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My only worry is that if we do go overboard on it. It may look more fanedity. I’m still curious to see it though. Loving this newest version.

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The third version of the eyes is very good, but I think she should has Sith eyes during the whole fight with Ren.

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This latest version of the eyes is perfect! Great work.

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One Of my other worries about having more sith eyes is that even Anakin of all people, Only had sith eyes for maybe… 5 or 10 seconds in episode 3, not even when he was murdering children so I’m worried about it being unprecedented.

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Peonthegrate said:

One Of my other worries about having more sith eyes is that even Anakin of all people, Only had sith eyes for maybe… 5 or 10 seconds in episode 3, not even when he was murdering children so I’m worried about it being unprecedented.

Well, following sequel logic it would be because she is related to Palpatine, who has Sith eyes at all times. Definitely not a good reason, but I could see it.

Also, Kylo just hurt (or possibly killed) her first friend, so it makes sense she’d be super angry.

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Yeah I can see it, I just don’t recall anything like that happening in any other movies (thats not a problem though in intself)

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Okay, I’ve put a subtle effect over the three shots of the fight where her eyes are noticeable. 😃

https://vimeo.com/562525043

Password: fanedit

It’s true that this is rather uncharted territory as far as canon goes, but Rey’s inner darkness is one of the primary reasons for this edit. It think it’s justified due to this edit making it seem like Han, Chewie, and Finn have all just been destroyed along with the Republic. It adds a ton of tension to the end of the film since Rey is resorting to the Dark Side to defeat Kylo Ren whereas it was implied that she used the light side in the original, an uninteresting option since it telegraphed that she was simply more powerful than her opponent, regardless of his momentary weakness. The edit of Snoke saying that he has sensed an awakening comes directly after this moment as well, so it’s very clear that Rey’s power is what he senses, and his ability to bridge her mind with that of Kylo later on adds even more evidence to this thought. Finally, Luke’s rejection of Rey makes a ton more sense if she has already gone so far to the Dark Side to achieve her goals. Rey’s plea with the saber at the end of TFA now has the extra drama of understanding that she is a dangerous student, something borne out in TLJ and beyond.

As far as VFX shots go, I have just two left to do:

-Delete casual Resistance officer in Leia Mourning
-Tweak Rey and Finn staring at Starkiller Firing

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Oh, I just noticed something interesting in this movie, maybe it’s been pointed out before but I don’t recall. It concerns whether or not it was part of the original plan for TFA to have the Starkiller fire at the end, and there’s potentially some evidence to suggest that the firing at least took place at some other time.

Phasma Maz Castle

Presumably, Phasma was supposed to be part of the Maz Castle attack, but right before this in the theatrical version we see her behind Hux as the Starkiller prepares to fire. There are several possibilities for what happened here. Maybe they never intended to have her at the battle and this was just a promo shoot. Maybe they cut her from the battle for some reason and decided to put her digitally into the Starkiller firing to have some explanation for why she was absent, keeping the Starkiller firing in the same place. Or maybe there were significant differences between the shooting script and the final product, where they originally intended the weapon firing to be at a later time but switched gears and filmed pickups of the actors reacting to the Hosnian destruction from Maz’s castle.

I guess what I’m saying is that the Restructured change works a little too well to be coincidental.

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Fuuuuck, spelling it out like it that makes it so good. In a way, it fits really well with what we’re already doing with Restructured. We all know that TFA is guilty of being a little to similar to ANH. But since the whole film has been establishing that similarity, when the Rebels 2.0 actually fail to blow up the Death Star 3.0 in time, it should actually be surprising to the audience. The film had set them up to expect our heroes to save the day in the nick of time, just like ANH.

With this version of Rey vs Kylo, we expect Rey to “use the Force” just like Luke and be victorious. Although Rey is also victorious, the audience should be surprised that our hero used the dark side to win. Whoa. Wasn’t expecting that.

But it makes sense, because no one has taught Rey the difference between the good side and the bad, and seeing her potential raises the stakes for why she needs some guidance. I know I’ve said this before, but these changes really change TFA’s weaknesses sort of into strengths when you use those weakness to surprise the audience in the third act.

It definitely makes me realize the Sith eyes are a simple, efficient way to show the audience that she is channeling the dark side. You wouldn’t be 100% sure any other way.

Why did you swap out the voices of Finn/Chewie for the Force whispers. I mean, I think it works, but I think her using her friends’ pain to feed her anger also worked well. It helped show the audience what she was thinking/feeling. Are those dark side whispers specifically? I felt like the whispers she hears on Ahch-To, for example, never felt like “dark side whispers” in particular to me.

I know it didn’t fit, but with you leaning into this dark side direction, it sort of makes me wish Han’s alternate death track was used when Rey beats Kylo!

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The Sith eyes reveal works very well but I think the heroic music that plays throughout to the end of the fight might undercut the moment a little. Would it be possible to go with darker music? Maybe a hint of Anthem of Evil from TROS or the dark cave theme from TLJ?

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Superb NeverarGreat! RogueLeader hit the nail with his summary. Exciting revision of TFA.

idir_hh‘s suggestion could work very well. Obviously something from Samuel Kim would be the choice?

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I took out the voices because it felt a bit too much, a bit too handholding, like ‘remember this thing that just happened!?’ The whispers are placed at two or three places previously in the film, so I wanted to focus on that as a sort of retroactive reveal as to what it was. I could make them sound a bit more Sith-y, but at what point is it too obvious she’s channeling Palps?

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I also like the way it is regarding the sith whispers. The eyes are already „on the noise“ so subtle whispers are fine.

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Sorry to go off topic, but Nev with the TFA edit almost completed were you planning on doing you own take on TLJ as well or was this a one off edit?

After seeing what you’re doing here I just think the are areas in TLJ that could be edited to portray Rey moving further to the dark side that other editors haven’t attempted in TLJ.

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stevepaynter said:

Sorry to go off topic, but Nev with the TFA edit almost completed were you planning on doing you own take on TLJ as well or was this a one off edit?

After seeing what you’re doing here I just think the are areas in TLJ that could be edited to portray Rey moving further to the dark side that other editors haven’t attempted in TLJ.

If I do, it won’t be for a while since I’m planning on taking a break after this one’s done. It also won’t be as extensive, but it isn’t for a lack of ideas. Even with the basis of TFA, Kylo now has a much stronger reason for believing that she will turn and join him at the end of the film. Dark Rey has a lot of potential, especially since, ahem, TROS.

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Great to hear. Your break will be well deserved!

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If you ever do TLJ, rekindled would be an amazing base to go off of.

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Really like the Rey sith eyes and its meaning with the scene. I dig it for both characters and motivations/fears later on. (Kylo motivation for her to join him, since she totally went Dark on him and her fear of going to the dark since she did it before)

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idir_hh said:

The Sith eyes reveal works very well but I think the heroic music that plays throughout to the end of the fight might undercut the moment a little. Would it be possible to go with darker music? Maybe a hint of Anthem of Evil from TROS or the dark cave theme from TLJ?

I agree, the heroic music is a bit at odds with Rey turning to the Dark side and it should be darker music. This piece from Samual Kim might work at 2min mark as it’s good mix of heroic and dark. But I would understand if you think it’s becoming to fanedit-y

https://youtu.be/UOEaZOHyo6w

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With the edit reaching its final stages, it will soon be time to finalize the list of contributors for the end credits. For this I’m listing everyone who contributed to this thread in any way, even if just asking for a link, and listing everyone who has helped outside of the thread in PMs, whether by directly assisting the project or providing a review of a workprint.

There are plenty of people who contributed to Restructured but who haven’t visited here, so for those I’m thinking of just putting a general thank you and direction to Hal’s project. As well there will be a general thank you to all members of OriginalTrilogy.com for being so wonderful 😃

So here is the probably incomplete list, organized by first post in the thread. If there’s an error or you would like to be removed from the list for any reason just let me know, and if you wish to be added leave a comment below and I will be contractually obligated to oblige 😉

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idir_hh said:

NeverarGreat said:

Yeah, I’m trying to stick to music from the film wherever possible and I think I tried the darker music and felt that it wouldn’t work as well.

I think this piece of music from Rey’s TLJ force meditation would work really well.
https://youtu.be/afs-mDiD9k4?list=PLauGpiqPcHu3WuqB570B09Rjtc1YiEBdp&t=86

PS: It’s an honour to be on the credits.

Could be working, i stumbled it upon myself. You‘re faster in providing it for the thread^^

Also Nev: Thanks for the honor and the work to type all these names😅