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Seems interesting. I don’t agree with all the choices (that’s normal: every SW fan has his own “perfect cut”) but I like most of the ideas (especially about ANH and the project to structure the Mos Eisley entrance).
(Cover artwork pictured here by DM247)
Hal9000’s Custom Star Wars: A New Hope Special Edition
(This is Version 4 of this project.)
If the following strikes you as esoteric, I invite you to peruse the forums of Originaltrilogy.com.
First and foremost, credit is due to OohTeeDee for presenting the 1080 and 2019 versions of the filM; CapableMetal, Jetrell1969, and SilverWook for their combined efforts at making the theatrical DTS audio from the 1997 Special Edition available; Harmy for producing the famed Despecialized Edition (used in V1 and V2); Team Negative 1 for producing 4K77; NeverArGreat for producing his technicolor version; Sir Ridley for visual FX work; TMWNN for a few FX shots and help; Dat_SW_Guy for a FX shot; ChainsawAsh for encoding a DTS mix; and MalàStrana for assisting with subtitles.
Having satiated my restlessness with the Star Wars prequels, I wanted to put together a custom ‘Special Edition’ of the original trilogy to place on my shelf alongside the original, theatrical versions (currently represented by Harmy’s Despecialized Editions). I thought about calling them the “So You’ve Decided To Watch The Special Edition” version, because they wouldn’t be intended as one’s sole version of the films. Rather, a companion piece to the original versions, as a Special Edition should be.
I do not consider this a full-blown fan edit, as I am primarily hybridizing existing official versions of the film, keeping changes I can appreciate and excluding those I feel hinder the film. Of course, this is highly subjective, and everyone’s perfect blend would be slightly different.
The primary video source is the ‘19SE’ as presented by OohTeeDee. The primary audio source is the 1997 Special Edition theatrical DTS audio. Exceptions are described in the list of changes.
This project is presented in 1080p BluRay-compliant video, with DTS and AC3 audio tracks, and subtitles in English, Spanish and French.
Available as a 1080p BR-compliant mkv, 720p mp4, and a DVD5.
Here follows a list of changes made to the primary video and audio sources for this project. Changes new to Version 4 are marked with an asterisk (*).
***Video Changes, beginning from OohTeeDee’s color corrected ‘19SE’ transfer
***Audio Changes, beginning from the 1997 Special Edition theatrical DTS audio mix:
(I have included an alternative audio track that omits the following audio change.)
Hal9000’s Custom Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Special Edition
(This is Version 5 of this project. The 19SE remains the primary video source, but it has been color corrected using OriginalTrilogy.com’s DrDre’s Color Matching Tool to resemble Adywan’s 1997 SE Reconstruction project. I am very satisfied with the results. DrDre’s tool also allowed me to use Aydwan’s Revisited footage to fix a continuity error introduced in the SE with Cloud City’s window during the ‘Vader dinner’ scene. I also included a 2.0 stereo track which maintains ProLogic II compatibility throughout.)
If the following strikes you as esoteric, I invite you to peruse the forums of Originaltrilogy.com.
First and foremost, credit is due to OohTeeDee for presenting the 1080 and 2019 versions of the film; DrDre for his color matching tool; DrDre and Sir Ridley for providing color correction LUTs for the prior version; Adywan for producing his ‘Revisited’ and ‘1997 SE Reconstruction’ projects; CapableMetal, Jetrell1969, and SilverWook for their combined efforts at making the theatrical DTS audio from the 1997 Special Edition available; ChainsawAsh for encoding a DTS mix; and MalàStrana for assisting with subtitles.
Having satiated my restlessness with the Star Wars prequels, I wanted to put together a custom ‘Special Edition’ of the original trilogy to place on my shelf alongside the original, theatrical versions (currently represented by Harmy’s Despecialized Editions). I thought about calling them the “So You’ve Decided To Watch The Special Edition” version, because they wouldn’t be intended as one’s sole version of the films. Rather, a companion piece to the original versions, as a Special Edition should be.
I do not consider this a full-blown fan edit, as I am primarily hybridizing existing official versions of the film, keeping changes I can appreciate and excluding those I feel hinder the film. Of course, this is highly subjective, and everyone’s perfect blend would be slightly different.
I utilized three video sources for this project: The ‘19SE’ transfer as presented by OohTeeDee, OhTeeDee’s partial OOT restoration (D+80), and Adywan’s ESB: Revisited. The primary audio source is the 1997 Special Edition theatrical DTS audio, though audio from Revisited was used for a few scenes, and 2011 BluRay audio for one scene.
This project is presented in 1080p BluRay-compliant video, with DTS and AC3 audio tracks, and subtitles in English, Spanish, and French.
Available as a 1080p BR-compliant mkv, smaller 1080p mp4, and a DVD5.
Here follows a list of changes made to the 19SE starting point for this project.
***Video Changes
***Audio Changes, beginning from the 1997 Special Edition theatrical DTS audio mix:
(I have included an alternative audio track that omits the following audio changes.)
Hal9000’s Custom Star Wars: Return Of The Jedi Special Edition
(This is Version 4 of this project. The primary alteration from the prior version is to use OriginalTrilogy.com’s DrDre’s Color Matching Tool to bring the footage used from 4K83 closer to the primary source. A modest overall color correction has been performed, though it remains very similar to OhTeeDee’s color work on the 19SE source material.)
If the following strikes you as esoteric, I invite you to peruse the forums of Originaltrilogy.com.
First and foremost, credit is due to OhTeeDee for presenting the 1983 and 2019 versions of the film; DrDre for his color matching tool; CapableMetal, Jetrell1969, and SilverWook for their combined efforts at making the theatrical DTS audio from the 1997 Special Edition available; Team Negative 1 for producing 4K83; SkyDude for processing the 4K83 release; and ChainsawAsh for encoding a DTS mix.
Having satiated my restlessness with the Star Wars prequels, I wanted to put together a custom ‘Special Edition’ of the original trilogy to place on my shelf alongside the original, theatrical versions (currently represented by Harmy’s Despecialized Editions). I thought about calling them the “So You’ve Decided To Watch The Special Edition” version, because they wouldn’t be intended as one’s sole version of the films. Rather, a companion piece to the original versions, as a Special Edition should be.
I do not consider this a full-blown fan edit, as I am primarily hybridizing existing official versions of the film, keeping changes I can appreciate and excluding those I feel hinder the film. Of course, this is highly subjective, and everyone’s perfect blend would be slightly different.
The primary video source is the 2020 disc release, or “19SE,” first seen on Disney+, color corrected by OhTeeDee. The primary audio source is the 1997 Special Edition theatrical DTS audio. Exceptions are described in the list of changes. (Secondary source is the OTD version of ROTJ, partially restored to the theatrical version.)
This project is presented in 1080p BluRay-compliant video, with DTS and AC3 audio tracks, and English, French, and Spanish subtitles.
Available as a 1080p BR-compliant mkv, 720p mp4, and a DVD5.
Here follows a list of changes made to the primary video and audio sources for this project.
***Video Changes, beginning from 19SE transfer:
***Audio Changes, beginning from the 1997 Special Edition theatrical DTS audio mix:
(I have included an alternative audio track that omits the following audio changes.)
***I have included two versions of this project: One with the SE ‘planet montage’ version of the ending, and one that restores the original ‘Yub Nub’ Ewok celebration ending.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
I assume you know of my version of ANH, which is a hybrid Special Edition conforming to several of your desired changes. 😉
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
Seems interesting. I don’t agree with all the choices (that’s normal: every SW fan has his own “perfect cut”) but I like most of the ideas (especially about ANH and the project to structure the Mos Eisley entrance).
I assume you know of my version of ANH, which is a hybrid Special Edition conforming to several of your desired changes. 😉
Thank you for reminding me. It sounds like that and a future DeEd would be the way to go.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
While retaining the SE version of the Alderaan explosion, manually remove the added shockwave.
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So, here are all the changes that would require manual work, aside from cobbling existing sources together. For ANH, I suppose using NeverarGreat’s Technicolor project (for ANH) would be relatively future proof in executing any of these for the potential use of anyone, if there is desire. (ESB doesn’t seem to require any manual FX work.)
ANH
Ala Adywan, recreate the timing of the crawl in relation to the music (including the timing of Tatooine entering the frame), while retaining “Episode IV: A New Hope.”
This would require tampering with available footage beyond merely selecting between official versions. I would like to use only 2011 footage for the “Look sir, droids” scene, though manipulated to sync seamlessly with OOT timing. The beginning of the shot would need to be extended artificially. At present it would only be possible to do this in a way which is shorter than the OOT. It is minor, but I would prefer not to have this scene come off any choppier than in the OOT, while using only SE footage.
Mos Eisley entrance. This would require some technical work, rather than combining existing official sources. (See OP.)
Use 2011 footage as 3PO and R2 observe stormtroopers interview a man outside the Cantina, though manually remove the trooper dismounting a dewback in an unconvincing manner. Retain the SE dewback, however.
While retaining the SE version of the Alderaan explosion, manually remove the added shockwave.
Depict the Falcon in hyperspace after their escape from the Death Star. (Could be taken from the upcoming Revisited HD Remake, though would be relegated to 720p.)
Ala Adywan, retain the SE Biggs scene, though smooth R2’s vertical trajectory to avoid an awkward jump cut masked by a passerby in the foreground.
Manually fix the SE’s little issue where Leia starts to move her hands upward right as the frame freezes as we wipe to credits.
Manually fix the scale issue between the added Cloud City balcony and our heroes as they run past. (The scene where they meet up with R2.) Could borrow from Adywan, though would need to use the SE’s version of the sky over his for continuity’s sake.
ROTJ:
Either use OOT or apply manual work in order to remove two SE shots of Boba Fett with the SE backup singers.
Use the 2011 galactic celebration montage, modified: Matching the 1997 SE’s timing and audio, replace Tatooine with Naboo manually. (I could probably do this myself.)
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
Updated the preceding post and the OP to remove the idea of hybridizing the original and SE versions of the establishing shot/sequence of Han and Leia in their apartment on Cloud City. If I were trying to “thread the needle” with a perfect version, I’d like to do it that way. But, for a tweaked SE intended as a companion to a properly restored OOT, the SE sequence is just fine.
I also decided that it is worth making an additional exception to the rule by depicting the Falcon as being in hyperspace after the escape from the Death Star in ANH, as Adywan did. At first I thought, “It’s not like ANH had no concept of a hyperspace blue tunnel thing which reflects into the cockpit, because we see it when Han comes out of hyperspace over Alderaan’s location. They just, for whatever reason, chose not to depict this scene in that way.” But, then I remembered that Vader describes the company as just having made the jump into hyperspace immediately prior to the scene, and no passage of time can be inferred.
While I would prefer to stick close to the official versions, this and Adywan’s emperor scene would be worthwhile, wholesome exceptions.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
I’d agree with that reasoning. Ady’s Emperor scene was done amazingly well!
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
These are pretty close to ideal hybridizations, although I could disagree on a couple of minor things. It would awesome if they could be made a reality someday.
Incredible. This is an impressive list Hal, and a lot of elbow-grease type changes.
Updated the preceding post and the OP to remove the idea of hybridizing the original and SE versions of the establishing shot/sequence of Han and Leia in their apartment on Cloud City. If I were trying to “thread the needle” with a perfect version, I’d like to do it that way. But, for a tweaked SE intended as a companion to a properly restored OOT, the SE sequence is just fine.
I also decided that it is worth making an additional exception to the rule by depicting the Falcon as being in hyperspace after the escape from the Death Star in ANH, as Adywan did. At first I thought, “It’s not like ANH had no concept of a hyperspace blue tunnel thing which reflects into the cockpit, because we see it when Han comes out of hyperspace over Alderaan’s location. They just, for whatever reason, chose not to depict this scene in that way.” But, then I remembered that Vader describes the company as just having made the jump into hyperspace immediately prior to the scene, and no passage of time can be inferred.
While I would prefer to stick close to the official versions, this and Adywan’s emperor scene would be worthwhile, wholesome exceptions.
This is one of those things which I have always thought about every time I watch ANH. I’ve watched this film so many times that I am numb to the affect it has on my experience, but I still think about it. Glad to see I am not the only one!
This thing might not be as ‘out there’ as I assumed. I believe I have the resources I would need for ESB and ROTJ, or I would only need minimal help. No promises, as I am very busy, but I’m going to let this incubate.
JEDIT: The biggest problem will be source material. NeverarGreat’s color correction of ANH is fantastic, but I don’t see anything comparable for ESB and ROTJ. I would need a suitable primary source for the 2004/2011 version to begin with, in the same vein of NeverarGreat’s ANH.
Neverar, are you planning to give the other two the same treatment? DrDre has a thread about matching ESB to the SE grade which looked pretty good, too. For ESB and ROTJ, matching the OOT or 1997 SE would be perfectly fine. (ANH’s 1997 SE transfer had some color issues, and your technicolor grade for it leaves nothing to be desired.)
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
- Ala Adywan, retain the SE Biggs scene, though smooth R2’s vertical trajectory to avoid an awkward jump cut masked by a passerby in the foreground.
why you don´t use the complet deleted Biggs scene?
This thing might not be as ‘out there’ as I assumed. I believe I have the resources I would need for ESB and ROTJ, or I would only need minimal help. No promises, as I am very busy, but I’m going to let this incubate.
JEDIT: The biggest problem will be source material. NeverarGreat’s color correction of ANH is fantastic, but I don’t see anything comparable for ESB and ROTJ. I would need a suitable primary source for the 2004/2011 version to begin with, in the same vein of NeverarGreat’s ANH.
Neverar, are you planning to give the other two the same treatment? DrDre has a thread about matching ESB to the SE grade which looked pretty good, too. For ESB and ROTJ, matching the OOT or 1997 SE would be perfectly fine. (ANH’s 1997 SE transfer had some color issues, and your technicolor grade for it leaves nothing to be desired.)
I don’t see doing the other two any time soon if at all, unfortunately. Maybe when Poita’s unfaded scan of Empire is released and we see how crummy the Blu-ray is in comparison, but otherwise I’m hoping to focus on the Starlight fanedit(s).
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
Thanks for the clarification, that’s good to be aware of. Having the holy grail of sources would be the biggest hurdle to clear, and the only solution is time.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
- Ala Adywan, retain the SE Biggs scene, though smooth R2’s vertical trajectory to avoid an awkward jump cut masked by a passerby in the foreground.
why you don´t use the complet deleted Biggs scene?
The Special Edition itself did not use the entire scene, but edited out a brief conversation about Luke’s father. To mask the edit point, someone passes by in the foreground. As this happens, R2 suddenly is much higher up. For Adywan’s project, he smoothed R2’s trajectory and made it more gradual.
I am not suggesting cutting anything from that scene, but merely smoothing out a problem caused by how the SE has the scene cut to begin with.
Here’s a snippet of that portion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkZT7ETH_8
Compare to the SE’s version:
https://youtu.be/lWYtpdcbLEM?t=44s
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
The KK650 versions are pretty good primary sources for ESB and ROTJ. His latest incarnations have pretty natural looking colors considering there isn’t really a source for “accurate” colors on those movies.
Updated the preceding post and the OP to remove the idea of hybridizing the original and SE versions of the establishing shot/sequence of Han and Leia in their apartment on Cloud City. If I were trying to “thread the needle” with a perfect version, I’d like to do it that way. But, for a tweaked SE intended as a companion to a properly restored OOT, the SE sequence is just fine.
I also decided that it is worth making an additional exception to the rule by depicting the Falcon as being in hyperspace after the escape from the Death Star in ANH, as Adywan did. At first I thought, “It’s not like ANH had no concept of a hyperspace blue tunnel thing which reflects into the cockpit, because we see it when Han comes out of hyperspace over Alderaan’s location. They just, for whatever reason, chose not to depict this scene in that way.” But, then I remembered that Vader describes the company as just having made the jump into hyperspace immediately prior to the scene, and no passage of time can be inferred.
While I would prefer to stick close to the official versions, this and Adywan’s emperor scene would be worthwhile, wholesome exceptions.
Either you can show them in Hyper space or coming out of hyper space before the cockpit sequence starts that way you add an extra shot and the original footage requires no tampering with then.
It would seem really strange to go from, “They’ve just made the jump into hyperspace,” to a shot of the Falcon exiting hyperspace and Han taking his gloves off, IMHO.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
Personally I don’t think it would be that strange just we jumped forward in time to when they exit hyperspace.
Anyway I have been pondering what my perfect special edition version would be recently but I would roll back the whole tattoine section back to theatrical version bar sandcrawler extra shot and Falcon take off shot.
It would seem really strange to go from, “They’ve just made the jump into hyperspace,” to a shot of the Falcon exiting hyperspace and Han taking his gloves off, IMHO.
Agreed. The custom version I started on and abandoned years ago used Adywan’s hyperspace effect, too.
OP updated again for ANH, to reflect more thinking and refining on the subject.
In putting together a realistic battle plan for this project, here is what I would need (and a few wants included in parentheses) in order to tackle ANH, save for the upcoming NeverarGreat color corrected 2011 transfer and a Despecialized Edition based on it. Here follows what would be needed (or wanted), starting from only these two sources:
Re-undo R2’s jump cut on the Taintive (Neverar’s source re-added the jump cut, and he ought to be able to export an untouched, color corrected version.)
Add missing SE vaporators to one shot. (Or simply use OOT to remove them from the first shot.)
Remove one set of stormtroopers to a SE Mos Eisley establishing shot which are perfect mirror images of each other.
(Remove the shockwave from the SE version of the Alderaan explosion. If this were done, both Death Star explosions would retain their added shockwaves. Alternatively, Alderaan could keep its SE shockwave, and use the OOT for both Death Star explosions. The idea is to only have one ‘class’ of explosion depicted this way, rather than all and only OT explosions being depicted this way.)
Depict the Falcon as being in hyperspace during the “sometimes I amaze even myself” scene, with flickering blue wormhole visible out the cockpit and flashing blue light cast on the set. (Refer to Disney-era films for the look.)
(Smooth R2’s ascension into the X-Wing during the SE ‘Reunion with Biggs’ scene. The alternative is merely not to include this scene.)
(During the award ceremony, manually modify R2’s red/blue light to match the rest of the saga.)
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
I think that Alderaan with shockwave + OOT Death Star explosions would make the most sense.
will there be a german track in?
thanks
Well, it probably won’t exist for some time, if at all. And even then, the DTS 1997 SE audio will likely be my primary source, which would rule out any alternate language tracks.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
Your custom edition will be very close to the OOT, so it might be quite possible for anyone to adapt a dubbing track to it. If you begin to work on your edit, try to keep a logbook of the changes (with the timestamps), with that information making any alternate track could be quite easy. For your PT edits it would be too much work (and no dubbing exists for the deleted scenes anyway), but for the OT (and even the ST), it’s possible.
ANH is the episode that suffers the most of many bad SE changes (cgi rocks, Mos Eisley entrance, Greedo shooting first, Jabba,…). I like the fact you still want to retain the good SE elements (I personally like the cgi dewbacks - even the ones in front of the cantina, but I hate the one that goes in front of the camera, of course 😄). The SE Biggs scene is good. Would be a shame to remove it to correct a slight continuity issue with R2. What about reinstalling the line about Anakin ? (is the line inconsistant with the PT ? The actor was 37 in 1977, so “37 - 22 = 15”, he was just a boy when he met Anakin during the Clone Wars, or maybe sooner during Anakin’s training between Ep I and II. Is there a video file that could be used for that purpose ?)