The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was (Released) — Page 32

Hal 9000 said:

• The crap Alderaan image out the Death Star window, as fixed way back by Darth Editous.

there was never meant to be a planet at all on the screen at this point. Notti strolls over and states “we have reached the Alderaan system” like Tarkin is blind and princess Leia also is oblivious to the fact she is at alderran too and act’s surprised like it was’nt there already.

The Planet was meant to appear only on the screen when Tarkin says “Home planet of Alderaan”. It was meant to be a reveal at that point.

Yeah that shot is rear projection but the planet does not look like Aldetaan. And that is the reason people keep changing it and disliking it It’s totally different. Some old slide projector probably with only 1 slide loaded. I can’t imagine some cassete loaded animation on this considering crew members were shouting “Bang!” This was more likely some sort of aide for the actors nothing more.

In the radio drama it plays out like a reveal which is i am sure probably based off the script.

It’s also posdible this was eakmarked as Yavin 4 it looks much similar to the mcQuarrie matte painting than Alderaan. The final battle was going to be at Alderaan at one time too. So Alderaam art became yavin 4?

Anyway having the planet on the screen at that point makes zero sense and it degrades the characters into imbeciles.

But when the planet is on screen there is another mistake… If the planet is travelling from right to left the stars should be going left to right. Then it will look correct rather than a flat image it will be 3D but with 2D images.

Ok so they decided Alderaan looked no good so they decided to keep the one shot of it looking different and then made sure all the others looked the same?

I think that scene is in the film to simply explain the viewscreen but it’s a bit unfortunate thay had not loaded something else in the slide projector…

To me anyway this seems like Yavin 4. Not Alderaan but it is perhaps Alderaan before it became Yavin… They might even have shots of a ben kenobi that did not die on yavin 4 depending on the shooting schedule…

I call it a mistake and enough people have put Alderaan in the shot all I’m sayibg is “No! Get rid of it, it’s not helping the story” the story is good but having the planet there to explain the viewscreen ruins the story.

The guy in the white who gestures with tarkin even inherited motti’s footsteps from the soundmix where Motti now has none.

Leia with the troops and Vader I don’t think has a soundmix at all just music. Put the footsteps the guy in white is given and you will see that it is Motti’s

Vader stops breathing throughout the scene too.

Ronster said:

…all I’m sayibg is “No! Get rid of it, it’s not helping the story” the story is good but having the planet there to explain the viewscreen ruins the story.

Well why wouldn’t you lead with that?

BedeHistory731 said:

Ronster said:

…all I’m sayibg is “No! Get rid of it, it’s not helping the story” the story is good but having the planet there to explain the viewscreen ruins the story.

Well why wouldn’t you lead with that?

Because it’s not in the screenply or script Alderaan it says was “green” but the white attire officer is not in the script. Only Motti.

Because of the radio drama version of the scene.

And because it does not have a proper sound mix for instance stealing Mottis footsteps for the guy dressed in the white uniform.

The guy in the white attire officer is not in the script only Motti. Where does it state about this officer?

Well I moved them footsteps over to Motti and it did match. So I will have to disagree with you on that one.

I think there is also a section of this in the battle of yavin where motti is behind Tarkin which pre cursors him walking up and saying “we have reached the Alderaan system.” So that scene was moved. Motti is not in the shot with the white officer he would be on the right hand side on the wide shot.

Scene 384 after Red Leader crash is where you see Motti precursor shot for this sequence.

It simply says Tarkin casts a sinister eye on the computer screen. Death star one minute and closing so that’s about everything covered really.

Yeah but that’s just cross wires… The actual scene that was meant to come before it is still in the film it’s just moved to another part of the film.

And as I said previously I don’t mind that they used that shot and I think it’s warranted to “explain” the viewscreen but what is on the screen does not do the story many favors.

But the fact Motti is not in the shot with the white dressed officer is the dead give away it was an insert to explain the viewscreen. And it did a good job of that but a poor job with what was displayed on it.

Personally I think It’s better constructed in the radio drama version of the scene.

G&G-Fan said:

It doesn’t “ruin the story” at all.

We see when Tarkin brings up Alderaan that the aim is adjusted so the planet’s in view

I’m only talking about the shot where he has his arms crossed behind his back and the white officer never once did I say anything about that apart from the stars should be heading in the opposite direction to the planet.

But yeah Tarkin Bringing up Alderaan on the screen you got there.

That guy with no name said:

I pasted the officer in white’s footsteps onto the motti shot like you said,
it doesn’t match at all:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iHnnR_QJNAA5S3tXwY4oRa93EtbvWs65/view?usp=sharing

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/250641294

The first footstep is off camera

No Issues with that Hal, I shared with you what I know and your decision is your decision of how to handle this. As even I think they made the somewhat right decisions.

My angle is remove the planet and leave it as a reveal like the radio drama does that is my preference but it’s up to you what you like and don’t like and I am not someone who would think of disputing that.

But I hope I have given you the knowledge of an informed decision?

Master Lawdog said:

I can’t seem to skip around in the video timeline as fluidly as I usually can. This is something that happens when I use my standard player and VLC.

I’ve downloaded but have t got any issues, just using a standard video player on Linux.

Must say Hal the new colour grading is amazing and am really loving these (not that I didn’t before lol🤦). Looking forward to see what you do with ANH now😁.

Hal 9000 said:

Oh, certainly. Again, this is the sort of minutia that makes this a diversion from normal life.

My thought on this is the finished film presents a planet in the viewscreen, after an exterior establishing shot of “hey look we made it to that planet mentioned last time you saw us.” So having Tarkin with a blank starfield wouldn’t feel right unless you removed it from the exterior shot too. Which could work, but would be a level of divergence I don’t want to bring to bear on “Star Wars (1977)”. (See prior pushback to me considering deleting the line about Ben never owning a droid!)

Well that video was an old video I put a link to and it serves a purpose to simply demonstrate the audio but visually I want to use the shot of the guy in the white and Tarkin but with this graphic.

https://youtu.be/Zn8b3MDMjQ4?t=108

Are the guys in white uniform some sort of weapons specialists or something like Krenic from Rogue one?

now I am sharing my imagination not what I know…

But also this feeds into the radio drama as I’m sure there is also a brief moment where they talk about “final superlaser weapons check” or something