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One idea - There’s a new version of the main theme in the Rise of Skywalker end credits, it might be worth using that for the beginning of TFA’s crawl in place of the anemic one currently there.

JEDIT: It’s lacking the opening sting which is the main issue with TFA’s fanfare, but the Rise of Skywalker’s fanfare sting is quite strong in comparison to TFA and TLJ (which I think they just copied?). Anyway, I spliced that opening note into the TFA fanfare and I think it’s an improvement:

https://mega.nz/file/2EsXGLjS#7Ve8Pdy2i_SGdpjCkAVKs2ATJ9FqbuKxl2GZefzLYAk

What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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Sounds good. Yeah, I think the TFA and TLJ openings are the same track, which seems weird because I’m sure they would’ve done the opening again when they recorded the TLJ score.

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Darth Sadifous said:>

Any progress lately? Now after the events of TRoS, do you think you will change anything within this edit to make the trilogy more cohesive? Some have suggested the Dyad being mentioned in TFA so it is foreshadowed and isn’t so out of left field in TRoS. Anyways, I look forward to any future updates with this project. Loved the last version; keep up the great work!

One way to mention the dyad could be to copy Palpatine’s dialogue from The Rise of Skywalker to place in Rey’s vision at Maz’s castle, when Rey sees Kylo and the Knights of Ren.

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Nev,

I’ve read over your plans for the project starlight verison of The Rise of Skywalker and it seems quite ambitious. I am quite eager to see how you pull that endeavor off. However, at risk of sounding like a broken record I am eagerly awaiting an updated version of this TFA project. Do you think you will release a second version of this first or dive into editing your version of TROS first? I can’t wait to see the completed deleted scene of Kylo on the Falcon and your efforts to make Phasma a more formidable opponent for our heroes on Starkiller Base!

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Boost for update?

TPM ROTJ ESB TFA TLJ TROS ROTS ANH SOLO RO ATOC

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There hasn’t been much done, but I have gotten back to it a little and started applying some final adjustments. Rey’s final confrontation with Kylo now has almost no voices, now it’s just subliminal echoes. Snoke’s final appearance is given a bit more time to breathe, his final added lines have been adjusted, that sort of thing. The big unfinished elements of this edit still have to be done.

What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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Okay, here’s something new:

https://vimeo.com/439115290

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With Finn being added to her vision, removing her saying ‘Luke’ in response to Maz, and this shot, hopefully Rey’s sudden departure from the castle makes more sense.

JEDIT: Updated for more polished video.

What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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Ohh, interesting.

Man, you are so clever with all of these ideas.

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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Wow! I know you’ve talked about that idea but it is cool to actually see it.

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In that scene, Rey seems to be running quite a long distance before she reaches the ship whereas the ship is right next to the castle. Perhaps a different model could be used or the ship could be rotated/reversed/recoloured?

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

In that scene, Rey seems to be running quite a long distance before she reaches the ship whereas the ship is right next to the castle. Perhaps a different model could be used or the ship could be rotated/reversed/recoloured?

Well the point is to use the ship that Finn was boarding so it is implied that Rey will go with him (Yes, she probably would have no idea which one it was, but maybe she knows ship types, the Force told her, or at worst she’s just getting on the first ship she sees, whatever). I figure that she took a more scenic route as well, since she’s viewing it through the trees. Finn probably just used the path.

My original thought with this was to have her approach the front, but I have been able to find exactly zero usable reference material for the Meson Martinet. It might be for the better though, since it’s pretty unmistakable which ship it is.

What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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To create the illusion of distance between the ship and the castle perhaps the scenes where Finn leaves the castle and his arrival at the ship could be spaced out a little as well as the scenes of him seeing the destroyer and him arriving to inform Han.

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I don’t know if that’s necessary, I’m quite content with Finn taking the short path and Rey taking the scenic route. 😃

Another small thing for this edit, in the workprint I use the audio of Hux shouting ‘FIRE’ over the wide shot of the base firing, and this never felt ideal. I think this version, with a bit of audio from the LEGO game, works better:

https://vimeo.com/439473560

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Coming back to the final act of this film with over six months of distance, I am definitely feeling that the complexity in the Starkiller sequence does it a disservice. Right now the sequence is:

Han dies
Chewie detonates the charges
Leia sad
Lightsaber fights
Poe’s failed run
Ackbar and the 2 minute countdown
more lightsabers
weapon fires
Oscillator explodes
lightsabers stopped by chasm
Hosnian destruction
Leia sad again
Rey finds Finn
Hux talks to Snoke
Chewie and the Falcon

It’s just too complicated, the intercutting too fast for anything to land. In light of this, I definitely see the appeal of reverting the Starkiller sequence back to something more akin to Restructured 3.0.

I would remove the concept of the weapon recharging though, since I think it’s worth reassessing the idea that Poe and the pilots shouldn’t be taking ‘revenge’ on the Starkiller for the Hosnian destruction. It actually makes a lot of sense for Poe to be continuing the attack on Starkiller even after the mission has failed, since it is a straight line from that to TLJ’s “You start an attack, you follow it through.” A lot of the reason for this recharging plot point was due to considerations made before the release of TLJ, and I bet people would feel differently about this if it were being considered today. Furthermore, in my version Rey is being clearly driven towards a darker place with the destruction of her friends, and placing the Hosnian destruction alongside Han’s death mirrors this character movement for Poe.

So here’s a rough idea of a new sequence set to the Hosnian destruction music:

Han dies (cue Hosnian destruction music)
Han falls off bridge, weapon rumbling and possible exterior shot of weapon heating up
Chewie immediately detonates the charges where he stands, engulfing the wall in fire
Ackbar warns that the Oscillator is still functional, the Resistance officer says only “Admiral…”
First Order techs give Hux manual control, he orders the weapon to fire
Weapon fires, Poe and pilots react
Hosnian destruction
Leia reacts
Exterior of Oscillator, Finn and Rey running to the Falcon

What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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The simpler the better 😉

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It’s cool to see you coming back to Starlight a little bit. I do think this scene order is a lot simpler, and it kind of recontextualizes the detonation as an attempt to disable to the oscillator, rather than just trying to blow a hole in the oscillator for the X-Wings to barely slip in. It actually makes Poe flying into the Oscillator a lot more improvisational rather than being a part of the plan.

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Indeed! I figured it was always improvisational, but this would make that more explicit.

I was experimenting with the Oscillator sabotage some more in preparation for the big revision, seeing if it would work to cut away from the explosion with some additional vfx:

https://vimeo.com/440162329

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The next step is the big one, cutting Chewie’s rampage so he goes straight for the detonator and putting it all to the Hosnian destruction cue. That way Leia could theoretically be reacting to a one-two-three punch of Han, Chewie, and the Republic.

What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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I’ve been out of this thread for awhile but I’m starting to get the itch for Star Wars again and I’m glad to see you’ve continued to work on this.

Being out of the loop, I’m just wondering, what have you considered (if anything) for laying the seeds for Palpatine’s TROS reveal?

It’s been mentioned a million times but, of course, the sequel trilogy is lacking that cohesion. I’d love to see some “hints” at Palpatine (read: very minor) in The Force Awakens, with bigger hints in The Last Jedi.

Just wondering if you’ve had any thoughts on that — via Rey or Snoke or whomever.

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https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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I’m not planning anything on that angle, mostly because TROS isn’t canon for me 😉

If anyone wants to make their own inclusions later they are certainly welcome to, though.

What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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What’re your current plans, Nev? You’re most of the way through TFA, and a good way through TLJ, and I’ve seen some decent plans of yours historically. But I appreciate you seem to have cooled off on Star Wars since TROS, and haven’t posted for a while. No pressure of course, but what’re your current intentions?

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All of the TLJ concepts I’ve come up with are still just concepts, though TFA is nearing something I can live with. At the moment, my plan is to finish TFA and maybe do a less extreme version of TLJ to match up with the ending of TFA. I know there’s a thread for TROS but right now I wouldn’t put any money on it being done. Most of my remaining Star Wars energy right now is being put into an alternate Ep 9 script because that’s the only way I can think to do these characters justice.

What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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I can certainly understand the absolute disenfranchisement you must feel after TROS. I remember thinking (and writing on these forums) that it did so much retroactive damage that I wished we had a duology cut, or that at least any worthy conclusion to the trilogy might need to be butchered together from TLJ/TROS.

I assume that you’re scripting your own Ep9 because you need to conclude these stories in a worthy way, in order that you can let the whole thing go.

But that said, your TFA is inspiring, because it shows an approach that was willing to think radically but then apply rationally. Looking across the forums right now, the amount of technical skill on display like the force ghosts finale, the crackling saber, the new voice overs, all-new CG shots, and the things AlaskanSandman’s doing to the prequels, it feels like we have such a library of skill to pull from in order to justify radical thinking for whatever follows TFA.

I’d hope that, after Hal’s light-touch TROS is done, the community turns its eyes to the more radical options for capping off the trilogy, and I’d hope that your ideas would be a major part of that.

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Maybe after the pain has been blunted by time…maybe. 😉

Anyway, on this project I’ve gone back to an earlier concept for the Starkiller Infiltration. The previous iterations all felt too choppy and stitched together, so I’ve consolidated the Mind Trick scenes back into one. The workprint version of the Kylo Falcon scene came after the X-wing attack, which felt strange because it pulled focus away from that action for too long. Besides, it was originally supposed to take place before the fighter attack. Here I’ve returned it to a previous spot after Rey avoids the guards. With the addition of extra dialogue and that establishing shot, I think it works a bit better.

https://vimeo.com/459628132

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What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.
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I just had the random urge to check the threads tonight, and seeing a new clip from you was a very pleasant surprise!

I think taking a break from working on this has helped a lot. This is by far the best iteration you’ve done so far. Each scene flows nicely into the other, and I can’t even notice the seams of the cuts. And the way you connect each consecutive scene makes it arguably an improvement over the theatrical. As far as the scene order goes I have nothing to add.

Also, you might’ve done this in a previous version, but did you have the lights turning on in the hangar, prompting Rey to hide? That addition just makes the logic of everything make so much damn sense, that it’s kind of unbelievable it’s missing from the original. Really like the new stormtrooper chatter too.