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I can’t express how excited I am for V2. V1 was an incredible achievement on making the most of of TFA.

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Whoa, what? Up to what point were you doing VFX in premiere?

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I’ve been tinkering with the Senate Response scene a bit more since I’m not entirely happy with its integration in the film. The falcon landing leading into ‘The Falcon has landed’ works a treat, but it feels like it breaks off at the end without leading into anything else. Some version of Rey in the hallway and Kylo looking for her must come after this scene since Kylo’s scene must precede Han and Finn’s scene. Therefore, I must come up with a way to segue into Rey.

Here’s what I’m thinking.

“Black Leader, the Falcon has landed!”
“All fighters clear for takeoff, all fighters clear.”
“All teams, altitude confirmed, hold for jump to Light Speed.”

“General, the Senate has voted to mobilize the fleet! They expect to launch within the hour.”
“They haven’t got a chance.”
“Oh my, without the Republic Fleet we’re doomed!”
“And General, if our advance team is…destroyed…nobody can save us.”

-Cut to Rey.

Just a little dramatic foreshadowing with a double meaning for Rey Nobody fans out there 😉

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Really digging the shift to how the New Republic is depicted here, less overtly cowardly, just overwhelmed because they didn’t listen to Leia in time.

I think it helps clean up the storytelling significantly. Looking forward to v2!

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Thanks, and I agree. This is probably the single most important part of this edit for the greater story and trilogy.

BTW, I just updated the link above. I realized that there was an establishing shot of the Starkiller prisons that I had cut from the first version which would help the flow of this scene.

I’m not sure what to put for that final line.

“And General, if the advance team is destroyed…nobody at all could save us.”

Or

“And General, unless that shield is destroyed…nobody can save us.”

“And General, until that shield is destroyed…not even the Force can help us.”

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“Black Leader, the Falcon has landed!”
“All fighters clear for takeoff, all fighters clear.”
“All teams, altitude confirmed, hold for jump to Light Speed.”

“General, the Senate has mobilized the fleet! They’re launching within the hour.”
“They haven’t got a chance.”
“Oh my, without the Republic Fleet we’re doomed!”
“We need to destroy that shield… if not, no one can save us.”

Then cut to “no one, from nowhere” Rey

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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NeverarGreat said:

Good one! However, I’m constrained by the mouth movements to put the word ‘destroyed’ at the end of the phrase, so perhaps:

“And General, without that shield destroyed…nobody can save us.”

What about “And General,” only reason I didn’t have that was because it was repetitive. Also lets the scene breathe a little between C-3PO’s line.

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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So that whole new line is all the officer? I was kind of confused at first because the way 3PO raises his hand makes it seem like he got an idea or is trying to get someone’s attention. Did anyone interpret his movement that way? It seems like I’m the original deleted scene the movement means nothing, so I guess it’s okay.

As far as the actual line for the officer (bold is what should match his mouth movements):

“And General, if the advance team is… destroyed… nobody will be able to help us.”
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…nobody can get past that shield.”

I was kind of confused at first by what the purpose of this line was. But I kind of see it as the officer saying that whether or not we get help, none of it will matter if the advance team can lower the shield.

I also wanted to suggest a pacing for the first line based off the officer’s mouth movements:

“General, the Senate has just voted. They’re mobilizing the fleet. Launching within an hour.”

You could make that last sentence longer if there is more time, but I tried to truncate it just in case. It also kind of flows with the officer being in a rush to pass the info to Leia.

EDIT: Rewatching it, I’m kind of worried people will be confused why Leia is being pessimistic despite finally getting what she wanted. I think if the officer said “within an hour” rather than “within the hour”, it might help make it clearer that it’s gonna take too much time. Nitpicky, but I don’t know if the fleet launching in an hour or less justifies Leia being so confident in their doom. I mean, how much faster can they be, Leia? “Within an hour” makes it seem like it’s gonna take them a whole hour to launch.

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NeverarGreat said:

Thanks, and I agree. This is probably the single most important part of this edit for the greater story and trilogy.

BTW, I just updated the link above. I realized that there was an establishing shot of the Starkiller prisons that I had cut from the first version which would help the flow of this scene.

I’m not sure what to put for that final line.

“And General, if the advance team is destroyed…nobody at all could save us.”

Or

“And General, unless that shield is destroyed…nobody can save us.”

“And General, until that shield is destroyed…not even the Force can help us.”

I like the second line.

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After my long spiel I also have to say I think that second line would work well.

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Which one is the second line? I realize now that numbering would help.

And yeah, Threepio’s arm movement is just so bizarre in that scene. I originally tried to cut away from it but there’s so little footage that I can use, it will probably stay in. There must have been more to his behavior at one point. It looks like he’s remembering something or has been alerted to some activity. Maybe a couple of people have just dumped R2 in the corner and he is going to check up on it. Guess we’ll never know.

As for ‘within an hour’, yeah that makes sense. That’s why I originally put the line at ‘launching in 0200 hours’, but we can do several versions of that to see what works best.

JEDIT: And I might not even end up needing a final line after 3PO waltzes out of frame if I transition right to the snowy establishing shot, but it would be nice to have a line just in case.

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I think we’re both referring to, “And General, unless that shield is destroyed…nobody can save us.”

Maybe another off screen rebel could be calling for 3PO, needing his help. Or some droid beeps. It could just be a subtle background voice/sound, but something like that could provide some logic to his action.

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Wow, Nev, I’ve been a slacker on keeping up to date with this project lately but that Senate idea is compelling. Really hoping it turns out. It’s just what is missing from Restructured, as you highlight. The idea would be that they did “listen” to Leia’s emissary, but it was too late. We see their amassed ships be destroyed along with the Hosnian system overall, but a few could have launched to be there by the start of TLJ.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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I hope so too.

RogueLeader said:

I think we’re both referring to, “And General, unless that shield is destroyed…nobody can save us.”

Maybe another off screen rebel could be calling for 3PO, needing his help. Or some droid beeps. It could just be a subtle background voice/sound, but something like that could provide some logic to his action.

Ask and ye shall receive.

It’s funny, but also kinda brings the scene together.

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That looks pretty great! Leia’s new line works nicely, the dash of humour doesn’t break the tension or drama, if anything it kind of adds to it? Sort of a “Yeah we REALLY don’t need this right now 3PO” vibe. Never knew there were so many deleted scenes for TFA till now!

Also, I recently showed Starlight to my brothers, and they loved it! In their words, it was like watching the film for the first time again. We’ve collectively grown more and more jaded to the ST over the years, but this edit made us all enjoy Star Wars together for the first time in a long time, so thank you for that! (Tbf we were still constantly roasting TFA/the ST itself but the accomplishments of the edit were met with great praise)

I have a couple quibbles with the current version but they’ve mostly already been mentioned or you’ve already begun work on: Han’s leftover line when he orders them out of the Falcon compartment, Rey’s Sith eyes could pop more, some still-gold sand on Jakku (though having a bit of experience with colour grading I get that it may just not be possible to change the sand in those scenes without affecting skin tones).

One thing I did note (not sure if this has been mentioned) is that the sound when TR-8R slams Finn back with the riot baton is pretty muted under his “Pathetic!”, which dampens the moment. Could the sound be raised again without messing with the intelligibility of the line? That said, my brothers really enjoyed his new dialogue, and though I was sceptical the first time I saw it I liked it quite a bit more on this second viewing!

“I don’t believe it.”

“That is why you Yoda.”
Master Fail

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NeverarGreat said:

I hope so too.

RogueLeader said:

I think we’re both referring to, “And General, unless that shield is destroyed…nobody can save us.”

Maybe another off screen rebel could be calling for 3PO, needing his help. Or some droid beeps. It could just be a subtle background voice/sound, but something like that could provide some logic to his action.

Ask and ye shall receive.

It’s funny, but also kinda brings the scene together.

I’ve noticed that Leia’s Lego lines are pitched way higher than she actually speaks in the film. I’d recommend adjusting that a bit to blend in better.

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I just wanted to pop in and say this scene is coming together really nicely!

With that said, I don’t think Leia cutting off 3PO’s line works. I didn’t know it was coming and once I heard it, it threw me way off and I had to go back and rewatch it. Now, if you had a way to cut to her saying the line, that would be different. Without seeing her say the line, I think it’ll just be confusing as to what is happening.

SSWR’s YouTube channel

Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888

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That new test is funny! Thanks for trying that. I do see what SSWR is saying. It may help to get Eddie to do a few different line readings, and see if the timing would even work out.