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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED] — Page 7

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smudger9 said:

Broom Kid said:

Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

doesn’t this sort of blow the whole “classic Star Wars” vibe you’re going for all by itself?

It seems sort of jarring to adhere so strongly to main saga convention and then make a Marvel gimmick the last thing anyone sees.

Not at all. It’s removal means that the end scene is Much more like a classical Star was movie with a long, music driven closing scene. I was originally intending to cut it completely. Putting it at the end is just a way of keeping it in the movie In some form. When I view it I’ll be ignoring it.

I would cut it completely or move it earlier. The post-credit scene is just too un-Star Wars. You could put it immediately after he crashes, or just not have it. To me, it’s nice to know the villain survived, which is pretty classic Star Wars. Just move it before the scene with the heroes and music swelling. Or let him pop up, miraculously surviving, in the next movie for season two without that scene.

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JakeRyan17 said:

smudger9 said:

Broom Kid said:

Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

doesn’t this sort of blow the whole “classic Star Wars” vibe you’re going for all by itself?

It seems sort of jarring to adhere so strongly to main saga convention and then make a Marvel gimmick the last thing anyone sees.

Not at all. It’s removal means that the end scene is Much more like a classical Star was movie with a long, music driven closing scene. I was originally intending to cut it completely. Putting it at the end is just a way of keeping it in the movie In some form. When I view it I’ll be ignoring it.

I would cut it completely or move it earlier. The post-credit scene is just too un-Star Wars. You could put it immediately after he crashes, or just not have it. To me, it’s nice to know the villain survived, which is pretty classic Star Wars. Just move it before the scene with the heroes and music swelling. Or let him pop up, miraculously surviving, in the next movie for season two without that scene.

I’d argue that it’s more “Star Wars” to not know whether the villain has survived or not… Darth Maul, Boba Fett, The Emperor

Moving it earlier just doesn’t work for the ending when you view it as a whole movie… it feels like the ending of a TV series.

Current Project:- Ahsoka EP1: Heir to the Empire https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Smudger9s-Ahsoka-Movie-Series-EP1-Heir-to-the-Empire-WIP/id/107396#1551872

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smudger9 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

smudger9 said:

Broom Kid said:

Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

doesn’t this sort of blow the whole “classic Star Wars” vibe you’re going for all by itself?

It seems sort of jarring to adhere so strongly to main saga convention and then make a Marvel gimmick the last thing anyone sees.

Not at all. It’s removal means that the end scene is Much more like a classical Star was movie with a long, music driven closing scene. I was originally intending to cut it completely. Putting it at the end is just a way of keeping it in the movie In some form. When I view it I’ll be ignoring it.

I would cut it completely or move it earlier. The post-credit scene is just too un-Star Wars. You could put it immediately after he crashes, or just not have it. To me, it’s nice to know the villain survived, which is pretty classic Star Wars. Just move it before the scene with the heroes and music swelling. Or let him pop up, miraculously surviving, in the next movie for season two without that scene.

I’d argue that it’s more “Star Wars” to not know whether the villain has survived or not… Darth Maul, Boba Fett, The Emperor

Moving it earlier just doesn’t work for the ending when you view it as a whole movie… it feels like the ending of a TV series.

All three of those examples are retcons. If you look at Darth Vader in A New Hope, Boba Fett and Vader in Empire Strikes Back, Sidious/Palpatine in Phantom Menace, Dooku and Palpatine in Attack of the Clones, Vader and Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith…

There was almost always a final shot of the villain ensuring we knew there was an ongoing threat just before the heroes reunited and had the hopeful look into the distance shot with swelling music before the circle-wipe transition to the credits.

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JakeRyan17 said:

smudger9 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

smudger9 said:

Broom Kid said:

Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

doesn’t this sort of blow the whole “classic Star Wars” vibe you’re going for all by itself?

It seems sort of jarring to adhere so strongly to main saga convention and then make a Marvel gimmick the last thing anyone sees.

Not at all. It’s removal means that the end scene is Much more like a classical Star was movie with a long, music driven closing scene. I was originally intending to cut it completely. Putting it at the end is just a way of keeping it in the movie In some form. When I view it I’ll be ignoring it.

I would cut it completely or move it earlier. The post-credit scene is just too un-Star Wars. You could put it immediately after he crashes, or just not have it. To me, it’s nice to know the villain survived, which is pretty classic Star Wars. Just move it before the scene with the heroes and music swelling. Or let him pop up, miraculously surviving, in the next movie for season two without that scene.

I’d argue that it’s more “Star Wars” to not know whether the villain has survived or not… Darth Maul, Boba Fett, The Emperor

Moving it earlier just doesn’t work for the ending when you view it as a whole movie… it feels like the ending of a TV series.

All three of those examples are retcons. If you look at Darth Vader in A New Hope, Boba Fett and Vader in Empire Strikes Back, Sidious/Palpatine in Phantom Menace, Dooku and Palpatine in Attack of the Clones, Vader and Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith…

There was almost always a final shot of the villain ensuring we knew there was an ongoing threat just before the heroes reunited and had the hopeful look into the distance shot with swelling music before the circle-wipe transition to the credits.

There is, but it’s usually a subtle shot demonstrating the threat and never of a character that our heroes believe to be dead.

If we take EpI and EPIV those shots are extremely subtle. We’ve certainly never had a “Aha, I survived” shot at the end of a Star Wars movie.

When it comes down to it, we won’t know what will work best until season 2 is released, but my feeling is that not knowing Gideon is alive will play out better.

Current Project:- Ahsoka EP1: Heir to the Empire https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Smudger9s-Ahsoka-Movie-Series-EP1-Heir-to-the-Empire-WIP/id/107396#1551872

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Then I’d cut it completely.

And I would argue that the shot of Vader in A New Hope is an “Aha, I survived” shot, but if that’s not the vibe you like, commit to it and cut the shot.

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I think the post credit scene is a good idea 😉

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You could always save the scene for near the start of the second-series-as-a-movie when it (hopefully) comes?

Or people who don’t want it could just press stop before the credits end.

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liambrazier said:

You could always save the scene for near the start of the second-series-as-a-movie when it (hopefully) comes?

Or people who don’t want it could just press stop before the credits end.

I’m leaning towards leaving it as a post credits scene. It’s not long enough to be used as a “flashback” in Episode 2.

Had a productive holiday. Have my final list of minor corrections, and have also found a much better music extension for the final scene before the iris-out. Very much on track for an August release.

Current Project:- Ahsoka EP1: Heir to the Empire https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Smudger9s-Ahsoka-Movie-Series-EP1-Heir-to-the-Empire-WIP/id/107396#1551872

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The penultimate piece in the jigsaw… the closing scene.
I’ve kept the Moff Gideon Scene out but have rescored it using a portion of “you are a Mandalorian”.
This provides an almost seamless music transition from the chapter 8 clip to the added chapter 3 clip and runs much better into the classical Star Wars music.

https://vimeo.com/444382218

just the opening crawl to go…

Current Project:- Ahsoka EP1: Heir to the Empire https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Smudger9s-Ahsoka-Movie-Series-EP1-Heir-to-the-Empire-WIP/id/107396#1551872

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The music transition IS really good.

Quick corrections: There’s no H in “Jon Favreau” and (I just looked this up) he didn’t direct any of the Mandalorian’s episodes. I knew he was the executive producer and the primary showrunner - but he never did direct any of the Mandalorian’s episodes.

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That transition works really well. I have a tiny nitpick with the music at 3:10 as the Razor Crest jumps into hyperspace. The timing sounds slightly off flowing into the credits. I can’t quite place it but it seems like the Mando music gets cut off a second too soon (or maybe needs to be extended a tiny bit).

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jkimm said:

That transition works really well. I have a tiny nitpick with the music at 3:10 as the Razor Crest jumps into hyperspace. The timing sounds slightly off flowing into the credits. I can’t quite place it but it seems like the Mando music gets cut off a second too soon (or maybe needs to be extended a tiny bit).

The Mando music fades out to nothing underneath the blast of the end credits. Is it the Timing of the hyperspace noise that’s the problem? Pushing the end credits music any later creates a step.

Current Project:- Ahsoka EP1: Heir to the Empire https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Smudger9s-Ahsoka-Movie-Series-EP1-Heir-to-the-Empire-WIP/id/107396#1551872

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Broom Kid said:

The music transition IS really good.

Quick corrections: There’s no H in “Jon Favreau” and (I just looked this up) he didn’t direct any of the Mandalorian’s episodes. I knew he was the executive producer and the primary showrunner - but he never did direct any of the Mandalorian’s episodes.

Just checked the individual credits and you’re right about Favreau… I should know better than to trust Wookieepedia 😃

Current Project:- Ahsoka EP1: Heir to the Empire https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Smudger9s-Ahsoka-Movie-Series-EP1-Heir-to-the-Empire-WIP/id/107396#1551872

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I’m listening on headphones so it might be amplified but the two little notes that fade with the hyperspace sound are what’s bugging me. It’s obviously not a big deal but if you’re able to fade them out more it might help. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate what you’ve done here. Really looking forward to seeing the final version.

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This looks fun! Great ending, as I prefer the ending sans the Moff Gideon/darksaber cliffhanger. Can’t wait to check out the final product!

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I’m listening on headphones so it might be amplified but the two little notes that fade with the hyperspace sound are what’s bugging me. It’s obviously not a big deal but if you’re able to fade them out more it might help. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate what you’ve done here. Really looking forward to seeing the final version.

I know the 2 notes you’re talking about. They don’t actually fade out, they lead into the end “blast” of the “You Are a Mandalorian” track. Its the end blast that fades into the blast of the end credits. If you want to listed to what I’m talking about its from the Chapter 1 soundtrack “You are a Mandalorian” from 2:30 onwards.
I’ve tried it without those 2 notes and decided the 2 note lead-in sounds better.

Here are the two different options (audio only)
https://youtu.be/yA9IhO-7pjU

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smudger9 said:

Here are the two different options (audio only)
https://youtu.be/yA9IhO-7pjU

Thanks for providing the two options. I’m personally liking the first (imagining the hyperspace sound mixed in) but either will do. You’ve done such an excellent job that I trust your ears on this one. 😃

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smudger9 said:

jkimm said:

I’m listening on headphones so it might be amplified but the two little notes that fade with the hyperspace sound are what’s bugging me. It’s obviously not a big deal but if you’re able to fade them out more it might help. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate what you’ve done here. Really looking forward to seeing the final version.

I know the 2 notes you’re talking about. They don’t actually fade out, they lead into the end “blast” of the “You Are a Mandalorian” track. Its the end blast that fades into the blast of the end credits. If you want to listed to what I’m talking about its from the Chapter 1 soundtrack “You are a Mandalorian” from 2:30 onwards.
I’ve tried it without those 2 notes and decided the 2 note lead-in sounds better.

Here are the two different options (audio only)
https://youtu.be/yA9IhO-7pjU

I think the second version sounds a lot cleaner imo. Great work

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liambrazier said:

smudger9 said:

The end is near! Final cut has been reviewed. All that is left is the rendering… and maybe a trailer.

Here is the poster

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UGku3aqxoy--z2H8_nLUFXXTjNsq2i2S/view?usp=sharing

Exciting! (says there’s no access on that poster link)

Should work now

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when is this gonna be done?

Fate is best Anime/Visual Novel.

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smudger9 said:

The end is near! Final cut has been reviewed. All that is left is the rendering… and maybe a trailer.

Here is the poster

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UGku3aqxoy--z2H8_nLUFXXTjNsq2i2S/view?usp=sharing

Great news smudger 😃
The poster is awesome, the stylistic choice appeals to me. Only the roman letter I feels strange. It is a good idea, but maybe it should look different, perhaps less opacity or incorporate the I into the title (got no idea for that unfortunately).

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I been an reader of this forum on and off for some years (primarily because of Harmy’s DeSpecialized), but this project has gotten me so exited that I finally made an account for myself 😃

I do agree with CCMAP tough, the Roman letter in the poster is not a homerun. It was actually not until I read his post that I understood what is was. “What’s this blur?”. Anyhow, that is a minor detail.

Can’t wait to see the final product. It really sounds kickass!

Faneditors - I salute you.

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I have logo and font assets related to the sequel trilogy (and saga rebrand for Disney+) if you want me to mock up a logo for you that matches that.