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The Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie. Or is it?

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This one's usually quoted as being the best of the series (and I personally think it is) but I still think that the adulation for it is a wee bit out of proportion to the actual merits of the film. There is an element of hyperbole to statements concerning the quality of this film.

I like Empire the most but one can't ignore the fact that it was the previous film that invented *everything* about the look and feel of the Star Wars universe. Star Wars exists without Empire. Empire could not exist without Star Wars.

Discuss.

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You know what, fuck this forum. You're a bunch of jerkoffs.

 

Cheers everyone.

 

 

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S_Matt said:

 

Star Wars exists without Empire. Empire could not exist without Star Wars.

You have to admit though, this line is pretty silly LOL, I thought the exact same 2 words hotrod did when I read it.

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S_Matt said:

You know what, fuck this forum. You're a bunch of jerkoffs.

 

Cheers everyone.

 

 

 

Not really so much as jerkoffs, just smart asses. Well id say tv frink is a jerkoff, but he's the only one... ;-)

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If that response offends you then good luck with the whole internet thing.

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As soon as I saw that he created this thread I sensed that this would not end well.

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LOL, especially calling everyone here jerkoffs.

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S_Matt said:

You know what, fuck this forum. You're a bunch of jerkoffs.

 

Cheers everyone.

You've been here what, two weeks?  If you bother to stick around, you will learn the various personalities and know better what to expect.  Ric Olie would have made that comment if HotRod didn't.

As zombie said, maybe the internet isn't for you.

Thread bookmarked for future inclusion in the LOL Archive, pending the direction this thread goes from here.

And I see what you did there, kilik64.  ;-)

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kilik64 said:

 

Well id say tv frink is a jerkoff, but he's the only one... ;-)

no, actually he is a smartoff jerkass, OH Hi Frink, how are you?

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For what it's worth, I prefer SW to ESB. Also, dramatically I think ESB has an unfair advantage as it doesn't have to wrap anything up, it can just HIT HIT HIT with the drama.

 

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I mean you're all jerkoffs.

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dark_jedi said:

kilik64 said:

 

Well id say tv frink is a jerkoff, but he's the only one... ;-)

no, actually he is a smartoff jerkass, OH Hi Frink, how are you?

Oh hai, doggy! ;-)

I prefer SW, but it's close.  I understand why people like ESB better, but I tend to watch SW more often for whatever reason.

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Empire also couldn't exist without Jedi, as it counts on Jedi to wrap up its plot threads.

Yeah. Mind=Blown.

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TV's Frink said:

dark_jedi said:

kilik64 said:

 

Well id say tv frink is a jerkoff, but he's the only one... ;-)

no, actually he is a smartoff jerkass, OH Hi Frink, how are you?

Oh hai, doggy! ;-)

Oh hey Frink! Two is great, but three's a crowd, ah ha ha

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greenpenguino said:

TV's Frink said:

dark_jedi said:

kilik64 said:

 

Well id say tv frink is a jerkoff, but he's the only one... ;-)

no, actually he is a smartoff jerkass, OH Hi Frink, how are you?

Oh hai, doggy! ;-)

Oh hey Frink! Two is great, but three's a crowd, ah ha ha

So you like SW and ROTJ but hate Empire?  Got it.

*shun*

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S_Matt said:

You know what, fuck this forum. You're a bunch of jerkoffs.

 

Cheers everyone.

 

 

 

Zigfried?

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S_Matt said:

You know what, fuck this forum. You're a bunch of jerkoffs.

 

Cheers everyone.

 

 

Ooops!  I've been away for a few weeks, I come back and upset someone straight away....

 

Oh well!!

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HotRod said:

S_Matt said:

You know what, fuck this forum. You're a bunch of jerkoffs.

 

Cheers everyone.

 

 

Ooops!  I've been away for a few weeks, I come back and upset someone straight away....

Since when did that bother you? ;-)

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Of course I'm right - SW is better than ESB.

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You're wrong. TPM is better than ESB...

 

 

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S_Matt said:


This one's usually quoted as being the best of the series (and I personally think it is) but I still think that the adulation for it is a wee bit out of proportion to the actual merits of the film. There is an element of hyperbole to statements concerning the quality of this film.

I like Empire the most but one can't ignore the fact that it was the previous film that invented *everything* about the look and feel of the Star Wars universe. Star Wars exists without Empire. Empire could not exist without Star Wars.

Discuss.


Interesting after seeing Ep I, II, IV, V, VI back-toback at the Imax in 2003 or 2004 (ROTS wasn't out yet) I definitely came away with the impression that Star Wars is the most rounded and best paced flick of the trilogy. However, Empire remains the "best" one for me because it has Hoth and Asteroids and Boba Fett and Carbon Freezing and no really dumb humour in it. And that music at the end is so emotional, how can you not be moved by that after everything that has led us to that point (including the first movie) and then there's obviously going to be a sequel, so how exciting is that?! And is Vader really Luke's father? I mean, really?

Empire contains all my favourite Star Wars scenes. It benefits greatly from being the middle one.

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miker71 said:

 

However, Empire remains the "best" one for me because it has Hoth and Asteroids and Boba Fett and Carbon Freezing and no really dumb humour in it.

 

What was the dumb humor in Star Wars?

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Mostly innuendo. "Look at the size of that thing!"

"Get on top of it!" "I'm trying!"

"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!"

"She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts."

Etc.

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