assassin in the street. Knocks a guy to the floor then we cut to him in Boba’s palace. However, I don’t know if the palace scene is necessary - there’s no key content there that couldn’t be implied by just cutting to them frog marching him to the mayor, and you’d skip the weird implication that they dropped him into the rancor pit and he somehow didn’t die (since we see later that he does currently have a rancor). That scene’s also a bit odd since Boba says the prisoner needs his head, but then drops him into the pit, which isn’t specifically a head-removing act.
  • There’s a good line from Fennec at 03:00 in episode s01e03, “The mayor has no power, somebody else is behind that play.” Could be useful in a few locations in your movie to emphasise that it all links back to the Pykes.
  • I really liked how you handled the mods throughout. Absolutely minimal, and they were played in a way where Boba kind of got them because he was desperate but also in a way that he wasn’t entirely taking them seriously. I think everyone assuming they’re pretty crap (because they look like shit) and then having them turn out to be passable in the final fight makes them way more acceptable than badass teenagers who Boba actually respects from the beginning. To that end though, I think a better placement for them would be AFTER the other local crime lords agree to neutrality but no support. That way, he has no good options for allies, so literally just picks up these goofy looking kids off the street to act as local lookouts and little more. The only thing you’d have to cut to achieve this is the mod who appears on the phone when the Pykes arrive in force, which I think you could do without comfortably. It lines up neatly with your intentions, I think.
  • The first cut from Boba to Mando didn’t feel ‘heavy’ enough, the music didn’t really carry the transition there. Maybe adding Mando’s theme over the transition is the right move here. It also felt a bit weird placed as the answer to the question “if not us, then who?”, since that isn’t really the role Mando plays… it’s supposed to be rhetorical and imply that, yes, it should be Boba.
  • That said, I’m not sure if we really need that bounty hunting scene, though I appreciate it’s where Mando gets the leg wound. But perhaps then we don’t need the scene where he turns it in - since we’re cutting away to Boba maybe he turns it in offscreen, and then we pick back up with him on the same location heading to his culvert.
  • The focus on Garsa’s Sanctuary instead of anything with the Twins was great. I felt a little like we ducked in and out of Garsa’s a little too frequently, but I think a slightly modified intercutting with Mando’s content just to pace those visits out a little more might remedy that nicely, as it’s clearly a place that’s good for connecting to the pulse of the town.
  • Speaking of which then, there were a couple of places where I felt we spent a little too long on Mando before cutting back. The scene where Mando talks to the Armorer and then they forge the spear into Grogu’s armour could have been two scenes, letting us cut back to Boba sooner.
  • I’d reintroduce the first scene of Cobb, from s01e06. It gives good context on what the Pykes are actually doing, and also explains why he draws their ire. Early-middle of the movie feels about right to me.
  • I loved how you used the rancor, but I think we need to explain to the audience that this is an all-new one after Jabba’s original was killed in ROTJ. Just a line where he references it would be useful. Perhaps just using a fuller version of the assassin-rancor scene, without revealing that there is none, but having Fennec call it the “new” rancor? [audio: “n” + “you” if you can’t find “new”, and “ny” from “any” might help smooth that too.] I agree with your cutting of the training scene though, since Mandalorians both in the lore and in the TV shows are already shown to have great beast taming skill, so the suprise reveal near the end of the movie works best this way.
  • I don’t think we need to show the armorer giving Mando Grogu’s chainmail wrapped in cloth, since it’s clear that he’s having something forged “what shall we forge…?” I also don’t think we need to see Mando getting on the space bus (him arriving on Tattooine on one is plenty), but that said, there’s nothing weak about the scene, it is kind of fascinating. I’m mostly presenting these just for an extra consideration pass.
  • I’m not sure if it’s because you cut something from the dialogue, but I found Viszla’s anger in his fight with Mando to be a bit out of left field. It didn’t seem super well justified, and as it stands it would feel more appropriate if he was just seeking to test himself honourably and respecfully.
  • I’m not sure if we need the chase between the mods and majordomo - perhaps majordomo just successfully does a runner and the main characters work out why? Not sure if that’d work though. Maybe even more trims to the chase could work, as if the mods have set up an ambush in anticipation? Or maybe we cut the scene very early and a little differently, to imply that Boba sees the Mayor is gone before the majordomo tries to escape, implying they keep him captured? Or, just use his dialogue “The mayor’s gone, he’s working with the Pykes” as he’s standing during that discussion, but when we don’t see his face, and imply he stuck around with Boba after that, either under duress or not.
  • I’d maybe re-add the comments between Fennec and Mando about Boba having weak forces - I think it is relevant to the final fight (and also emphasises how they don’t expect much from the mods, as the audience also don’t.)
  • The explosion at Garsa’s could have done with more tense music before it happened, if possible. The moment felt just a little too chill for the sudden explosion. I know the explosion is intended as a suprise, but I’d have added just a hint of “something’s not right”.
  • I’d split between the explosion at Garsa’s and Boba and Fennec showing up. We cut away to a few other plots around this time, I’m sure something can fit into this slot to let it breathe.
  • I did think we spent too long rebuilding the N1 starfighter, testing it, and dealing with the Republic. In context, this all slowed us down from the meat of the episode. It’s all nice content but for a movie it felt like too much distraction for me.
  • When the crew show up at Garsa’s bombed-out place for the second time (weird that they go in and out twice too, I thought…) I’m not sure if you made a couple of cuts but this was the only scene which felt a little edited. When Mando draws the gun, and when Cad Bane shows up, in particular.
  • Smudger had a good idea and used Fennec’s “Hello Bane” and Bane’s “Fennec Shand” from their meeting in the Bad Batch as Fennec leaves the bombed sanctuary.
  • Finally, a slightly separate thing. Ending on an extended epilogue of Luke did kind of work fine (though I might have wrapped up all of the Boba stuff with the new respect before catching up with Mando at all). And in fact, now I think about it, the earlier Luke moment kind of distracted from the Boba focus earlier in the movie too. However, maybe this movie doesn’t want the Luke/Grogu/Mando content at all? Maybe you release just an intermission, call it Book 5.5, for this? (As an even more separate thing, I don’t think Mando episode 12 fits in either the preceding or following movie either, so I’d have that as intermission 3.5 too.) I appreciate that’s a little odd, making this five movies and two intermissions, but I think ultimately it gives a balanced viewing experience where the movies get to really excel with movie pacing, but a couple of short bitesize episodes complete the story. That said, it does totally work as is.

As before, I’ve gone through your changelog and love every other change you made. LOADS of extremely smart stuff.

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I just finished with book 5, and I must say you did an excellent job combining both mandalorians, I especially liked how you tighten up the final battle and removed the child.
One thing I think needs some work, especially if you want him closer to the legends version, is to trim some of his dialog forcing the child to choose.
Luke would never close the door on a student nor forbid attachment, especially since it was his own attachment to his father that redeemed him.
Otherwise it’s great work.

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First off just want to say thank you for the links, very much appreciated.

Second off amazing work Acbagel, absaloutley love these and they are definitely my go to for Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett. Once again some amazing work my friend, I highly recommend these to anyone who has not watched them yet and to check out Acbagels ST edits.

Thanks once again.

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This is amazing work. I will only be watching these versions in future

Has anyone made posters for each book?

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Hello,

I’ve finally finished up watching through your edits - Super nice. Thanks Acbagel for the incredible amount of work you’ve put into these. I really enjoyed the experience of seeing Mando and book of Boba Fett with fresh eyes. Boba’s revised characterisation in particular is about as well done as it can be with the source material. Less of the sad sack and more of the taciturn bad ass! The way you’ve tightened up Mando without losing any of the main beats is very well handled too.

A few comments from my side on the edits. Others have gone into lots of excellent detail so here’s just a few observations. (I haven’t watched the standard versions in a while so some of this might not be possible…!)

Book 1.
I miss a little bit of the Razorcrest from the start. If there’s a way to put in one of the killer shots of it from the ice planet, without the monster?

30;57 did the shot of the tracking fob on the ground get changed / stretched - looks weirdly photoshopped / fake somehow like its not sitting on the ground.

1:16.30 I feel like a beat longer on Cara dune after the grogu bowl shot would help, its a bit too abrupt a cut for the moment to land.

1:19. The conversation with Mando and the two villagers talks about them needing to pay him for a job. then they hang out at the village and there’s no mention of the job again, just a montage of them training for… something? not sure how better to fix it with what’s available tho, except cutting the montage and the guys saying ‘we’ve got money’ etc.

Book 2
Opening - I always felt that the waking up and exiting the Sarlacc pit was too abrupt. is there any way that one or two heavily processed shots from return of the Jedi can go in here as Boba is semi conscious in the sarlacc? he’s flashing back to childhood, but not to how he actually got there which seems a shame. the shots of him falling in, with no audio only music, something that could feel like POV shots of the battle? could any wide shots of the wrecked sail barge /sarlacc pit from later be inserted to extend the scene? big ask.

0:50. the cutting from Bobas (excellent) storyline to Mandos feels too abrupt and confusing. takes a while to click in to what’s going on. Can we somehow fade into Mando and Grogu having a calmer moment before the action starts?

1:22. I feel like it would help to put back in the shots of Boba finding and crouching down beside fennec before she wakes up by the fire. They can be processed to be coming in and of focus to lead into the out of focus fireside Fennec POV shot. Sort of gives a little bit more of Fennecs (groggy) POV of someone finding her.

1:26. the day leading into night of Boba and Fennic scoping out the palace almost works, but needs a dusk establishing shot of the palace in the middle to suggest time passing and them watching for the day. its a bit abrupt the way it cuts from day to night. or perhaps cut the daytime watching entirely. Logic wise, why would they watch all day then say ‘let’s take a closer look’ and send in the drone?

1:32. I personally would cut the ratchcatcher / kitchen stuff entirely… its a bit cringe… have them come in, react to and kill OOM-9 and the chef then cut to 1:32.27 shot ‘Lets go’

1:42. can bobas grunting be cut and wind noise foley’d over it as he pulls himself out the sarlacc and up the rope… its a bit old man…!

Will write some comments on 3,4 and 5 when I get time gotta run now.

with regards the discussion above about waiting until season 3 before making another round of edits / tweaks - I think that’s a wise idea. time away will also help you see it with fresh eyes!

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Can you please resend me the link for the Books, thank you sooo much, awesome work