The Empire Strikes Back IMPERIAL "AUDIOPHILE" EDITION - Restored & Remastered Score - J. Williams & LSO (Released) — Page 2

Ah, I see. Yeah I missed that. Sorry.

Interesting...

^ Despite the part of the OP you quoted I'm considering more and more uploading the whole set... I just owe that to this great place, and the great people I met (My mind can make abstraction of the rest). However I still don't know how this will be possible cause it seems I can't create an archive without corrupted tracks of a stroke.

Wow, count me in too, A B C.  :)

So what is in this definitive set? I am just curious what I am missing.

I've been away from the forums for a while, so I'd like to ask - ABC, should I get the new version? I know, rather stupid question, but I'm perfectly content with the AE, it's marvelous in sound quality, and it was very difficult to download all three disks. It seems servers as MegaUpload and the like just hate me, or something...

 Are the improvements/refinements of such great difference to warrant a new download? I'm not doubting it would be of high quality, just if it's different enough to the AE.

Thanks, and best of luck with any future restorations, ABC! :)

dark_jedi said:

So what is in this definitive set? I am just curious what I am missing.

The things that are wrong on the AE:

4 tracks have wrong pitch & speed

"Carbon Freeze" and "Vader's Trap" as I presented these as isolated cues are wrongly edited and cut (as the alt bit of Carbon Freeze wich should replace and not follow its original counterpart, so it needed an alt cue as a bonus track).

A few mixes were messed up on the AE because of me ("Deal With The Dark Lord" notably)

The new complete version of "Jedi Master Revealed" as you can listen on the IE DVD uses the film mix from the Anthology (layered with the LP) and not the bad 1997 remix I previously used = much more clear, better synchro and accurate stereo image.

"Mynock Cave" is now presented in its complete form (in the set and not as a bonus track as previously) with high dynamic range, notably thanks to a Radio drama bit. To notice this track on the SE is reputed having the good mix but I really think there are three recordings in it: 1) the unused begining fanfare, 2) the 1 unused thrilling part, 3) the used part that is featured with missing bit on the RSO album... And this last part really sucks to my hears on the SE, mostly from a dynamic range point of view. The IE DVD features this brand new complete track wich really rocks now next to the previous SE track the AE features.

For what is about the EQ's, I didn't touch that much. I explained how I worked previously, with a 16Khz equalizer. But the session mixes transfers from 1993 have frequencies that go higher: 20khz, wich feature this noisy shiny highs you can witness between others in "Swamps Of Dagobah" (aka "Crash Landing"), A "Familiar Place", "Carbon Freeze", "Vader's Trap"and a few others. The only track I finally left unmanaged from this point of view is "Losing a Hand" just before "Hyperspace", cause it would have killed the sound.

I played EQ's on a couple of tracks otherwise, and I notably calmed down "The Rebel Escape" for its far bass rumble, and the far spiky highs. The "Main Title" missed some basses, as was "The Asteroid Field" (I only re-EQed the one from set 2).

A last thing concern the balances as explained on post 2, "City In the Clouds"... As explained on post 2 again... Well, all that I'm tiping now is explained on post 2.

I invite you to compare "Carbon Freeze" from the sample section (post 6) with the one from the AE: focus on the highs and on the plenitude of the sound, and you should get the point. You can also compare the balance on Departure and Hyperspace: plenitude improved again.

Final point: the presentation. Here's what I added in the liner notes recently (tell me if I make some fault - you don't imagine how this is hard to tip for a non English. I still have to read again though):

The definitive presentation of the Imperial Audiophile Edition has benefited of the knowledge brought by the entire score reconstruction synchronized to the 1980 film (the Imperial Edition DVD), showing how many groups of cues were intented to form suites. Another contribution, invaluable, cleared the last shadows remaining thanks to J. Williams's piano sketches manuscript, giving notably the solution about the timing and editing of the "Crabon Freeze" cue and its alternate insert feature.

A "perfect" presentation of the Empire music could only be possible through alternate sets in order to consider judicious choices for listening experiences: the complete cue list archive, the original score, the original album reconstructed and completed gathering the highest dynamic range tracks, and the motion picture itself featuring the original score edited as it was originally intented to fit the film...

...

Burdokva said:

 Are the improvements/refinements of such great difference to warrant a new download? I'm not doubting it would be of high quality, just if it's different enough to the AE.

... So, there are not so much differences between the AE and the IAE in quality, and it didn't request a lot of work on the sound. But add all these things together and it should talk enough (Also I insist: check post 2 and see what it s about on the tracklist... Check the sample if your computer is good enough to allow the comparison).

EDIT: Also, the new set is entirely based on the previous AE CD3 settings (wich had Alt EQ's on a majority of the tracks that didn't fit with the far highs of the session mixes...).

About MegaUpload: I don't think I'm gonna use it again.

PS: the IE DVD as you probably understand now should figure in the set, and the covers for Set 3 will be made for the Album reconstruced + the DVD.

For the differences between each set I hope all is clear now... (?) :)

Thanks for the info ABC, so all I need is the updated CD's right and artwork? then if I am reading correctly, you are going to work ALL this up complete with the DVD and re-release everything in 1 complete package? that is a good idea.

... Well, for the DVD people will have to watch out ! :)

But yeah, I've  got all the CDs to reup, and as I told you winrar won't let me do that easily... :/

A B C said:

 

About MegaUpload: I don't think I'm gonna use it again.

... Afterthought, it's the only site that allows me to upload 700mb of a stroke. Sorry for those who have problems with it. I know I could use something else and split the archives but considering my problems for archiving I'll make it simple.

Thanks for the info, A B C.  My fidgety finger awaits the download button!  :)

As for WinRAR, I'm sorry you're having trouble with it and I know it can be frustrating.  What version of WinRAR do you have, and what type of machine and OS do you use?  You can PM the info if you don't feel comfortable sharing.

I'm using a damn (new) PC I don't know the detail of, and I'm using an evaluation version of Winrar (as before but since I reinstalled it there it's not the same deal as before). Sorry for the lack of precisions, but I'm not the specialist of those things here. I'm only the specialist in calibrating and using the softwares I need for myself. lol.

^^^ PM sent.

Have you tried 7-Zip?  It's a free and open-source compression utility for Windows that can save as RAR files.

http://www.7-zip.org/

Thanks ! I'll check it out too.

Yes, 7-zip works great.

Thanks to confirm, sure I prefer be using a freeware.

Oh well, I tried.

No problem, thanks again. I keep the one I got from you by my side in case of.

Did I just witness a drug deal?

:p

You're well placed to know I can have very bad frequentations sometimes !... :P

You're welcome A B C.  The professional edition I gave you will cause no problems.  :)

JediTray said:

The professional edition I gave you will cause no problems.  :)

Er.....uh-oh.

Hem... Ok, see you when I'll be released.

Gotta say that's not how I pictured you.