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The End of the Jedi (Ep. 8 and 9) — Page 3

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I would like to make another suggestion for if you eventually do make another draft of this

for Luke’s flashback to a previous encounter with Ben I would recommend using footage from this video https://youtu.be/QwWrmSP65lM since it makes more sense in this edits context

also I apologize for being so harsh in my earlier comments it is still very well done and I did enjoy it

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No apology necessary. I appreciate your input!

I’m still working on a second draft but I’m really just trying to improve the Luke and Leia scene.

Good idea about the green lightsaber, I think I’ll try adding this!

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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Here’s an update on the new force ghost effects for Leia!

In my original scene (https://vimeo.com/524015706), I tried to get Leia’s force ghost to resemble Obi-Wan in Return of the Jedi.

But this makes Leia feel disconnected from her location and distracts from the actual scene happening.
Instead I changed the effect to resemble Yoda in TLJ. This helps her to blend into the scene better because the lighting matches the environment. This is also better for continuity because we see Yoda as a Force Ghost in the scene immediately following this one.

I also added a dynamic shimmer effect to give some life to her glow. Today I’m working on rendering some of these shots, so I’ll have a preliminary clip up within the next few weeks.

For reference here are the different types of force ghosts:

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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When I saw ROS in theaters I was really disappointed. There were pieces of TLJ that I liked, but ROS felt like a blotched rushed mess. This seems like it might end the saga with actually bringing Balance.

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Alove4edd said:

When I saw ROS in theaters I was really disappointed. There were pieces of TLJ that I liked, but ROS felt like a blotched rushed mess. This seems like it might end the saga with actually bringing Balance.

That is the hope!

I really loved parts of TLJ and really hated most of ROS. Combining the two allowed me to distill TLJ and use the plot of ROS to resolve the arcs for Rey and Kylo.

Balance was a big theme in my edit. When Luke said “It’s time for the Jedi to end” I took that to heart. I tried to bring that idea to fruition in my edit, by having Luke and Rey sacrifice themselves to bring a lasting balance to the galaxy without Jedi or Sith, only with the force.

“To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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Wow! Yes 100%. I was so excited when I saw the trailer and Luke made that statement. I said,“wow Disney is actually doing it. I thought they would stick to the Good vs. Evil dynamic forever”. I’ll have to watch the edit this weekend. I’m glad I found a community of people who are dedicated to the original concepts of balance.

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Cool! yeah, they really didn’t stick the landing haha

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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Here is the new clip!

The Force Plane: https://vimeo.com/553140805

Changes

  • Improved sound design - added synth to the score
  • Lengthened some shots for pacing
  • Changed leias force ghost effect
  • Changed effect for Luke traveling to the force plane
  • Improved rotoscoping on many shots

The rotoscoping is still far from perfect, but given that I had to rotoscope dark characters from a dark background, I think it turned out surprisingly well.

This scene is the biggest change going into Version 2 of my edit.

I would be happy to hear feedback, specifically on the sound mix.

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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The rotoscoping is still far from perfect, but given that I had to rotoscope dark characters from a dark background, I think it turned out surprisingly well.

I saw someone suggested making the background dark like moonlight. I was thinking the portal you could use could also resemble the portals in the World Between Worlds from Rebels. I loved that concept and it would be an easy way to use a darker transition.
https://youtu.be/v254mgxMmG8

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Alove4edd said:
I saw someone suggested making the background dark like moonlight. I was thinking the portal you could use could also resemble the portals in the World Between Worlds from Rebels. I loved that concept and it would be an easy way to use a darker transition.

Yes, its a good thought. But at this point, I’m not planning on making any significant changes to this scene.

I did attempt making the scene with a dark sky background, but it didn’t work because the characters faces are clearly backlit with a strong light, so the edges of their faces stand out and it looks really wrong. The lighting in the original scene is so particular because they are in a dark room with a bright light shining through the window.

I originally planned for my scene to take place in a familiar location in the star wars universe, like Mortis or the World Between Worlds. But eventually I decided that trying to replicate one of these locations would only leave much more room for comparison with my scene. Or maybe my scene actually IS the world between worlds, but we are viewing it from a different perspective. I like ambiguity haha.

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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Version 2 of my edit is complete! It’s available at the same link. The main changes were to the force plane scene as mentioned above, with a few other minor fixes here and there.

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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I would like a link as well. Thx!

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PM sent!

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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I would love a link please. Thank you for your work.

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Sent!

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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Can you sent on PM this fan edit ( the end of the jedi ) ?

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Link sent!

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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I watched this the weekend you PMed me the link and wanted to write a response right away but it resonated with me so much that I couldn’t help but rewatch it, rethink on your choices and dwell on how well your story works.

First off… I love the general story and liked it so much that it made me rethink what was possible with the source material. Luke’s last moment is a great choice. Repurposing Luke and Leah’s conversation at TLJ works wonderfully an epilogue to Ben’s death. This was absolutely a great and fitting ending for the Skywalker legacy. This is a Skywalker story through and through with Rey taking the mantle at the end from Luke. The Skywalker prophecy works even better since it doesn’t work as everyone expected. Annakin, through Luke and Luke through Rei brings balance to the force not just by destroying the Sith but the Jedi as well giving the force back to the masses.

I actually got a slightly different take than what you might have intended. This Luke is not necessarily going through PTSD but rather denial and depression. His optimism from RotJ is not broken by his failure with Kylo but from the inevitable knowledge that to fulfill his purpose, Luke has to allow the deaths of Leah, Kylo and now this new student Rey. He has this line where he tells Rey this won’t end the way she thinks. TWhen Luke knew Rey would die and early on knew Kylo needed to die as well.

While this might not fit your vision here’s some changes I think would greatly enhance this narrative.

  1. When you see the true flashback, Luke never takes out his lightsaber. He holds out his hand to sense what’s in Kylo and sees visions of Kylo getting stabbed by his lightsaber, Rey getting knocked down on Exegol and Leah looking forlorn. He further sees visions of Exegol and a quick flash of the Emperor. Kylo only sees Luke with Lightsaber in hand because Palpatine made him see that. Luke just had his hand out the entire time.

  2. When Luke goes to destroy the Jedi temple he does so decisively. Yoda doesn’t do it for him. Luke knows he has to do it so he does. He’s the Jedi Master now and doesn’t flip flop. He’s as big an authority here as Ben or Yoda were in the original trilogy.

  3. I think a quick edit of Force Awakens would be a good idea. When Kylo speaks with Vader’s helmet there can be distorted voices from the Emperor telling him to kill the Jedi and kill the girl. The idea would be that Luke and Palpatine and are moving pawns on the board. Luke, knowing the endgame requires a Queens Gambit, has refused to continue.

  4. Have you considered putting the Luke/Leah scene before Kylo’s death? It could serve as a scene where they bid farewell and as a step towards accepting the inevitable for Luke. Kyle’s death is also a but underwhelming but I don’t know how that could be fixed.

Don’t want to sound too negative because your vision really resonated with me. Great Job. This is how I wanted Luke to go out.

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Thanks for the thoughtful response. Sorry about going dark there for a while!

Your description above is right on! I am so glad to hear that the film resonated with you, and to hear that what I was trying to do worked, in that you understand the story in the same way as me.

I do think “denial and depression” are what Luke is experiencing, and I agree with your analysis, that Luke is really in denial of death, the deaths of his friends that he has foreseen, and the death of the Jedi religion which he knows must happen but he is afraid to let it go. But in finally letting go he fulfills his true purpose. That is one powerful idea that hit me while creating this edit.

Thanks for your suggestions, here are my thoughts:

  1. This is a good suggestion. I would have to review the footage to see if it is a feasible edit. I am not currently working on a v3 but if I do, I will take a look at this. I don’t mind the lightsaber too much because it is clear that it was a reactive move that he immediately regretted, but it would be cool to show that Kylo overreacted as well.

  2. I think this reluctance to destroy the temple helps us to understand that Luke knows that the temple must be destroyed but it is still hard for him to do it. Even here he is still holding on, he finally lets go when he sacrifices himself at the end. Also I think it would be difficult to make a compelling scene without the Yoda ending with the available footage. The constraints of fan editing.

  3. I have considered making an edit of The Force Awakens, but it was hard for me to think of many significant improvements that I could contribute. There are many fan edits of The Force Awakens that get pretty close to as good as you can get. My favorite I have seen is “The Starlight Project”. Next time I watch it, i’ll keep this in mind for improvements like you mentioned.

  4. In the Luke/Leia scene I was trying to show Leia as a force ghost because she has just passed on and that is how Luke can communicate with her, as she has become “one with the force”. Also Im not sure what the improvement would be to moving it earlier.

-> I definitely would like to improve Kylo’s death scene, but like you said, I don’t know how it could be fixed. If there was some way to cut back and linger on him lying there alone it would be very helpful in showing that this is in fact his death scene.

Thanks for your feedback, I really appreciate it!

Check out my edit “THE END OF THE JEDI”. It’s a 2 in 1 edit of TLJ and ROS.
[ “To say that ‘if the Jedi die, the light dies’ is vanity, can you feel that?” -Luke ]

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could I please have a link? this sounds fascinating

I like you, let us burn things together.