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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (V3 RELEASED!) — Page 48

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They’re almost hybrid versions of each other already! But I’m glad you’re able to do that, and that you won’t have to start from scratch.

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I’ve been thinking about how much force sensitivity Leia demonstrates across the Sequel trilogy all day, to try and get a hold on whether the removal of Leia Poppins does present a thematic character inconsistency as we head into TROS.

I don’t think it does. At all.

As others have mentioned, Leia’s force sensitivity/skill has ONLY ever been implied since the reveal in ROTJ. And all that we’ve ever SEEN is that Leia is adept at being tuned in to the fates and feelings of her loved ones.

In ROTJ she recalls her mothers sadness, intuitively understands her family connection to Luke and senses/feels that Luke is safe and survived the explosion of the Death Star at the end.

In TFA she feels the death of Han.

In TLJ she senses Ben’s presence and turmoil in his fighter as he debates pulling the trigger on her. She also senses the death of Luke.

In TROS she senses the danger that both Ben and Rey are placing themselves in as they fight…and she chooses to intervene by reaching out to Ben.

This is the one instance where we see her pro-actively use her power to be more than just a passive observer, and under the circumstances, considering the stakes for both of her ‘children’ in that moment, it’s appropriate and relatable.

Leia’s force powers primarily seem to revolve around her intuition(?) and to that end it’s completely consistent in how it’s demonstrated across all 4 movies where force sensitivity has been an attributed to her character.

Infact, if you really think about it, you could argue that ‘Leia Poppins’ is the one instance where her use of the force completely deviates from all that came before and all that comes after, so maybe it’s removal is even more justified in order to maintain consistency.

It also means that her ONE defining force moment is now saved until TROS - the finale and it’s the moment that she reaches out to Ben in order to save Rey, and in so doing she gives her life.

Whether or not the importance/meaning of that moment stuck the landing when it came to it’s execution is another question entirely, but thematically the idea is quite powerful, so now that I’ve given it some actual thought, I’m even more convinced now that the removal of Leia Poppins is the right call. Not only within the context of TLJ, but TROS too.

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Hal 9000 said:

They’re almost hybrid versions of each other already! But I’m glad you’re able to do that, and that you won’t have to start from scratch.

Hahaha, fair enough! Essentially I might just add Space Leia to Poppa’s. Maybe your Poe/Hux intro dialogue since I like the way it plays out better! Who knows what else - I’ll have to compare the change lists again. Absolutely non-essential changes but at this point, why not make it perfect for me?

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Exactly.

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Exactly exactly!

And smpearce1981, that was perfectly said and from a different angle than I had considered before!

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Would your software allow you to export a LUT of your overall color correction to the movie?

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smpearce, I’m convinced too. Well argued.

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Hal 9000 said:

Would your software allow you to export a LUT of your overall color correction to the movie?

Just sent them to you!

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EddieDean said:

smpearce, I’m convinced too. Well argued.

Hey Eddie,

Well, it was certainly a worthy question to bring to the table and I can totally see where you were coming from in trying to determine if ‘more’ was needed.

But after going down the rabbit hole with it on the backs of both Poppa and ChainsawAsh’s comments, I just landed on the hidden beauty that presents itself as a result of removing ‘Leia Poppins’

Like Poppa, I was pretty indifferent to the original sequence and I just preferred it’s ommission as it just helped keep things less outlandish…but it seems there’s actually scope to interpret many more layers from it and I think that now we’ve found that extra subtext it’s quite rewarding?

I don’t know if anyone saw TiMartyn’s spin on this scene?

He kept the majority of it intact, but reworked it to feature Luke.

In his version, Rey’s arrival prompts Luke to reconnect to the force and check in on Leia just as the attack occurs. Luke then uses his powers to recover her back to the safety of the ship.

It was an interesting take on the scene, as it really sets up how powerful Luke has become a lot earlier in the movie.

It was a really solid idea and executed pretty well but something ultimately felt slightly off about it, whereas Poppa’s approach just keeps it clean and concise so that the movie is allowed to move on without drawing attention to itself by arguably jumping the shark

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Agreed, very well argued, but:

All y’all are forgetting her sensing Luke calling to her at the end of ESB… smh

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ChainsawAsh said:

Agreed, very well argued, but:

All y’all are forgetting her sensing Luke calling to her at the end of ESB… smh

D’oh!

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Like I said, it’s been a thing since 1980!

Basically, unless you’re insane you actually like the scene, there’s no reason to keep Leia Poppins IMO.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Agreed, very well argued, but:

All y’all are forgetting her sensing Luke calling to her at the end of ESB… smh

Oooh good catch!!

However, despite this being a legit instance that went overlooked, it’s still on point/theme, right?

As in, it’s still a one way ‘conversation’ with it being Luke calling to Leia?

If I’m remembering it right, she could still be classed as being ‘passive’ in this moment?

She’s sensing Luke being in distress, she might even be literally hearing Luke call out to her…but she’s not broadcasting back.

I know she acknowledges the call by saying ‘Luke?’ but I always interpreted that as her saying it to herself out of realisation that she is feeling his presence and having some sort of intuition that he needs help?

Anyhow, well caught Chainsaw!

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Yeah, that’s a fair analysis.

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Good notes all round, guys. It’s been hinted at in every movie after ANH, so fine to expand on it in the finale without needing Leia Poppins.

As a side note, I doubt that the Leia knowing it was Luke in ESB was originally intended to be her being force sensitive, since she only became his sister (and also the ‘there is another’) in one of the drafts of ROTJ, but retroactively it totally works.