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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (V3 UPDATE!) — Page 31

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Poppa, I do like the newer subtler subtle version…I really think you are honing in on nailing this (I wold say that you have already)

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I think a bit quieter for the fin as well as remove the force transmission sound as I feel it is too obviously a force call (leaving it out, makes it more open to interpretation, that way its confirmed in ROS) and the sound is already being used alot in this movie 4 times i think including the Palps edit.

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Axios said:

I think a bit quieter for the fin as well as remove the force transmission sound as I feel it is too obviously a force call (leaving it out, makes it more open to interpretation, that way its confirmed in ROS) and the sound is already being used alot in this movie 4 times i think including the Palps edit.

That’s a good suggestion. I am very curious to see/hear a version that is quiet and without the Force Call Sound.

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That much better. I like it better than the first version since it’s little too on the nose!

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I think the radio scene works well as it is. But how about “At last… Find me” for Palpatine’s line? It would imply two things in my mind:

  1. At last, Kylo has killed “Snoke” and thus fully committed to the dark side.
  2. At last, Skywalker is dead. “Snoke” spend two movies being really into finding and killing Luke, taking revenge for the end of ROTJ. Now he’s finally out of the picture, and there’s no more need of the Snoke charade, the final phase of his plan can be kicked into action.
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Dr. Krogshöj said:

I think the radio scene works well as it is. But how about “At last… Find me” for Palpatine’s line? It would imply two things in my mind:

  1. At last, Kylo has killed “Snoke” and thus fully committed to the dark side.
  2. At last, Skywalker is dead. “Snoke” spend two movies being really into finding and killing Luke, taking revenge for the end of ROTJ. Now he’s finally out of the picture, and there’s no more need of the Snoke charade, the final phase of his plan can be kicked into action.

Hmmm, interesting idea. Still leaves things up in the air too with what it means.

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Has anyone done a mock-up of the radio broadcast that removes the Kylo/Rey portion, and uses the full Fortnite broadcast? You could then have Palpatine say in Kylo’s head “Find Me” afterwards. That way, the exact moment the dice disappear, you hear the broadcast start.

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PT: Hal9000
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6: NSP
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The whole radio broadcast message is pretty silly. It doesn’t even make sense TROS. The Resistance has no clue about Palp being back until they got the intel from the “Mole.” If there was a broadcast that went out to the entire universe and everyone knows it, then why the heck did they act so clueless when they got the intel?

It’s another case of the sloppy-ness that’s come about this movie, even things that surround the movie too. The crawl has to be altered…

Anyway, that is just my two cents and I am assuming any fan edits of TROS will alter the crawl (For on big reason to remove the mention of Palpatine RIGHT AWAY) and also to remove that line about the broadcast. Just … why?

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Yep it was definitely something added late in the crawl.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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The broadcast makes sense in this context of seconds after Luke dies, Palatine emerges.

“The day of reckoning has come.”
“The great error has been corrected.”

Luke is dead. The Jedi are gone.
The Sith have won.

In terms of a 9 film saga, this broadcast ties things together nicely, while also providing a cliffhanger reminiscent of TESB reveal.

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PT: Hal9000
4/5: Adywan
6: NSP
7/8: Hal9000

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I personally don’t like the Fortnite broadcast. It makes no sense why Palpatine would reveal himself days before the Death Star 4’s were ready, and it contradicts the scene where the Resistance is surprised at Palpatine’s return. Many editors are planning to remove the broadcast from the opening crawl, and I’d prefer this edit to be compatible with any edit of TROS.

My preferred saga experience:
TPM/AOTC/ROTS (Hal 9000), ANH/ESB/ROTJ (Despecialized), The Mandalorian,
TFA (Starlight), TLJ (Fallen Knight), TROS (Resurgence).
May the midichlorians be with you.

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nightstalkerpoet I think you are missing the points that are being brought up. The Radio Broadcast aspect was … one … of the many issues coming up with the movie. In the crawl they establish that Palp’s made a broadcast and everyone knows about it. Later, we are with the resistance after they get intel from THE MOLE IN THE FIRST ORDER about Palp being alive.

Once they get that intel, then they are all surprised that Palp’s is alive. So even in the first what, 20 minutes the movie contradicts itself? It’s like there is a movie that has a opening message that “Famous Business Man Dies From a Robbery and the Whole Town is In Mourning.” We then go into the movie and everyone is happy and going about their business until 20 minutes later a news report comes on the television that the Business man is murdered and everyone is so surprised.

It has to go.

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The broadcast itself is a bit too much and out of place to use here I think. Interesting idea to add “At last” though! It actually is already in there, but very muffled. The first piece of the radio that comes through (what makes Kylo look up) is the “At last” from the beginning of the Fortnite broadcast. I liked having a nod to the broadcast that was still vague, but I could make it a bit clearer if we think that’s important to hear.

Here’s a new pass of 4E. For this version, I tweaked the light rays and added some camera shake so the shots of the radio didn’t feel so static.

Palpatine Contact - Option 4E
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Awesome, love it!

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Love this!!

I’d say it’s ready?

You’ve honed in and refind this besutifully!

in my view having ‘at last’ being anything more than what’s already hidden in there would be too much?

From a story perspective (at this point in the story) ‘at last’ what??

Since we get ‘at last’ said within a more meaningful context literally 4mins into TROS i’d say it’s doubly unneeded here?

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That’s pretty goddamned great, nice work!

For me, “at last” would work in the context of “you’ve finally shed your last burdens, snoke is dead, skywalker is dead, and Rey has left you behind.” Personally I can’t quite hear it as it stands (I was going to say it would only work subtly until I realized you’d already put it in there).

However, I’d be fine with this version as is.

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I agree that this latest version is the best version yet. Like the other changes in your edit, it feels like an actual scene from the movie instead of a fan edit. I personally don’t need “at last” to be more obvious. If this edit was the movie that was released in theaters, that line would be one of the details that would be speculated about for months on end. I prefer it subtle.

My preferred saga experience:
TPM/AOTC/ROTS (Hal 9000), ANH/ESB/ROTJ (Despecialized), The Mandalorian,
TFA (Starlight), TLJ (Fallen Knight), TROS (Resurgence).
May the midichlorians be with you.

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Definitely the best version, but I still vote to not integrate it into the full edit. Or, if you do, have two different versions: one with and one without.

To me, anything dealing with TROS feels like a mixed bag at the moment (given that it hasn’t gotten a home release yet and it’s still a brand new film), so I just prefer to keep TLJ 100% TLJ-focused. It also doesn’t help that many people have very different ideas as to how the story of TROS should have been handled. But that may change in the future.

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Hello! Here’s a collected list of all of the considered changes for V3:

V3 PALPATINE TEASES
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  1. Dark Side Cave 1st Appearance Sith Whispers (V1)
    Description: added Sith whispers as the cave first calls to Rey (note: I did try to add a reverb of Palpatine actually saying “Rey” from “I’m afraid the deflector shield…” as was suggested but it just didn’t work.)

  2. Dark Side Cave Sith Whispers and Hood (V4)
    Description: Added Sith whispers and Palpatine’s hood appears in the reflection just before Rey’s face appears.

  3. Flashback Palpatine Laugh (by HAL 9000 and TiMartyn)
    Description: Added Palpatine laugh to the last Luke/Kylo flashback. Thanks to Hal 9000 for providing the audio.

  4. Palpatine Contact - Option E
    Description: When Kylo is in the radio room of the rebel base on Crait, he has an unexpected contact from Palpatine, a voice saying “Find me”. Option E has one reused shot, that is cropped and retimed.

  5. Snoke Sith Death - Subtle
    Description: Snoke’s eyes flash red/yellow as he’s stabbed by the lightsaber, and then a puff of blue “Palpatine essence“ releases after his body splits in half.

  6. Force Skype Sounds
    Description: Added some of the Palpatine Contact sounds to other Force Skype moments.

V3 NON-PALPATINE CHANGES

  1. Finn Wakes
    Description: Rey whispers “Finn” right before he wakes up, hinting at his force sensitivity.

I am considering keeping two versions available:

  1. the current V2
  2. V3 with the Palpatine teases

IA suggests a V3 but without the radio scene at the end. I’m hesitant to do this, because without the radio scene, these tweaks really don’t address my main goal for V3, which was to adequately tease Palpatine so that TROS doesn’t come so out of left field (no matter what version of TROS you watch). The radio scene is the moment that (theoretically in my head!) would have gotten me excited/curious for Episode IX.

I also cannot host three versions. Having said that, would anyone else prefer the V3 changes without just the radio scene (a V3 Lite)? It seems cleaner to me just go with/without the Palpatine teases (V2 or V3), but I’m open to hosting V3 Lite instead of V2.

Thank you all for your helpful feedback!