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I actually kinda want to slow the cave footage down, ESB style.

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DominicCobb said:

I actually kinda want to slow the cave footage down, ESB style.

Lol, that would be a big throwback to ESB.

It may be a bit triply for how long the scene is!

So Far Hal I can dig your list. Anything to cut down the Casino scenes would be great!

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jarbear said:

DominicCobb said:

I actually kinda want to slow the cave footage down, ESB style.

Lol, that would be a big throwback to ESB.

It may be a bit triply for how long the scene is!

Yeah I figure these are the reasons it wasn’t done like that.

Still, I’d like to try it and see how I feel about it.

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Would it be possible to move back and restructure the scene with Yoda?

I imagine repurposing the scene as Yoda telling Luke that he needs to train Rey. Kind of like a call back to how Obi-Wan told Yoda that he needed to train Luke.

Like you have the scene where he shows her the books and tells her that the Jedi have to end. Then the next night he is going to burn the books once and has his momment with Yoda.

I think it fits in with the general theme of his conversation with Yoda being that as a teacher we must let our students make thier own mistakes otherwise how will they learn?

I also imagine reworking Lukes character arc in this movie to be more like Phil from the beginning of the movie Hercules. The person who has given up trying to train heroes because his students failed him but now is forced to reluctantly train one last promising student.

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One of the things I disliked the most about the film scene wise was the Leia space scene. I’m for cutting that and just showing her, like someone else said, being carried to the med-bay.

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LordRorek said:

Would it be possible to move back and restructure the scene with Yoda?

I imagine repurposing the scene as Yoda telling Luke that he needs to train Rey. Kind of like a call back to how Obi-Wan told Yoda that he needed to train Luke.

Like you have the scene where he shows her the books and tells her that the Jedi have to end. Then the next night he is going to burn the books once and has his momment with Yoda.

I think it fits in with the general theme of his conversation with Yoda being that as a teacher we must let our students make thier own mistakes otherwise how will they learn?

I also imagine reworking Lukes character arc in this movie to be more like Phil from the beginning of the movie Hercules. The person who has given up trying to train heroes because his students failed him but now is forced to reluctantly train one last promising student.

I also plan on moving the Yoda scene but later in the movie. Preferably right after Kylo declares himself Supreme Leader and before Crait. I like that since after all hope seems absolutely lost, your able to get the hopeful scene with Yoda about failure and then it signals what will happen with Luke better. I just feel it would be more emotionally poignant that way.

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As I think on it, I anticipate removing Phasma from TLJ altogether. The film is overstuffed, and Phasma already had a plausible “out” in TFA. She was not necessary to the story of TLJ at all, and cutting her material allows for a much easier removal of some problematic Finn, Rose, and BB8 stuff.
It will depend on whether it can be pulled off. I’m pretty sure it would require some visual FX work to remove her from several shots, since she is present for an extended scene as DJ sells out the Resistance and Finn and Rose are prepared for execution.

If it’s doable, this is what I’d prefer, but I am far from certain it would be.

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The only “too bad” thing about that is you would lose the gorgeous shot of Phasma vs Finn (you know, the shot that was in the trailer).

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You also lose “let’s go chromedome!” the best line in the movie.

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Collipso said:

You also lose “let’s go chromedome!” the best line in the movie.

Man, I used to like you, too. 😉

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Hal 9000 said:

As I think on it, I anticipate removing Phasma from TLJ altogether. The film is overstuffed, and Phasma already had a plausible “out” in TFA. She was not necessary to the story of TLJ at all, and cutting her material allows for a much easier removal of some problematic Finn, Rose, and BB8 stuff.
It will depend on whether it can be pulled off. I’m pretty sure it would require some visual FX work to remove her from several shots, since she is present for an extended scene as DJ sells out the Resistance and Finn and Rose are prepared for execution.

If it’s doable, this is what I’d prefer, but I am far from certain it would be.

You can still keep in her in it and just axe her fight with Finn. That’s what I plan to do. She catches them, orders their execution and then the ship gets sliced in half, then Finn and Rose escape.

It’s far easier than removing her entirely and I think still serves the same goal.

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darthrush said:

Hal 9000 said:

As I think on it, I anticipate removing Phasma from TLJ altogether. The film is overstuffed, and Phasma already had a plausible “out” in TFA. She was not necessary to the story of TLJ at all, and cutting her material allows for a much easier removal of some problematic Finn, Rose, and BB8 stuff.
It will depend on whether it can be pulled off. I’m pretty sure it would require some visual FX work to remove her from several shots, since she is present for an extended scene as DJ sells out the Resistance and Finn and Rose are prepared for execution.

If it’s doable, this is what I’d prefer, but I am far from certain it would be.

You can still keep in her in it and just axe her fight with Finn. That’s what I plan to do. She catches them, orders their execution and then the ship gets sliced in half, then Finn and Rose escape.

It’s far easier than removing her entirely and I think still serves the same goal.

The problem with that is that now she appears for a bit in 2 films and does absolutely nothing.

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Hal 9000 said:

As I think on it, I anticipate removing Phasma from TLJ altogether. The film is overstuffed, and Phasma already had a plausible “out” in TFA. She was not necessary to the story of TLJ at all, and cutting her material allows for a much easier removal of some problematic Finn, Rose, and BB8 stuff.
It will depend on whether it can be pulled off. I’m pretty sure it would require some visual FX work to remove her from several shots, since she is present for an extended scene as DJ sells out the Resistance and Finn and Rose are prepared for execution.

If it’s doable, this is what I’d prefer, but I am far from certain it would be.

I had an idea similar to this on the TLJ ides thread. You could cut out all of Finn and Rose’s scenes after their capture (or lightspeed kamikaze). Their fates would be undisclosed until they arrive at Crait, so we’d be in Poe’s POV. Not only would this cut out questionable scenes, it would also have an emotional impact on the audience (who think they are dead or still captured).

The only problem with this is Phasma appearing right when they’re captured. You could dub Phasma to a male voice and imply this is another, male captain. There’s got to be more than just one captain in the First Order. You could even recolor the red strap blue.

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should’ve added a winky face to my last post for full comprehension, apparently 😉

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Hal, I’m very excited to see your edit! I’ve made this account just to reply to your post. I really dug your edits of the prequels. Please consider these revisions of the film…

-Luke shouldn’t shout about the “sacred texts” after Yoda burns down the tree as it doesn’t make sense for Luke to be upset about something he was literally just going to do!

-Cut the irons on the Supremacy. It felt like more parody humor, which didn’t make much sense to me. It was like from a Lego Star Wars video game.

-Rey should never directly say anything like “who are my parents?” She has never wondered who her parents are- she wondered WHERE her parents are. It seems as if Johnson and LucasFilm forgot that Rey isn’t concerned with who her parents are. We are. The audience cares about who her family is. Rey cares about when they’ll come back, and what happened to them. The film confuses the audience’s questions with the characters’ questions. She might as well had looked at the camera and addressed the thing we were all wondering… It was kind of ridiculous.

-No weird look from Finn at the camera when BB-8 rescues them in a small AT-AT. Rose and Finn give each other a look as if BB-8 saving them is crazy, but it’s so overwhelmingly self-aware it took me out of the movie. Possibly the weirdest part of the movie, maybe even more so than Leia in space if I’m honest.

-But removing space Leia is important too. It’s really bad.

-Maz Kanata’s scene should be removed but if it must stay, please remove the reference to the pendant man and how they apparently hooked up. That was awful.

-No humor with Hux and Kylo on Crait. It takes so much away from the tension of that scene.

-No awkward, prolonged milking of the sea cow.

-Less of making a point out of the wealthy who make money off war.

-Less making a point out of animal cruelty. We can make political statements but making at least four is a bit much. Let’s bring it down to two.

-Remove the line about “saving what you love” from Rose, and cut the sudden kiss she gives Finn. It’s weird.

-The film can show the children talking about the legend of Skywalker, but can end with the Falcon flying into space. Johnson has commented how the Falcon flying into space was almost the last image of the film. It works perfectly.

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I feel like what you’re saying Hal, is that the motivation for cutting her out of the movie is more because since there are a lot of problematic things in her scenes, that it would probably just be easier to cut her out altogether.

If it’d be easier for you I think you should do it. But I kind of agree with Zachary VIII, you’d then have two movies without her doing anything. If it were me, I would rather cut her from the last act TFA to make her not be the one to lower the shields and “emasculate” her character. The idea that their scenes together in TLJ are their first confrontation since his defection feels more appropriate to me.

On another note, I’d be interested in how the execution of the Rose-saving-Finn Edit will look. During my second viewing, the quiet guy next to me during that scene put it bluntly, “That was dumb.”

Also, don’t know if you guys have had your baby yet, Hal, but congratulations if you have!