Thanks guys. I enjoyed the Rebel Scum fan film, and memories of the Jedi Knight game came back to me as soon as I found a YouTube walkthrough on the level! I’ll keep an eye out for #78 comic as well.
I did a bit of looking around myself on the books and found there are a few Hoth and post-Hoth battle stories in the “Certain Point Of View” book for ESB, and I’ll get a copy of that soon too. Thanks again.
I like that there’s a snake in Luke’s X-Wing before he leaves Dagobah.
Move along, move along.
I recently heard someone make the argument that, from what’s implied in dialogue in ANH, the Empire shouldn’t be able to maintain its control of the galaxy without either the Senate or the Death Star. A lot of Tarkin’s dialogue points to this idea that the Empire needs the fear of the Death Star to keep control of its subject systems. With that in mind, and given how ANH ends, if ESB had opened by telling us “The Empire is falling apart after the loss of the Death Star,” that would have been an equally valid path for the story to take.
But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.
And people say Death Star II doesn’t make sense…
And people say Death Star II doesn’t make sense…
DS2 is one of those things that comes off as repetitive to the audience, but makes sense within the universe.
But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.
If only Lucas had foreseen how profitable the '77 film was going to be. Then he could’ve saved the Death Star run for the third movie. Alas…
“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”
― Leo Tolstoy
Vader: “If you only knew the power of the dark side! Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.”
I get so wrapped up in how iconic each line is individually that sometimes I forget to think of how they inform each other. The latter is obviously Vader leading up to revealing that he’s Luke father, and it’s proceeded by him boasting how powerful the dark side is. The overall point he was trying to make is that the dark side is so powerful even he, a great Jedi Knight that Luke looked up to, fell for it. Implying that Anakin became Vader because he was power-hungry and loved the dark side’s power.
The OT implied a much more Walter White-esque turn then the one we ended up getting.
This could almost fit into the small details thread, but I don’t think it’s particularly obscure.
I wonder why they (Kershner?) decided it was so important to make sure Lando demonstrated proper safety protocols by wearing a safety harness & clipping in when getting onto the Falcon’s roof and grabbing Luke under Cloud City. It’s also such a shame any shots of Lando actually on the roof of the Falcon grabbing Luke were cut.
That was strange. Were the film companies at the time doing some “safety” promo work for the government around that time? Obi-Wan and Luke were shown to to belt up in the Falcon in Star Wars too. I think there was an anti-smoking advert with threepio and R2 around the time as well?
And the old joke about Ewoks having handrails everywhere in ROTJ, so they were actually more advanced than the Empire!
Around 1978 in my market they would play an anti drinking and driving PSA on TV using film from the Cantina.
I don’t always listen to Rebel Force Radio, but I tuned in to today’s show and learned there was apparently an alien guard for Cloud City that never made it into the final movie. The EU named him “Utris M’Toc.”
Move along, move along.
I don’t always listen to Rebel Force Radio, but I tuned in to today’s show and learned there was apparently an alien guard for Cloud City that never made it into the final movie. The EU named him “Utris M’Toc.”
Glad he got the cut. He looks like one of those lame rubber forehead aliens from TNG.
“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”
― Leo Tolstoy
He looks like a pale Rebels’ Thrawn
Man, I remember that guy… There was a CCG card on him. I bought a lot of Cloud City packs when I found a place 20 years ago still selling them. A blast from the past.
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
Glad he got the cut. He looks like one of those lame rubber forehead aliens from TNG.
After Utris failed to get the part in Star Wars, he auditioned for Star Trek where things went much better for him.
Move along, move along.
I don’t always listen to Rebel Force Radio, but I tuned in to today’s show and learned there was apparently an alien guard for Cloud City that never made it into the final movie. The EU named him “Utris M’Toc.”
Hasbro made his action figure years ago.
Superweapon VII said:
Glad he got the cut. He looks like one of those lame rubber forehead aliens from TNG.
He looks like the Traveller hahah
Aren’t there schools on the Enterprise-D? I would’ve thought The Traveler couldn’t go within 1000 feet of one.
So, a question. When Luke sees Han & Leia in pain, Yoda says “decide you must how to serve them best…” etc. Is this Yoda’s psychology to not have Luke meet Vader yet, even if it means the death of Luke’s friends? He says he doesn’t see if they die. But if they did, why would you say that you have to decide if to help your friends or let them die? Why would it matter, if Luke “destroys all for what they have fought and suffered” if he was to save his friends from death, isn’t that worth it? If Luke hadn’t gone, do you think Han and/or Leia would have died if Vader didn’t get what he wanted? What do you think?
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
In the end his friends are irrelevant to the bigger picture. He makes it clear that becoming an agent of evil is the worse scenario.
In the end his friends are irrelevant to the bigger picture. He makes it clear that becoming an agent of evil is the worse scenario.
Only if Yoda is certain about Luke’s turn and his inability to help. But why say “if you honor what they fight for” they should die, I don’t get that part. You can’t help people if you honor what they fight for? To make it clear, of course I do understand that Luke is not ready to confront Vader, but the way Yoda explains it to Luke doesn’t make sense to me.
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
Well his friends and their cause are two separate things. Until ROTJ anyway.
In the end his friends are irrelevant to the bigger picture. He makes it clear that becoming an agent of evil is the worse scenario.
Only if Yoda is certain about Luke’s turn and his inability to help. But why say “if you honor what they fight for” they should die, I don’t get that part. You can’t help people if you honor what they fight for? To make it clear, of course I do understand that Luke is not ready to confront Vader, but the way Yoda explains it to Luke doesn’t make sense to me.
you can help but you can’t interfere with their fight,cause it’s a fight they prepared a lifetime,it’s like you can’t change their destiny,which is to die for him so he will realise his importance…