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The "Custom Special Edition" That Will Likely Never Be — Page 7

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I just put a small workprint version of ROTJ on the Google Drive in the same place as the other material. It’s not intended as final for the way things look, as almost all the video clips it uses are placeholders for final source material.

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I’m going to use NeverArGreat’s shot of the twin sunset, which he sourced from film and manually re-created the mountainside removal. For the surrounding shots, I think averaging out his and Adywan’s color correction looks very pleasing. Neither version or combination is a good match for the sunset shot itself, but doing it this way feels right.

https://vimeo.com/315092803
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Adywan:

NeverAr:

Hal9000 (blending the previous two):

Adywan sunset:

NeverAr sunset (which I am using):

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Just curious: what would be the result of blending the sunset shots ?

Otherwise, it looks good… even though I don’t really know anymore how the OT is supposed to look ! (who does ? 😄)

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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They can’t be blended because they use different sources. The only reason the surrounding shots can be averaged is because they are aligned pixel perfect by virtue of each being a color corrected BluRay.

NeverAr’s feels much more right than Adywan’s (his color corrected starting point, to be fair), and still removes the mountainside.

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I like your plan for this one, Hal. Ady’s shots are too mismatched, and I don’t particularly like the hyper-orangered of the close up shot myself.

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Something that came to mind watching that recent lightspeed footage from inside the cockpit and watching Adywan’s. I notice you see the blue lighting effect from the lightspeed light lighting up the cockpit. Watching Adywan’s edit I notice how he also applied it on the shot Han say’s “Stand by Chewy here we go, cutting the sublight engines.” It would be cool tp see that effect continuity in the edit.

All my life as I looked away to the future, to the horizon. Never in my mind did I know where I was, what I was doing.

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The shot of the Falcon exiting Hyperspace is neat but isn’t the bigger issue that they’re clearly not in a hyperspace tunnel for the entire scene? Also, doesn’t the change kind of go against the ethos of this being a hybridization of official versions only?

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Check here for discussion of exactly that - I assume the discussion is there instead of here as the end result will be applicable to more than just Hal’s edit.

And the “hybridizing official versions” angle was kind of rendered moot when Hal used Ady’s Revisited Emperor in ESB, no?

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Octorox, the Falcon will be depicted as being in hyperspace for that scene, thanks to snooker in the thread Ash linked to. So no problem there.

This is the one change I’m including that oversteps the project’s goals. However, it’s non-arbitrary, seems to me at least. What can I say? I have to go with my gut in the end.

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Hal why not flip the boba fett shots in Jabbas Palace? Just curious.

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Hal 9000 said:

Here’s a candidate for the entrance to Mos Eisley. I carefully blended Adywan’s color corrected BluRay master, NewGuy’s ANH, and the Despecialized. Sometimes I overlaid the first two in order to better blend between sources, since they align perfectly. A little film grain is applied in spots to help mask transitions between sources, also.

https://vimeo.com/310480965
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Do you plan on following Adywan’s lead in removing the little floater droid that passes by the Stormtrooper in the background? i’m finding it a bit distracting, especially since you’ve cut down on many of the other CGI additions.

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I remember that I removed the droids sound on NewGuy’s edit for my own custom audio track (just the second scene - where R2 and 3PO are hidding behind a door -, not the first because there was a slightly different timing between the OOT and the SE). I personally don’t mind them, I just don’t like their sound for some reason.

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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Yeah, the sentry droid has been removed in both its instances since that earlier clip was posted. Even for a SE alternative version, it’s rather distracting from the action.

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SWOTFAN25 said:

Hal why not flip the boba fett shots in Jabbas Palace? Just curious.

Flipped shots are your friends; they are done for reasons as part of the editing process. They aren’t mistakes, in other words. They imply direction, albeit at the cost of visual continuity. I have never been bothered by that aspect of filmmaking; it’s just what you do sometimes, especially if the film in question isn’t a modern, big-budget CGI endeavor.

I really admire Adywan’s two ‘Revisited’ projects, but personally I find the resultant film as having a very different feel to what I remember. It’s hard to settle down and just enjoy it because it’s so different throughout. I grew up with the 1997 SE originally, so perhaps what I feel is what some felt when viewing the SE when it came out. But, I am more than okay with the little quirks involved in making a movie like flipped shots.

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I’m sure that the OOT Death Star explosion in ANH won’t be as noticeable if you keep some of the OOT Battle of Yavin.

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I find that it’s better to stick with the SE battle of Yavin throughout.