The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!) — Page 4

Perhaps Poe wandered around for a bit after they crashed and then passed out. I’ve heard of people doing that after traumatic events. In the book he gets picked up by a scavenger I believe.

But why wouldn’t they keep looking for the Best Pilot in the Resistance and the traitor that knows about their entirely secret Starkiller Base? I think a squad of 8-14 soldiers in TIEs and perhaps a shuttle would find both people quite handily, especially since life detection equipment was in use in ANH and ESB by the Rebellion and Empire.

Since Poe says he was thrown from the crash, it makes it sound like he didn’t eject.

Do all questions have to or need to be answered?

DigMod said:

Do all questions have to or need to be answered?

Of course not.

My whole problem with Poe’s escape is that the movie tries to provide a single, pedestrian explanation for events when it should remain open to imaginative embellishment. It implies that Poe was unconscious for the rescue of BB-8, then found a way back to the Resistance in time to save the day at Maz’s Castle. It’s fine from his point of view, but it’s not particularly interesting and makes the First Order look like a bunch of incompetents for not finding him.

To make the scene happen at dawn it would allow for more interpretations, including many acts of derring-do which cast himself and the First Order in a far more impressive light. The film can suggest, but it’s a very Star Wars thing for the viewer to build the action in their imagination.

The color correction did look good. Was it your intent to continue the darker look through the following scene?

Here I’ve set it at 75% in the first scene and 35% in the scene that follows, so that it appears that dawn is breaking: https://vimeo.com/239303723
Password: Finn

I also mocked up a terminator line on the planet during the TIE escape to continue with the continuity, and found a place where the Apocalypse TIE shot actually makes sense.

This version of events requires Rey and BB-8 at Niima outpost to happen after this section, but I’ve got a version of events that works fairly well, and is more realistic in some ways than the original film:

-Poe arrives on the Finalizer, Finn is accosted by Phasma
-Poe is interrogated
-Rey’s day and finding of BB-8
-The Rescue
-Hux sends the squad to the wreckage
-Apocalypse TIEs
-Hux and Kylo bicker (work in progress)
-Finn awakens/sees Niima outpost
-Rey arrives at Niima with BB-8/Plutt bargains for the droid
-Finn arrives at Niima.

This solves the strange editing in the original where Plutt calls for some goons to beat up Rey and then we have to wait for Finn to rescue Poe, get knocked out, come to, run 20 minutes to the TIE, and walk for hours to Niima before the goons find Rey.

That worked for me as well.

Very well, I’ve removed the TIE shot. With that removed, I’ve had to return the Kylo/Hux bickering scene to later on.

Actually, it’s yet another case where a simpler edit may be more effective here, since the only real problem is the incompetence of the First Order. This could be solved by removing Hux’s line ‘Send a squad to the wreckage’. Now his final line in the scene is ‘They were going back for the droid’, and this allows for the implication that they will track Poe and/or Finn to BB-8. After all, in this new scene ordering Rey hasn’t arrived at Niima Outpost yet, so the First Order should still be in the dark about the droid’s whereabouts. Here’s the new order:

-Poe arrives on the Finalizer, Finn is accosted by Phasma
-Poe is interrogated
-Rey’s day and finding of BB-8
-The Rescue
-Hux learns the location of the crash
-Finn awakens/sees Niima outpost (I still like the dawn idea, but either way works now)
-Hux and Kylo bicker
-Rey arrives at Niima with BB-8/Plutt bargains for the droid
-Finn arrives at Niima.

I like this sequence since there’s a logic to the First Order’s moves. First they track Finn, then once he arrives at Niima Hux wants to destroy everything while Kylo wants the droid’s capture. Plutt’s capture attempt fails, so they resort to destruction.

Just wanted to chime in to say that I’m really looking forward to this fan edit. There is really only one other one out there for TFA right now and it cuts WAY too much and feels sloppy. Your ideas for this one sound very much like what I would like to do myself, but simply don’t have the time for these days.

If you need any help or suggestions, feel free to bounce them off of me.

Thanks for the encouragement! I’m still in the process of throwing ideas around. After the Starkiller Edit and The Last Jedi are released, I think the way forward in this edit will become more clear.

Posting the Hyperspace jump from Jakku here as well as in the Restructured thread:

https://vimeo.com/245069381
Password: jump

Just as a reminder since I don’t bump this thread for every update: The first post is a current list of all clips related to this project (and by extension some of the Restructured project).

Some of the TFA ships look a bit low contrast to me, so here’s an attempt to get it closer to the OT photography where some of the shadows were just black: http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/WDPNNN8X

Agreed, what a good change!

TIP: Remove Rathar sequence entirely. Proof of point, this took me five minutes to edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736lH16Szns&feature=youtu.be

It does nothing to the story, it destroys pace, it gives us deus ex machina’s, it gets Chewie shot within his first five minutes back into the movie, we are introduced to two silly gangs that serve nothing to the story or the characters and the CGI for the rathars is not particularly good or interesting.

Digmon did a good job shortening it, since there is some important information and scenes from it … you gotta have a good chunk of it.

jarbear said:

Digmon did a good job shortening it, since there is some important information and scenes from it … you gotta have a good chunk of it.

I don’t care much for TFA - so maybe I’ve missed something, but clarify to me what you would need to have.

Because when they arrive at Takodana, the first thing to happen is that two aliens report to The First Order that Han Solo, Rey and Finn are there. This is the only thing that I feel you could imply would be missing as information from the Rathar sequence.

Rey and Finn left with the Millenium Falcon from Jakku - and now Han Solo is there with them. Ergo, Han Solo has the Millenium Falcon again and the First Order now know where they are. It requires 10% more IQ from the audience, which - from my point of view - is a welcome addition to this mess of a movie. Only thing would be to add the Snoke speaking of Han Solo sequence to after they land on Takodana and enter the cantina, rather than before.

Removing the Rathtar sequence does this;

• Chewie does not get hurt his first 10 minutes back in the franchise like some imbecile.
• Han Solo and us, the audience, doesn’t have to talk to two very un-intruiging gangs that serve no story function than what could already be replaced by what I suggested above.
• Han Solo doesn’t get an deus ex machina the first TEN minutes he’s back in the movie, by accidentally being saved by rathtars espacing, just as the gangs are about to kill him - overstating it several times before doing so.
• and whoop; all characters seem smarter and doesn’t have forced situations happen to them for the sake of suspense, and we can all happily forget the mess even happened as it serves NOTHING to the overall story.

As stated in my first post, this edit will be reducing the Rathtar action, but not removing it entirely. It wouldn’t make much sense for Han to abandon his much larger spaceship if he was not forced to escape, and this scene also shows Rey making a very human mistake (“Oh no…wrong fuses”).

Ah didn’t respond fast enough … and both Ridley and Neverar point’s were similar to my thinking as well.

Also, I was thinking too once the line about the first order looking for 2 fugitives and a droid, that would be a bit of a confirmation about Rey’s and Finn’s story. You have 2 “kids” and a droid in your stolen ship … I would not right a way believe their story.

Granted, that is minor, but it also could help Han’s motivation to help them out too. Even a little bit.