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IanSolo said:

Just joined this forum hopin' to watch this fan edit. Is this still considered one of the better TPM edits? I keep wanting to rewatch the movie, but everytime I've done that I've totally regretted it. Ha!

Yeah his Episode II & 2 edits were great. His ROTS edit was a bit of a dissapointment. If you want a Prequel Trilogy that syncs with the OT I recommend the Fall Of The Jedi Episodes I and II and Hal 9000's Labyrinth Of Evil edit. But if you do get LOE you should get his first release because in v2 he brung back the chosen one subplot from the theatrical release. 

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Nice. Thanks for the info. How do people get these? Via myspleen?

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Doesn't seem like there is a way to get these anymore.  Info is down, and I had the links saved but there are several articles missing on the usenet.  What a shame, should have never deleted them.

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Possessed said:

Doesn't seem like there is a way to get these anymore.  Info is down, and I had the links saved but there are several articles missing on the usenet.  What a shame, should have never deleted them.

 Fanedit.info seems to be back up again now.  :)

(And as someone over on fanedit.org suggested, some kind of donation to those guys now and then would be helpful to keep that resource going)

Edit: TV's Frink just beat me to it.

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This is excellent news! And are the full BD25 files on myspleen?  I've got a big screen and I'm not watching star wars unless it's in 1080P... anything lower, high quality though it may be, just feels like a wasted opportunity.

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I don't think this edit is available in 1080p. 720p only. 

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Possessed said:

This is excellent news! And are the full BD25 files on myspleen?  I've got a big screen and I'm not watching star wars unless it's in 1080P... anything lower, high quality though it may be, just feels like a wasted opportunity.

 Wow.  I don't think I've ever seen anyone get so excited over the prequels.

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Not the prequels, my favorite fanedit of the prequels, and I was excited because now I can have my full saga the way I want it to be more than just the prequels.  (minus the fact that my rotj edit is far from being finished)

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Possessed said:

You're gravely mistaken.

 I would you love to reply "You will find that it is you who are mistaken", but you are maybe right.

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Well in a way we are both right anyway.  :P Because you see there was a 1080P version, but I'm having trouble getting it to download, so in a sense it *isn't available*, so I guess we both win.

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There are AVCHDs of this on the spleen. They are 720p.

Now, there is a version of them that's 1080p on the bay, but they're only 3GB to 4.4GB .m4v files. This means that their bitrate would be lower than  the AVCHDs, and therefore not as clean and sharp.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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There are full BD-25 versions available, good luck finding them though.  I've been trying to download it for days.  It's going at about 60 KB/s.

I'd just skip it and get the ones on the bay, and might actually do that for episodes 2 and 3, but for 1 he only has his v2 up which removes sidious from the film, so I'm trying to download v1 BD25 from usenet.  Should be done in 2 days...

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In case anyone was wondering, I did finally get the BD25 of ep1 to download on the usenet.  Looks glorious.

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Lord Haseo said:

IanSolo said:

Just joined this forum hopin' to watch this fan edit. Is this still considered one of the better TPM edits? I keep wanting to rewatch the movie, but everytime I've done that I've totally regretted it. Ha!

Yeah his Episode II & 2 edits were great. His ROTS edit was a bit of a dissapointment. If you want a Prequel Trilogy that syncs with the OT I recommend the Fall Of The Jedi Episodes I and II and Hal 9000's Labyrinth Of Evil edit. 

 Why?

FOTJ Episode III is better than the other Episodes III in my opinion. What is it about LOE that you would consider superior?

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

Lord Haseo said:

IanSolo said:

Just joined this forum hopin' to watch this fan edit. Is this still considered one of the better TPM edits? I keep wanting to rewatch the movie, but everytime I've done that I've totally regretted it. Ha!

Yeah his Episode II & 2 edits were great. His ROTS edit was a bit of a dissapointment. If you want a Prequel Trilogy that syncs with the OT I recommend the Fall Of The Jedi Episodes I and II and Hal 9000's Labyrinth Of Evil edit. 

 Why?

FOTJ Episode III is better than the other Episodes III in my opinion. What is it about LOE that you would consider superior?

 The video and audio editing is superior by leaps and bounds.

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I mean SPECIFICALLY what is better?

I enjoy that, in Q2's edit: Vader is not mentioned; the suit is not shown; and Padme doesn't die.

I would like for him to include a Kerr-style Palpatine "sith-reveal", but only if it looks good. Many other edits that have done this don't implement it very well.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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I successfully downloaded the Bluray version of Episode 3 from usenet and am now seeding it on the spleen. I will work to get Episode 2 up there soon.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

I mean SPECIFICALLY what is better?

I enjoy that, in Q2's edit: Vader is not mentioned; the suit is not shown; and Padme doesn't die.

I would like for him to include a Kerr-style Palpatine "sith-reveal", but only if it looks good. Many other edits that have done this don't implement it very well.

For one thing FOTJ Episode III had far more noticeable video and audio cuts than LOE. Q2 also took out the "I hate you!" line. Say what you will about the rest of Hayden's performance but that line was incredibly powerful and was delivered pretty damn well. It really comes down to the LOE's superior and quite frankly more professional editing in comparison to FOTJ episode III. 

It's been a while since I watched FOTJ Episode III and I have no interest in watching it again unless Q2 releases a v2. 

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Lord Haseo said:

chyron8472 said:

I mean SPECIFICALLY what is better?

I enjoy that, in Q2's edit: Vader is not mentioned; the suit is not shown; and Padme doesn't die.

I would like for him to include a Kerr-style Palpatine "sith-reveal", but only if it looks good. Many other edits that have done this don't implement it very well.

For one thing FOTJ Episode III had far more noticeable video and audio cuts than LOE. Q2 also took out the "I hate you!" line. Say what you will about the rest of Hayden's performance but that line was incredibly powerful and was delivered pretty damn well. It really comes down to the LOE's superior and quite frankly more professional editing in comparison to FOTJ episode III. 

It's been a while since I watched FOTJ Episode III and I have no interest in watching it again unless Q2 releases a v2. 

 I disagree about the noticeability of cuts. I've watched FOTJ 3 many times (and recently) and I don't immediately recall a scene that was obvious it had been cut. Maybe only the first line given by Anakin as we don't see his face delivering it, since Q2 wanted to have Obi-Wan appear onscreen first.

LOE has places where there is lots of action with not enough dialogue. The initial space battle carries on for far too long when there's nothing to gain by it, and showing R4 die when we don't care about nor notice him isn't important to keep. Having Vader in the suit in LOE ruins the revelation in ESB; FOTJ has no references to Vader nor shows the suit. Having Padme die in LOE creates an EU-nerdy argument about why Leia remembers her when Luke doesn't; FOTJ remedies this by having Padme go into hiding with Leia. Including Qui Gon when he is mentioned later is an example of George Lucas force-feeding us in case we don't get what's going on, and that scene is not necessary (plus Qui Gon's "No!" sounds odd). And on the subject of "No", why was Vader's "NooooOOOoooOOOooooo" left in LOE?! Ridiculous.

My only two minor quibbles with FOTJ 3 are that the opening crawl is slightly too fast (same the previous 2 edits), and I would would have somewhat liked it better if Palpy has a Sith-reveal as was done /exactly/ like Kerr for that scene.

I can't believe you picked that one inconsequential line from Anakin to specifically point out you didn't like being cut. I find the fact that Anakin was trying at length to kill Obi-Wan makes it quite obvious that Anakin hates him. That one line being in makes little difference.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

Lord Haseo said:

chyron8472 said:

I mean SPECIFICALLY what is better?

I enjoy that, in Q2's edit: Vader is not mentioned; the suit is not shown; and Padme doesn't die.

I would like for him to include a Kerr-style Palpatine "sith-reveal", but only if it looks good. Many other edits that have done this don't implement it very well.

For one thing FOTJ Episode III had far more noticeable video and audio cuts than LOE. Q2 also took out the "I hate you!" line. Say what you will about the rest of Hayden's performance but that line was incredibly powerful and was delivered pretty damn well. It really comes down to the LOE's superior and quite frankly more professional editing in comparison to FOTJ episode III. 

It's been a while since I watched FOTJ Episode III and I have no interest in watching it again unless Q2 releases a v2. 

 I disagree about the noticeability of cuts. I've watched FOTJ 3 many times (and recently) and I don't immediately recall a scene that was obvious it had been cut. Maybe only the first line given by Anakin as we don't see his face delivering it, since Q2 wanted to have Obi-Wan appear onscreen first.

A noticeable amount of people who reviewed it noted there were more visual and audio cuts that were noticeable in comparison to the first two. We're not making it up. The way the fight scenes flowed and the exchanges of dialogue were all wisely edited for the sole purpose of the edit. Something I can't say about FOTJ Episode III. In that edit the actual edits seemed more personal. 

LOE has places where there is lots of action with not enough dialogue. The initial space battle carries on for far too long when there's nothing to gain by it, and showing R4 die when we don't care about nor notice him isn't important to keep. 

For one the space battle over Coresaunt was shorter than the one in FOTJ. Secondly, Hal most likely showed R4 dying for continuities sake. 

 Having Padme die in LOE creates an EU-nerdy argument about why Leia remembers her when Luke doesn't; FOTJ remedies this by having Padme go into hiding with Leia.

This is a vile and odious lie! Hal inserted a scene from another movie with Natalie Portman holding a baby which signified she didn't die in his edit. 

I can't believe you picked that one inconsequential line from Anakin to specifically point out you didn't like being cut. I find the fact that Anakin was trying at length to kill Obi-Wan makes it quite obvious that Anakin hates him. That one line being in makes little difference.

This isn't some obscure line; it was the line that was suppose to bring the full weight of everything that transpired in the trilogy on the audience. And I can't believe you outright lied about something just as an attempt to win a point. And there were other lines he took out but the removal of the "I hate you" line was the most egregious. 

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Enough, please. I found a good amount of inspiration from Q2's work, including using The Cutter's idea for depicting Padme surviving the film. Prequel edits are plentiful and it's good to have options. Every decision that goes into an edit is a balancing act, and we often elect different goals. At least at this point, I'd say Q2's trilogy is the best option for someone who wants to (try to) preserve OT surprises in a chronological viewing.

My stance on revising fan edits.