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The Mandalorian - Season One - * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 10

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‘Mando isn’t a big fan of Flash Gordon apparently’:-

https://twitter.com/EscoBlades/status/1201640212927000576 (with video and audio)

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I find that answer vague and unconvincing. Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? And say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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So with having Disney+, I’ve finally been able to work on watching the last season and a half of Rebels, now I’m wondering why in The Manadalorian is everyone so obsessed with keeping their helmets on? No one seems to do that in TCW or Rebels.

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My current headcanon is the Mando group we’re following in The Mandalorian is a particularly fanatical group, and most Mandos in the Galaxy don’t follow all their ancient traditions so slavishly.

I’m wondering if the main character will come across another Mando group later in the season/series that freely removes their helmets and loosens up on this, which would then be the first time we see Pascal’s face on the show.

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This seems to be a different faction of Mandalorians than the ones we have seen before. Perhaps they still follow the ancient traditions of Mandalore whereas the majority of Mandos, like the ones from Clone Wars and Rebels, have become more progressive over the centuries. In a conversation with a friend I joking referred to the Mando’s tribe as “The Amish of Mandalorians”.

Comparing Mandalorians to Christians seems like a weird comparison, but I think it could help get the point across.

The New Mandalorians like Satine Kryze and her pacifist faction would be like modern secular Christianity, which fought against the traditions of Mandalore, which would be like your typical conservative Christian beliefs (gay marriage, pro-life vs pro-choice, etc.).
Death Watch would be like radical Christian extremists, fighting to preserve their traditions but going overboard with it. Their attempted coup in the Clone Wars could be compared to Gilead from The Handmaid’s Tale.
The Tribe from The Mandalorian might be a decent comparison to Old Order Amish, who still live and practice older Christian traditions in isolation and breaking those traditions could result in exile or ostracism, beliefs which might seem excessive to even the modern conservative Christian (Clan Wren and the other Clans we see in Rebels as an example, since they seem to remove their helmets without issue, but still follow their traditions more-so than Satine’s faction did).

At first I thought The Tribe’s fundamentalist beliefs might’ve been a reaction to the possible failed rebellion that Rebels was setting up, but in Chapter 4, Mando said he had not shown anyone his face since he was adopted by The Tribe, so their practices would predate the Empire. I could be totally off-base, but the idea of varying “denominations” of Mandalorians coexisting would be pretty interesting to me and make them seem more like a living, fluid culture rather than a two-dimensional “warrior race”.

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I imagine these will be selling well - not sure about that delivery / pickup date for them though…

^ ‘The Star Wars Child 11 Plush’

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Star-Wars-The-Child-11-Plush/863451787 - $24.99 for the 11" plush toy
 

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I find that answer vague and unconvincing. Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? And say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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^ Ha! I want a lot!

I think a lot more toys with The Child to be released 😃 And more Mandalorian products too.

R4

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RogueLeader said:

This seems to be a different faction of Mandalorians than the ones we have seen before. Perhaps they still follow the ancient traditions of Mandalore whereas the majority of Mandos, like the ones from Clone Wars and Rebels, have become more progressive over the centuries. In a conversation with a friend I joking referred to the Mando’s tribe as “The Amish of Mandalorians”.

Comparing Mandalorians to Christians seems like a weird comparison, but I think it could help get the point across.

The New Mandalorians like Satine Kryze and her pacifist faction would be like modern secular Christianity, which fought against the traditions of Mandalore, which would be like your typical conservative Christian beliefs (gay marriage, pro-life vs pro-choice, etc.).
Death Watch would be like radical Christian extremists, fighting to preserve their traditions but going overboard with it. Their attempted coup in the Clone Wars could be compared to Gilead from The Handmaid’s Tale.
The Tribe from The Mandalorian might be a decent comparison to Old Order Amish, who still live and practice older Christian traditions in isolation and breaking those traditions could result in exile or ostracism, beliefs which might seem excessive to even the modern conservative Christian (Clan Wren and the other Clans we see in Rebels as an example, since they seem to remove their helmets without issue, but still follow their traditions more-so than Satine’s faction did).

At first I thought The Tribe’s fundamentalist beliefs might’ve been a reaction to the possible failed rebellion that Rebels was setting up, but in Chapter 4, Mando said he had not shown anyone his face since he was adopted by The Tribe, so their practices would predate the Empire. I could be totally off-base, but the idea of varying “denominations” of Mandalorians coexisting would be pretty interesting to me and make them seem more like a living, fluid culture rather than a two-dimensional “warrior race”.

I felt like it is being hinted that ‘the purge’ is something that happened to the Mandalorians during imperial rule that meant that they were pushed underground. The ultra-strict culture that our Mando is part of is just the result of the socio-cultural changes post-purge.

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A boom mic entering the shot is not really the same as a coffee cup being left on set.

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Spottyfriend said:

RogueLeader said:

This seems to be a different faction of Mandalorians than the ones we have seen before. Perhaps they still follow the ancient traditions of Mandalore whereas the majority of Mandos, like the ones from Clone Wars and Rebels, have become more progressive over the centuries. In a conversation with a friend I joking referred to the Mando’s tribe as “The Amish of Mandalorians”.

Comparing Mandalorians to Christians seems like a weird comparison, but I think it could help get the point across.

The New Mandalorians like Satine Kryze and her pacifist faction would be like modern secular Christianity, which fought against the traditions of Mandalore, which would be like your typical conservative Christian beliefs (gay marriage, pro-life vs pro-choice, etc.).
Death Watch would be like radical Christian extremists, fighting to preserve their traditions but going overboard with it. Their attempted coup in the Clone Wars could be compared to Gilead from The Handmaid’s Tale.
The Tribe from The Mandalorian might be a decent comparison to Old Order Amish, who still live and practice older Christian traditions in isolation and breaking those traditions could result in exile or ostracism, beliefs which might seem excessive to even the modern conservative Christian (Clan Wren and the other Clans we see in Rebels as an example, since they seem to remove their helmets without issue, but still follow their traditions more-so than Satine’s faction did).

At first I thought The Tribe’s fundamentalist beliefs might’ve been a reaction to the possible failed rebellion that Rebels was setting up, but in Chapter 4, Mando said he had not shown anyone his face since he was adopted by The Tribe, so their practices would predate the Empire. I could be totally off-base, but the idea of varying “denominations” of Mandalorians coexisting would be pretty interesting to me and make them seem more like a living, fluid culture rather than a two-dimensional “warrior race”.

I felt like it is being hinted that ‘the purge’ is something that happened to the Mandalorians during imperial rule that meant that they were pushed underground. The ultra-strict culture that our Mando is part of is just the result of the socio-cultural changes post-purge.

That’s what I thought at first, but Mando said no one has seen his face since he was adopted by the clan, which would’ve been during the Clone Wars. It’s possible the Tribe was pushed underground as a result of the Empire’s purge, but some of their more fundamentalist practices seem to pre-date that event.

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timdiggerm said:

A boom mic entering the shot is not really the same as a coffee cup being left on set.

It’s also something that should never happen outside no budget straight to video movies.

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Episode 5 thoughts:

-Tatooine!
-Cool to see some actual plates from ANH, but they might have overdone it.
-Amy Sedaris?!
-The other bounty hunter’s characterization was a bit much. I get that we’re not supposed to like him, but he was still enough of a dopey caricature that it took me out of it
-Did the Tusken Raiders look a little off to anyone else? I think they were too clean or something.
-Would have liked for Ming Na Wen to stick around longer, but alas. I honestly wish hers and Gina Carano’s roles were reversed.
-Are we supposed to think that might be Boba Fett at the very end? I didn’t get a great look at the shoes, but the spur sound effects certainly suggest it. With Filoni, a detail like that might be misdirection, but it’s certainly not coincidental.

On the whole, the same things that have been frustrating me all season continued to do so in this episode, but they were offset a fair bit by the fun of hanging out on Tatooine in live action for the first time in 14 years.

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Sifo Dyas said:

… it is only about fan-service.

  1. Tatooine again …
    All Disney’s non-creative team does …

I rest my case.

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Was very happy to see Tatooine/Mos Eisley treated to match the OOT and not the SE. No evidence of the expanded, busy spaceport we’ve seen since 1997 - that was 100% the sparse backwater of 1977.

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I love that they even nailed the antennas on top of the buildings. That’s a detail that gets missed a lot when depicting Tatooine.

The only little detail that they didn’t cover that would have sent me over the moon is if there had been a jerba wandering around.

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Was I the only one who felt like this one was way off? Early on I was thinking the tone and style was kind of goofy and low rent in a way that reminded me of the animated shows, so I figured it must be Filoni (sure enough was), no offense to him or those shows. I didn’t think Sedaris did a particularly good job and just kind of felt out of place, and was mixed on baby Bobby Cannavale. I also thought they were about a step away from taking the Tatooine winks a little too far, and the tusken outfits seemed straight out of a comic convention. Anyway, point being, it was my least favorite so far.

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Was very happy to see Tatooine/Mos Eisley treated to match the OOT and not the SE. No evidence of the expanded, busy spaceport we’ve seen since 1997 - that was 100% the sparse backwater of 1977.

Well I hate to say it but I think it’s supposed to seem like a ghost town in a way that contrasts what we saw before. I mean just look at the cantina.

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Someone on Reddit pointed out that there’s no blaster damage on Han’s side of the booth, which they took to be a Han Shot First thing. Could just as easily have been repaired, though.

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Well I hate to say it but I think it’s supposed to seem like a ghost town in a way that contrasts what we saw before. I mean just look at the cantina.

Things are so bad they even let droids work in there now.

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DominicCobb said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Was very happy to see Tatooine/Mos Eisley treated to match the OOT and not the SE. No evidence of the expanded, busy spaceport we’ve seen since 1997 - that was 100% the sparse backwater of 1977.

Well I hate to say it but I think it’s supposed to seem like a ghost town in a way that contrasts what we saw before. I mean just look at the cantina.

Yes, but we didn’t see the huge, wide streets of the SE devoid of people - we saw the same cramped alleyways of the OOT instead. I didn’t mean “sparse backwater” to mean “devoid of people” so much as I meant it as a description of the town, and to me, the episode is in line with the OOT version, but with fewer inhabitants.

I agree that it was one of the weaker episodes, though. Ming Na was wasted.

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ChainsawAsh said:

DominicCobb said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Was very happy to see Tatooine/Mos Eisley treated to match the OOT and not the SE. No evidence of the expanded, busy spaceport we’ve seen since 1997 - that was 100% the sparse backwater of 1977.

Well I hate to say it but I think it’s supposed to seem like a ghost town in a way that contrasts what we saw before. I mean just look at the cantina.

Yes, but we didn’t see the huge, wide streets of the SE devoid of people - we saw the same cramped alleyways of the OOT instead. I didn’t mean “sparse backwater” to mean “devoid of people” so much as I meant it as a description of the town, and to me, the episode is in line with the OOT version, but with fewer inhabitants.

Fair enough, you’re not wrong about that.

I agree that it was one of the weaker episodes, though. Ming Na was wasted.

I’m hoping the tease at the end means there’s some way she might not be dead.

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It did feel more like OOT Mos Eisley but they did include that tall SE building in the background.

And yeah, I really hope they bring back Ming-Na.

Help finish ROTJ: Revisited!

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DominicCobb said:

Was I the only one who felt like this one was way off? Early on I was thinking the tone and style was kind of goofy and low rent in a way that reminded me of the animated shows, so I figured it must be Filoni (sure enough was), no offense to him or those shows. I didn’t think Sedaris did a particularly good job and just kind of felt out of place, and was mixed on baby Bobby Cannavale. I also thought they were about a step away from taking the Tatooine winks a little too far, and the tusken outfits seemed straight out of a comic convention. Anyway, point being, it was my least favorite so far.

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Was very happy to see Tatooine/Mos Eisley treated to match the OOT and not the SE. No evidence of the expanded, busy spaceport we’ve seen since 1997 - that was 100% the sparse backwater of 1977.

Well I hate to say it but I think it’s supposed to seem like a ghost town in a way that contrasts what we saw before. I mean just look at the cantina.

Filoni is just not a director. I wish they would get some solid storytellers lined up for future episodes, because the series has potential. Actually Rian Johnson would be one of the first guys I would call, even though I didn’t like TLJ. He would be perfect. Also Deborah Chow did a good job with episode 3, and that’s the only one I’ve really enjoyed so far, although part two wasn’t too bad.

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas

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I liked 5 more than 4. Though I was skeptical on her first appearance, by the end I thought Sedaris was great. Same goes for the dopey idiot of a wannabe bounty hunter.

But yeah, agree that it’s probably Fett. I am simultaneously rolling my eyes and intrigued.

As for the Raiders, I think their respirators were all wrong?