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I don't have a copy of the book anymore but that's the origin of the missed hook.  Maybe also for "So's life" ?

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No the  "She is Beautiful" line in the detention block i believe is either in the Novelization or the Radio Drama.  Never was in the film.

Some dialogue in the shooting script was shot like "and you call yourselves humans"

I doubt they ever shot Harrison saying escaping this place will be like flying through the five fire rings of fornax or whatever he says in the book.

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darth_ender said:

With Disney owning LFL would it be more possible to get a release of the Lost Cut?

 The same Disney that will never ever release The Thief and the Cobbler, and the same Disney that closed LucasArts and cancelled The Clone Wars?

 

 

 

 

.........maybe!

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Asaki said:

darth_ender said:

With Disney owning LFL would it be more possible to get a release of the Lost Cut?

 The same Disney that will never ever release The Thief and the Cobbler, and the same Disney that closed LucasArts and cancelled The Clone Wars?

 

 

 

 

.........maybe!

You forgot Song of the South.

 

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stretch009 said:

Asaki said:

darth_ender said:

With Disney owning LFL would it be more possible to get a release of the Lost Cut?

 The same Disney that will never ever release The Thief and the Cobbler, and the same Disney that closed LucasArts and cancelled The Clone Wars?

 

 

 

 

.........maybe!

You forgot Song of the South.

 

And the uncut version of Fantasia.

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Disney is more likely to remove Jabba The Hutt from the entire series because his lego playset upset a group of Muslims.

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adywan said:

The "Lost Cut" still exists in its complete form in the Lucasfilm archives. It was documented in one issue of Star Wars insider a number of years back. It's only in black and white and silent (although the audio track is also probably buried in the vaults somewhere because we see a section of the lost cut in the deleted cantina scene). Containing 30-40% different footage and David West Reynolds was lucky enough to view it in its entirety. If the missing grappling hook scene ever existed then it would have been in the Lost Cut and he would be the person who could once and for all clear this myth up

I've sent him a letter to ask, it can't hurt.

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I'm sure I forgot a lot of examples, but time is money...

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adywan said:

If the missing grappling hook scene ever existed then it would have been in the Lost Cut and he would be the person who could once and for all clear this myth up

And even if it did, no audience saw a silent B&W film when they saw Star Wars in the theatre anyways.

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Well, you guys haven't done a whole lot to raise my hopes ;) but I hope one day someone will relent and let us see that additional footage.  Star Wars is a movie with so much history, and I think it's a shame to keep some of that history locked in a vault, rotting away.

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Color Dailies exist. Many of which are the same scenes as in the lost cut. Not sure which footage is technically lost and they would have to use the black and white for those scenes.

Some of the color dailies have been seen but not all in the 2004 documentary, and some on the blu ray in the deleted scenes.

The 77, 1997 are lost cuts since no new transfer was made for DVD or blu ray.

Would kind of be weird for the John Jympson cut on Blu Ray when the actual real trilogy from 1977-1983 is only available from a 1993 laserdisc print.

And Disney has no plans to change Lucas revisionism/destruction of a cultural icon.

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I had no idea this thread would survive almost ten years....

Anyway, with the rumours of Disney actually working on a new 4K transfer of the original trilogy, the possibility of this lost cut being released suddenly got a bit better.

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Um, the only reason thread survived 10 years is because you bumped it. Otherwise it would have been closer to 9.

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Danfun128 said:

Um, the only reason thread survived 10 years is because you bumped it. Otherwise it would have been closer to 9.

 Nine years? So are you saying the thread has been around for "almost ten years"?

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In 1977, I clearly remember seeing ANH in a theatre within the first two weeks of its release and the deleted scenes(lost cut) were included in the film. I was 11 years old and saw it twice at the theater. The first time I saw it I clearly remember Luke looking up at a sparkling space battle. Luke speeds past a woman yelling. The Toshi station scene and how dimly lit it was. I remember being sort of confused by these scenes and the pace of the film and it’s connection to the robots in the opening. I always thought that I was imagining all theses memories until the deleted scenes were finally released. The Biggs meeting and Aunt Beru and the pouring of the blue milk was all there. The cantina was weird and stranger. Vader climbed into a fighter near the end and yells as he is spinning away.
The second time I saw ANH, the scenes were cut and film is as we all know it today. I’ve been searching for others who have seen a rough version also and finding more reports that I’m not alone.
The only thing I can figure is that within the first two weeks of distribution the studios released rougher cuts of the 70mm film and these were shown to the public just to get the film out on schedule… within a few short weeks a newer trimmed down distributed film with final cuts was made and theaters were asked to return rough films and/or make cuts to match final release since film copies were expensive and easier to do if certain theaters had the capability… all I know is what I clearly remember, and somewhere other than George’s safe a rough cut still exists… in color and with sound. On a final note, A lot of Star Wars fans back in 77 brought tape recording equipment into shows and made audio tapes. These tapes may prove to be the final answer… that some of us were able to witness something special! The lost rough theatrical release.

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Votss said:

In 1977, I clearly remember seeing ANH in a theatre within the first two weeks of its release and the deleted scenes(lost cut) were included in the film. I was 11 years old and saw it twice at the theater. The first time I saw it I clearly remember Luke looking up at a sparkling space battle. Luke speeds past a woman yelling. The Toshi station scene and how dimly lit it was. I remember being sort of confused by these scenes and the pace of the film and it’s connection to the robots in the opening. I always thought that I was imagining all theses memories until the deleted scenes were finally released. The Biggs meeting and Aunt Beru and the pouring of the blue milk was all there. The cantina was weird and stranger. Vader climbed into a fighter near the end and yells as he is spinning away.
The second time I saw ANH, the scenes were cut and film is as we all know it today. I’ve been searching for others who have seen a rough version also and finding more reports that I’m not alone.
The only thing I can figure is that within the first two weeks of distribution the studios released rougher cuts of the 70mm film and these were shown to the public just to get the film out on schedule… within a few short weeks a newer trimmed down distributed film with final cuts was made and theaters were asked to return rough films and/or make cuts to match final release since film copies were expensive and easier to do if certain theaters had the capability… all I know is what I clearly remember, and somewhere other than George’s safe a rough cut still exists… in color and with sound. On a final note, A lot of Star Wars fans back in 77 brought tape recording equipment into shows and made audio tapes. These tapes may prove to be the final answer… that some of us were able to witness something special! The lost rough theatrical release.

Your 100% right it happened, no I’m kidding.

This is referred to as the Mandela Effect. I think your personal memory is due to multiple stacked convoluted memories of the movie, radio dramas, the books, and the various making of’s. We all experience these types of memories to various degrees and the longer ago it was and the more you’ve retold the story the more “real” these jumbled memories become.

This is a fascinating subject all around but… Unless you are now in your 70-80’s and were in your mid to late twenties in 1976/77 oh and a select member of the film making elite who actually saw a rough cut without score and parts in black and white. I must call poodoo on this.

Either that OR you really are from an alternate dimension! And somehow you’ve became stuck in our apparently lacking one!

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Rikter said:
This is referred to as the Mandela Effect. I think your personal memory is due to multiple stacked convoluted memories of the movie, radio dramas, the books, and the various making of’s. We all experience these types of memories to various degrees and the longer ago it was and the more you’ve retold the story the more “real” these jumbled memories become.

That’s really interesting – didn’t know it had a name.

Getting back to topic, I saw SW as a teenager soon after it came out (70MM, Paramus NJ), but sadly it wasn’t the Lost Cut version.

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I’ve described the Mandela Effect elsewhere.

What it is in most cases (I believe) is people filling their faulty memories with other people’s faulty memories.

What a lot of people are remembering, in the case of Star Wars, is probably the novelization.

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The shot of Luke looking up at the star destroyer as just a faint glint in the distance is one I wish still could have made it into the movie above all deleted scenes, yet the pacing obviously puts Luke earlier and indicates a more traditional pacing.