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The Last Jedi - Clean cut edition — Page 2

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Your changes sound like they make a lot of sense. The runtime is surprisingly short. Does it hold together well? I’d love to watch it.

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Another thing: I believe It would be smoother bringing back at least the scene where Leia wakes up, and maybe add back the mutiny subplot (trimmed to remove Canto Bight)

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JustDC said:

*I would probably cut out Snoke dragging Hux to the floor, and end that scene with “Supreme Leader Snoke is making contact”
*There’s an awkward cut from Luke’s “Where’s Han” to the three of them sitting outside. Maybe add a scene in between to get rid of that slightly jarring transition?

Thanks to everyone for the feedback! The 2 instances noted in the quote above are something I’m working on. The transition on the “where’s Han?” scene was a tough one because there isn’t really anything i can place in between given the ordering of this cut - I’m still working on it and agree it would be great to have something to break it up.

The Hux being dragged across the floor scene was another thing i wanted to cut, but the “We’ve got them tied on a string” line is then referred back to by Snoke later on… so there’s a bit of a ripple effect that comes along with editing that scene. I’m still playing with that as well.

Keep the feedback coming - i appreciate it and I’m glad to see people enjoying this cut!

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Well, I just finished my viewing of the Clean Cut Edition.

First, I want to pay a big kudo’s for the amount of effort and attention to detail in this edit, it is very well done. Second, I want to say that I enjoyed this edit immensely. I’ve given edit’s like this a go in the past, and it is always difficult to balance between cuts and maintainability of a solid story. ForceGhostREcon, you did a great job on this edit.

I will start by saying on record that Ep 8 was a big crap-sandwich that was so nonsensical that I could not suspend my disbelief. I hated it. What this edit has done is made a solid Star Wars movie, with a well thought out plot. I really enjoyed it. This is exactly the kind of edit I would do, and I am happy live vicariously through ForceGhostRecon.

Things I like:

  • Great intro to Rebels, Luke, and all characters.
  • Create cutting of the garbage dialog.
  • Consistent pacing with a focus on the Rey, Kylo, and Luke. It is clear to see how well the movie flows without the unnecessary side plots. The movie is no longer one big slow car chase scene.
  • Tighter final battle sequence.
  • No scenes with Rose in it. It’s so clear after watching this cut how much it distracts from the key elements in the movie.
  • No need to try to explain HOW they are being tracked through Hyperspace, but just dealing with the fact that they are! This worked better than I had wondered about.
  • Awesome ending with Luke, Leia, and Rey

Like others, I did notice a small bit of a jumping to launching escape transports (which we all know from Ep V could just hyperspace away!) and the intro of Holdo. Having said that, it did not take away from the movie, and I understand the tradeoffs made in editing. Clearly Holdo was brave and someone important - we don’t need to spoon-feed the audience backstories and explanations but rather let my imagination fill in the blank and Leia’s expression stand on it’s own. I have seen an edit where they cut out Snoke strangling Hux at the start, and I do think it flows better (even with the reference later on).

I could go on. But I want to end with a big thank you. 9.5/10. Very well done. I will be passing this on.

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Thanks for all your feedback! I’m working on a V3, which will cut Hux being slammed and dragged and also fix the “Wait… where’s Han?” transition. I’m glad everyone enjoyed it

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HKseriesDroid said:

Another thing: I believe It would be smoother bringing back at least the scene where Leia wakes up, and maybe add back the mutiny subplot (trimmed to remove Canto Bight)

I’d love to salvage Leia waking up, and I played with the idea… but I can’t justify her blasting the door open and stunning Poe for no reason.

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ifsarbaby said:

Well, I just finished my viewing of the Clean Cut Edition.

First, I want to pay a big kudo’s for the amount of effort and attention to detail in this edit, it is very well done. Second, I want to say that I enjoyed this edit immensely. I’ve given edit’s like this a go in the past, and it is always difficult to balance between cuts and maintainability of a solid story. ForceGhostREcon, you did a great job on this edit.

I will start by saying on record that Ep 8 was a big crap-sandwich that was so nonsensical that I could not suspend my disbelief. I hated it. What this edit has done is made a solid Star Wars movie, with a well thought out plot. I really enjoyed it. This is exactly the kind of edit I would do, and I am happy live vicariously through ForceGhostRecon.

Things I like:

  • Great intro to Rebels, Luke, and all characters.
  • Create cutting of the garbage dialog.
  • Consistent pacing with a focus on the Rey, Kylo, and Luke. It is clear to see how well the movie flows without the unnecessary side plots. The movie is no longer one big slow car chase scene.
  • Tighter final battle sequence.
  • No scenes with Rose in it. It’s so clear after watching this cut how much it distracts from the key elements in the movie.
  • No need to try to explain HOW they are being tracked through Hyperspace, but just dealing with the fact that they are! This worked better than I had wondered about.
  • Awesome ending with Luke, Leia, and Rey

Like others, I did notice a small bit of a jumping to launching escape transports (which we all know from Ep V could just hyperspace away!) and the intro of Holdo. Having said that, it did not take away from the movie, and I understand the tradeoffs made in editing. Clearly Holdo was brave and someone important - we don’t need to spoon-feed the audience backstories and explanations but rather let my imagination fill in the blank and Leia’s expression stand on it’s own. I have seen an edit where they cut out Snoke strangling Hux at the start, and I do think it flows better (even with the reference later on).

I could go on. But I want to end with a big thank you. 9.5/10. Very well done. I will be passing this on.

thanks for the feedback!

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I love your current version, does a much better job of keeping the central themes and plot on-point without needless side adventures or forced relationships. About the only niggle I have is that cut to black just after Luke says “where’s han?” and his reaction. It just felt like something could have been inserted there or there could have been a better dissolve. Other than that, it’s a good take.

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I wasn’t able to play the video on my iPhone. I’ll try on a desktop later. It says wait a few minutes for a proper mobile format.

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JediB said:

I wasn’t able to play the video on my iPhone. I’ll try on a desktop later. It says wait a few minutes for a proper mobile format.

Download the VLC app, it will play it and just about anything else.

“You can’t polish a turd. But you can shape it to look like candy.”

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I watched the edit and plan to again. I really enjoyed it, and in a way that I didn’t with the theatrical release.

The pacing is better. There aren’t really any parts where the story stops or detours. There may even be room for a bit more added back in.

Holdo’s first appearance is jarring. I like the reduction of the “Poe is bad, scold him for being bold” line of garbage from the original. It does take away from the payoff of Holdo. She didn’t earn it.

I love the improvement to Luke and to Princess Poppins. That is so much better and is part of the great de-cheesing.

The best thing is that cutting out the flat comedy really helped. The first order is more menacing. The whole first battle scene had more urgency and higher stakes because of the reduced silliness. I always thought it was strange Rian Johnson chose to have comic relief in the first scene when the stakes are being set up. Ridiculous.

I don’t miss Rose, but I do miss Finn’s arc from the original a bit. Still, worth it for how it refocuses things on Luke and for having the movie not stop for speeches.

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A very good edit, which makes a bad movie more enjoyable. ForceGhostRecon can’t reshoot the movie, he can’t change the changes of the force itself and he can’t conjure up new actors either (Hux).
But he can better editing what I still don’t like (Leia Poppins) and he has achieved that excellently.

A small request : Can you make Yoda more “ghostly”, like the force ghosts in the old movies were?

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V3 is coming later today. New cuts:

  • Rebel girl’s “oh no” has been cut from the opening rebel escape scene.

  • Hux being slammed and dragged by Snoke has been cut

  • Trimmed excessive unrealistic amount of time ‘bomber girl’ takes to catch the detonator

  • Fixed Luke’s ‘where’s Han’ moment.
    In this version, Snoke is talking to Kylo and scene ends with “you’re just a child in a mask” - transition to scene of Rey barging in on Luke with Chewy… “wait, where’s Han?” line… cut to Kylo in the elevator alone… helmet smash… cut back to Luke…Rey’s “there’s no light left in Kylo Ren” line

anyone interested in this V3, PM me.

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Just viewed V3…yes! the switch from “Where’s Han” to Kylo to Luke again works much better.

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Cameron Samurai said:

Just viewed V3…yes! the switch from “Where’s Han” to Kylo to Luke again works much better.

Thanks for the feedback! I agree it works much better now - I’m glad you enjoyed it!

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Cameron Samurai said:

Just viewed V3…yes! the switch from “Where’s Han” to Kylo to Luke again works much better.

I agree, this Is probably the best possible solution. However I feel that the Hux/Snoke conversation Need to be reinstated, because in the throne room in V3 It seems that Snoke Is pleased with Hux forse real, losing the psychological game he uses with Kylo. I’m also a fan of Luke disappearing at the end (both for continuity and for his arc) but obviously it’s your edit, not mine. I must say, this edit Is my favourite for TLJ, good job!!

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HKseriesDroid said:

Cameron Samurai said:

Just viewed V3…yes! the switch from “Where’s Han” to Kylo to Luke again works much better.

I agree, this Is probably the best possible solution. However I feel that the Hux/Snoke conversation needs to be reinstated, because in the throne room in V3 It seems that Snoke Is pleased with Hux for real, losing the psychological game he plays with Kylo. I’m also a fan of Luke disappearing at the end (both for continuity and for his movie arc) but obviously it’s your edit, not mine. I must say, this edit is my favourite for TLJ, good job!!

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HKseriesDroid said:

HKseriesDroid said:

Cameron Samurai said:

Just viewed V3…yes! the switch from “Where’s Han” to Kylo to Luke again works much better.

I agree, this Is probably the best possible solution. However I feel that the Hux/Snoke conversation needs to be reinstated, because in the throne room in V3 It seems that Snoke Is pleased with Hux for real, losing the psychological game he plays with Kylo. I’m also a fan of Luke disappearing at the end (both for continuity and for his movie arc) but obviously it’s your edit, not mine. I must say, this edit is my favourite for TLJ, good job!!

The Hux/Snoke scene was a tough call and was a hard one to edit smoothly. I ended up using some footage of officers from an earlier scene i had cut, to complete the scene. I really didn’t like original ‘Snoke force-slamming Hux’ and completely demeaning his character. I quite like the way this version of the scene ends with nervous Hux after the rebels escape to hyperspace. I feel it creates some tension/suspense and also some SUBTLE humor with the inference Snoke isn’t going to be happy with Hux and Hux knows it… like 'oh shit." When the throne room scene comes around, you can see Snoke and Hux are finishing up their discussion (when Kylo walks in) and the viewer can assume Hux talked his way out of it by the way he looks at Kylo as he passes him - “tied on a string indeed…”

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ForceGhostRecon said:

the viewer can assume Hux talked his way out of it by the way he looks at Kylo as he passes him - “tied on a string indeed…”

I see your point, and it reinforces the idea that Hux is a viscid coward opportunist (as we see later in the long live the leader scene)