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The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was — Page 17

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I’d welcome such a general purpose LUT. It need not match anything in particular, just to bring it closer to the character of the picture of this project’s ANH and ESB.

By the way, the new workprint is up.

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Hal 9000 said:

Currently encoding a new workprint for ROTJ using the 19SE as the primary source, since it was easy to do. This should be much more watchable than the BR-sourced one available now.
But, I probably won’t use the 19SE as the ultimate source because it is a different feel to the ones I used for ANH and ESB. Whether it’s Adywan adjusting the BR or someone else adjusting the eventual disc release of the 19SE, the ultimate source remains hidden for now.

Especially since Adywan just announced that he’s scrapping his 2011 BR color correction entirely and waiting for the new 4K masters to get a physical release…

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Thanks for making me aware of that! Well, sucks he has to jettison what sounds like a ton of work; I feel his pain. But, this project’s sources won’t be any more mismatched than the Revisited series.

Well, while we wait we can just press on with whatever R&D we can do with this temporary webrip.

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Just thumbed through the new ROTJ workprint and it indeed looks much better! I’ll try to give it another watch-through and look out for any issues.

That said, any particular reason you only chose to encode 2-channel AAC audio this time? I believe your TLJ V3 workprint and your previous ROTJ workprint both included 5.1 AC3 at 640kbps.

Personally I’d also be up for a higher bitrate 1080p encode at around 10ish GB considering the quality of the source, but I understand why you’d choose not to do that for a workprint release.

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Yeah, I skimped just because it’s a temporary work print release. Don’t feel the need to give it to close of a thorough watch through, as I really just reconnected the source in the timeline for the most part and gave everything a quick one over.

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Watching ROTJ right now. The “your mother” line - the cadence is perfect, but the processing still needs work. It doesn’t blend super well with the rest of Vader’s line. I’m not great with audio work like this, but I think it sounds too deep and “full,” maybe? Almost like it needs to be recorded to an analog source (like a cassette) and then transferred back from that. Or maybe just for some of the bass to be pulled out of it. Not sure.

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Yeah, while it’s cool I expect not to use it in the final version.

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An alternate Audio track would be cool with it in tact if possible. It’s not perfect, but it helps tie in Padme- this line change feels like the start of his transformation, drawing out memories.

I’ve always liked the first “No” as Vader picks up the Emperor. Obviously not the scream, but it feels like he’s finally broken through the fog. People that are fighting an alternate personality almost always access voice control first.

Preferred Saga:
PT: Hal9000
4/5: Adywan
6: NSP
7/8: Hal9000

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If I did use the ‘mother’ line, which it’s looking like I won’t, I would certainly offer an alternate audio track. Just like for ANH (“I wanted you to have this”) and ESB (“A Jedi Master who instructed me”).

And I will not be using the added Vader screams for that scene. I wish I could burn them from my sensitive audio-memory.

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nightstalkerpoet said:

An alternate Audio track would be cool with it in tact if possible. It’s not perfect, but it helps tie in Padme- this line change feels like the start of his transformation, drawing out memories.

I’ve always liked the first “No” as Vader picks up the Emperor. Obviously not the scream, but it feels like he’s finally broken through the fog. People that are fighting an alternate personality almost always access voice control first.

I, too, like the first “no”. Even though it felt like it really doesn’t belong, the idea of it works for me. It’s the 2nd, ROTS-style, bellowing “NOOOOO!!!” that totally ruins it.

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Hard pass.

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Hal 9000 said:

Hard pass.

lol, Understandable. If I were making an edit, I’d try to keep it, but it’d likely never sound like it actually belongs there no matter how many times I’d watch it and end up detracting from the scene. It’s probably just the idea of it that I like.

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Don’t know if this was already mentioned or not, but has it been confirmed that the Skywalker Saga Super Mega Box Set ™ is going to be the D+ versions or just another release of the Lowry scans? If it’s the former, I definitely think it’s the right move to wait for that before finishing up ROTJ like Adywan is. Those versions are by far the best looking official release. Absolutely gorgeous, especially for someone like me who has the ugliness of the Lowry 04 DVDs burned into my memory. Back then I didn’t even know how bad they looked LOL.

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I’m planning to use the new version for ROTJ once it’s on disc. ROTJ looks pretty good as is to my eyes, so I don’t feel the need to wait for Adywan to produce his color corrections first.

I’m not planning on revising ANH or ESB, though. They were done top to bottom using those sources and I’m not gonna start over from scratch when they look pretty good.

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Hal 9000 said:

I’m planning to use the new version for ROTJ once it’s on disc. ROTJ looks pretty good as is to my eyes, so I don’t feel the need to wait for Adywan to produce his color corrections first.

I’m not planning on revising ANH or ESB, though. They were done top to bottom using those sources and I’m not gonna start over from scratch when they look pretty good.

Thought as much - definitely the right move. But does anyone know if it has been confirmed if the next physical release (the box set) will be those versions? I feel like that’s what’s being implied because it’s being touted as being in 4K but knowing Disney they might want to hold on to the new transfers as a D+ incentive for a while.

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Hey, can I have a copy of ANH please? 😃

Creator of ‘Star Wars: A New Hope - Remastered’

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I’ll send you a PM.

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When you put out ROTJ would you consider adding the extra music in the Dagobah scene like Hairy_Hen’s 4K83 5.1 mix? I think it would be worth it at least for a alternate audio track.

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I’ll make a note of it. Might be an excuse to give this one an alternate track like the others.

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Also is there anywhere I could get the LUTs you used for Empire?

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I guess I could send those to you if you like. But I ended up doing a lot with them. A given scene, or shot, might have 33% of one LUT, 75% of another, and 20% of a third.

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Alright then I don’t need them. It was mostly just curiosity anyways.

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Hmmm… should I really remove the song Ben Solo was conceived to?

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Hal 9000 said:

Hmmm… should I really remove the song Ben Solo was conceived to?

What was that anyway?

Noah Lawson

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Yub Nub!

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