The Mandalorian - Season 3: Complete Edition | A brand-new Season 3 forged from The Mandalorian and BoBF [ON HOLD] — Page 2

Also, I’m debating on renaming Chapter 23 to “The Tribes.” Since the recruiting of the Nite-Owls and meeting the survivors on Mandalore’s surface now happen in the same chapter, and since the Imperial threat isn’t part of the chapter’s plot until the very end, the chapter really feels more focused on the reuniting of the Mandalorian tribes to me.

Also, while I like the allegory the original title had with the Twelve Spies, it obviously was too obscure for most people to pick up on and appreciate, hence all of the “Armorer/Axe Woves/etc. is the spy!!!” debate when the original episode came out. Plus I’m doing biblical allegory in the last chapter’s title anyways, so that quota is still fulfilled.

It’s a minor thing, but I wanted to share my thought process regardless!

g00b said:

I wonder if for Chapter 21 if it could be edited to make Carson holocall instead of travel to coruscant.

With him planet hoping back and forth it kind of removes tension because Nevarro would have been completely destroyed in that time.

It wouldn’t be perfect because he still travels to Mando and Mando then to Nevarro but it would be better in my opinion.

Not sure if it’s possible with the shots you’ve got to work with but thought it was worth putting the idea out there.

I agree that the tension doesn’t build super effectively, but I don’t know how feasible making a holocall scene would be.

While Nevarro would be destroyed in the time it takes Carson to reach Coruscant, the pirates’ goal is to plunder and pillage, not destroy, so I feel like at least that part isn’t something to worry about.

I’d like to see if I can imply some greater passage of time for the events on Nevarro, to hopefully help with that tension issue. Like showing Greef’s camp at night, and then the next scene on Nevarro is at day showing that they’ve been exiled for a while.

captcold0 said:

What video quality will you be working with? At least 1080p, I assume.

The final release will be in 4K!

Also, where will you be uploading the finished products?

I haven’t figured that out quite yet; likely just a file-sharing site like Google Drive or MEGA.

All in all, a really solid idea! I look forward to see what you put together.

Thank you thank you!

captcold0 said:

When can Chapter 17 be expected?
I know this project is HUGE undertaking, but I can’t help but be excited about what you put together.

I can’t make any commitments to a release schedule right now unfortunately. It’s finals season for me, so this project won’t be a priority for at least a couple more weeks. After that, I should be able to work more regularly on it. Hope that helps!

This sounds perfect! Working BoBF in as a subplot of Mando’s story feels a lot more balanced than how it ended up being presented, and I’m intrigued to see how Grogu being missing is accomplished. Definitely feel like more time apart will be more impactful. Out of curiosity, how much of Boba Fett’s story will be included? Do we see his flashbacks, or is it just Din’s interactions with him?

Also, and this would require some more VFX work than may be possible, but with Grogu out of the picture, maybe Din gets R5 from the get go of having the N1? Would be a bit difficult to pull off, but would spare a return trip to Peli’s.

Lastly, are the Plazir and Pershing stories cut down? I imagine that episode with both of them would have to be quite hefty.

Really excited to see where this goes! As another full time student, best of luck with your endeavors! Finals will be kicking our asses haha.

TBOBF was originally gonna be a subplot in Mando season 3 but then became it’s own show. That’s why everything so disorganized and messy.

losthead said:

This sounds perfect! Working BoBF in as a subplot of Mando’s story feels a lot more balanced than how it ended up being presented, and I’m intrigued to see how Grogu being missing is accomplished. Definitely feel like more time apart will be more impactful. Out of curiosity, how much of Boba Fett’s story will be included? Do we see his flashbacks, or is it just Din’s interactions with him?

Just Din’s ineractions; Boba’s basically functioning as a guest star like last season. Season 2’s post-credits sets this up fine as-is, so I don’t feel like I really need to include much else. Boba’s rise to power is now simply implied with the passage of time (which, given how it actually went down in BoBF, I’m ok with not seeing).

Also, and this would require some more VFX work than may be possible, but with Grogu out of the picture, maybe Din gets R5 from the get go of having the N1? Would be a bit difficult to pull off, but would spare a return trip to Peli’s.

This is something I was considering, but the problem is that Din’s trip to Nevarro sets up a lot of plot threads (Greef offering Din land/a home, IG-11/12’s return, the pirates). The only one of these I can probably get rid of without missing much is the pirates, but the Anzellans only appearing in the penultimate episode with a brand new mech for no reason doesn’t feel great. And the promise of land is both the motivation for the Mandalorians taking action against the pirates and setup for where Din ends up at the end of the season.

I agree that him going back to Peli’s feels strange, but I don’t think there’s much I can do. If you have any ideas let me know!

Lastly, are the Plazir and Pershing stories cut down? I imagine that episode with both of them would have to be quite hefty.

Yes, that’s the goal! I haven’t made a rough cut of that episode yet, but based on my notes it should be pretty easy to condense.

Really excited to see where this goes! As another full time student, best of luck with your endeavors! Finals will be kicking our asses haha.

Oh yes! Can’t stop the academic grind.

ildiem said:

This is something I was considering, but the problem is that Din’s trip to Nevarro sets up a lot of plot threads (Greef offering Din land/a home, IG-11/12’s return, the pirates). The only one of these I can probably get rid of without missing much is the pirates, but the Anzellans only appearing in the penultimate episode with a brand new mech for no reason doesn’t feel great. And the promise of land is both the motivation for the Mandalorians taking action against the pirates and setup for where Din ends up at the end of the season.

I agree that him going back to Peli’s feels strange, but I don’t think there’s much I can do. If you have any ideas let me know!

That’s true, the IG-11 setup is pretty essential. Maybe there’s a way that Din could take the commercial vessel to Nevarro? Then he could mention to Greef that he’s looking for a replacement for the Razorcrest as well. Not sure how feasible it is, and at the end of the day not a huge issue, but interesting to think about.

Also, I know you mentioned AI voices, but I do know that Emily Swallow and Katee Sackhoff have Cameos for relatively cheap, that may be a viable source of lines for their characters.

losthead said:
That’s true, the IG-11 setup is pretty essential. Maybe there’s a way that Din could take the commercial vessel to Nevarro? Then he could mention to Greef that he’s looking for a replacement for the Razorcrest as well. Not sure how feasible it is, and at the end of the day not a huge issue, but interesting to think about.

I actually really like this idea. I’m still pretty attached to having Din go to Bo-Katan before preparing to go to Mandalore, which can’t coexist with him going to Nevarro first (unless they’re running greyhounds to Kalevala), but I’ll give it some thought. To be fair, Nevarro makes more sense as a commercial destination than Tatooine, since it’s on the Hydian Way.

Also, I know you mentioned AI voices, but I do know that Emily Swallow and Katee Sackhoff have Cameos for relatively cheap, that may be a viable source of lines for their characters.

Honestly, and I kinda hate saying this, I’ll probably get better results from AI. If I used Cameos I’d be matching professionally recorded audio with Emily and Katee’s iPhone mics, and I’d only get whatever take they’d send me unless I pay again. As long as I use the dialogue track as a source, the AI voices will probably sound more similar to the original dialogue, and will probably end up being more economical too.

I do like the creative solution though!

Okay, I think I came up with a decent solution to the R5 issue in Chapter 17.

Basically, Din would get R5 at the same time as the N-1, as losthead suggested, but not for the purpose of spelunking (since Din has no plans to go to Mandalore yet); instead, Peli insists that an astromech is an essential part of a starfighter like the N-1, and Din reluctantly accepts since he just needs a ship.

Things play out similarly from there: Din goes to Kalevala, decides to go to the Living Waters, then goes to Nevarro to hopefully rebuild IG-11 to use for spelunking. However, instead of Din being told to go find a IG memory circuit, Din is told how it’s basically impossible to get a new IG memory circuit and the project ends there.

Din then leaves Nevarro and decides that he has no other option except R5, and chooses him for the job (albeit with low expectations).

I feel like this not only helps streamline things but also makes Din’s “trusting droids” arc in this season a bit stronger. Now, Din’s decision to have R5 be his spelunker is something he chooses based on his circumstances, instead of being convinced to by Peli. He makes the connection between R5 and spelunking himself, since before that he basically understood R5 as simply a component of the N-1. Having it be Din’s own choice also rewards him even more since he benefits from putting trust in a droid—as he perceives it, a very risky bet—ultimately strengthening his trust in droids.

Would love to hear y’all’s thoughts on this!

That sounds fairly seamless! I hope it’s reasonably possible to vfx R5 over in the appropriate places, I really like how this builds up R5’s arc as you mentioned.

(Now that I’m thinking about it, kinda weird that they made the bubble for Grogu only to barely use it, huh?)

losthead said:

That sounds fairly seamless! I hope it’s reasonably possible to vfx R5 over in the appropriate places, I really like how this builds up R5’s arc as you mentioned.

Yeah, the VFX will be a bit of a hurdle but I was going to have to figure out how to composite R5 anyways for some later shots, so now I just gotta learn sooner!

(Now that I’m thinking about it, kinda weird that they made the bubble for Grogu only to barely use it, huh?)

I was thinking about this when I was writing up that last post too! Strange little thing. If I go down this route then the bubble’s officially dead in this edit sadly.

I see what you’re saying, but this editor is intent on keeping this as the same canon result as the original season 3 from what I can tell. If you’re wanting something that changes this, you can pursue other fan edits. Lord knows there’s an abundance.