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The Clone Wars - theatrical film

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I saw the film. Load of crap.

The interactions between the characters are so shallow. The animation is painful -it somehow manages to feel even less real than ordinary 2d animation, and it looks awful, plus being downright annoying.

Jabba callling his kid punky muffin. Can you imagine ROTJ’s Jabba calling ANYBODY punky muffin? This character has been so abused -the cutesey 1997 SE Jabba, the corpselike Phantom Menace and 2004 Jabba, but this is way out. Punky fucking Muffin. Why’s it so hard for Lucas to be faithful to the old material? This is more spitting on stuff from the old films. ROTJ Jabba was a great character and now we have punky muffin.

Ashoka’s eyes are about ten sizes too big. It’s sexist to portray female characters like that and make them look like little children.

And this thing is being passed off as a real Star Wars film. That’s a serious insult. And false advertising. Star Wars keeps going lower and lower. First the old films were mutilated. Then we had the Phantom Menace with its shallowness and cartoon characters and goddamn podracing. Then things got worse, with AOTC and the “romance”. Then we got ROTS, which was even worse and so bad I’m still trying to work out how it managed to be so bad. Now we have the punky muffin movie. If this is how things are going, I dread what the upcoming live action show will be like.

And the punky muffin movie is getting two dvd releases and I think two blu-ray releases, while all the OOT gets is laserdisc quality as a bonus feature. Will the OOT ever be on blu-ray? 20 years from now you’ll be able to get The Clone Wars on the current format and the OOT will be nowhere to be seen.

Have you heard Lucas plans to rerelease the OT to theatres in 2012? You can bet there’ll be more changes. David Prowse will probably be replaced by Hayden in a Darth Vader suit. To be more faithful to how Lucas originally envisioned it, back when he was a toddler or whatever.

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Did you ask for your money back?

I don't see a problem with Jabba showing a soft side. Characters in the Godfather movies love the heck out of their kids, but they just as easily commit murder, or order others to do the job.

Over twenty years pass between the Clone Wars and ROTJ. Anyone can also change a lot in twenty years, even vile Hutt crime lords.

Anyway, it's merely a pilot episode for the series, which is actually quite good if you give it a chance.

If Ashoka's eyes bother you, don't ever watch anime! ;)

It's not costing Lucasfilm anything to release a new film like Clone Wars in high quality. It's the OT Lucas doesn't want to spend any money on for a restoration and new transfer!

As for further changes to the OT...The world ends in 2012, if you believe the Mayan calendar. So problem solved!

Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:

Anyway, it's merely a pilot episode for the series, which is actually quite good if you give it a chance.

I have no intention of giving it a chance. I've seen enough of it as is. I really don't need to be giving Lucas's modern Star Wars a lot of chances. He established it wasn't Star Wars with The Phantom Menace and then it went downhill from there. The pilot movie is quite enough sampling this Clone Wars show for me. Annoying characters, shallow characterization and story, meaningless uninvolving action, dead-spirited coloration, hideous animation... I very much doubt that I'd like this more if I saw more of it. I think people really need to put their foot down and say "Enough already" -we've had enough crap from Lucas to do us for a lifetime. And this shit is being pushed as a real Star Wars movie, which means it should be judged by that standard. And it's bad enough as just an animated tv show. I can't bear to see Star Wars pissed on like this. He's already murdered Star Wars, does he have to piss on its grave too?

I gave this show its chance with this pilot movie and it failed horribly, so I won't be watching any more of it. I'll see what the live action show is like when it turns up, not that I expect it to be any good. At least it'll be live action. Serious Star Wars doesn't belong in animated form, just as cartoon characters like Jar Jar don't belong in Star Wars movies. Though it's pushing it to call anything put out in recent years "serious Star Wars". 

Silverwook said:

I  don't see a problem with Jabba showing a soft side. Characters in the Godfather movies love the heck out of their kids, but they just as easily commit murder, or order others to do the job.Over twenty years pass between the Clone Wars and ROTJ. Anyone can also change a lot in twenty years, even vile Hutt crime lords.

Calling people punky muffin isn't just showing a softer side. It doesn't fit with the ROTJ the Jabba character at any age, twenty years before or otherwise. But then Hayden Christensen doesn't fit with Anakin or Darth Vader either and they went with that, so "punky muffin" should be no surprise. No respect for what's been previously established -that's a key characteristic of modern "Star Wars". After all, Leia just IMAGINED that she knew her mother when she was young. And if something in the old films doesn't fit with the new ones, well then MR Lucas can go back and change the old beloved classic to fit the crappy modern movie. 

If Ashoka's eyes bother you, don't ever watch anime! ;)

Anime's animation style pukes me out. I don't get a kick out of seeing adult characters portrayed looking like they're deformed kiddies, and gratuitous cutesification isn't my thing.

As for further changes to the OT...The world ends in 2012, if you believe the Mayan calendar. So problem solved!

Unfortunately I don't go by the Mayan calendar, so I expect to find out what mutilations Lucas has in store for us in 2012. I expect Harrison Ford to be replaced by Jar Jar Binks.

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Yeah, I think it is suppose to be in 3D. Really, what is the big deal about more changes? The damage has been done. Game over. There are now two versions of the SE, by 2012 or sooner there will be no less than three. The fact remains, we still don't have the OT on a watchable DVD, we still don't have the original SE on DVD. Heck, we don't even have the theatrical version of TPM on DVD. And we will never get any of those either. There will be more changes, that is just the way it is going to be. SW has become a brandname and it is being marketed to death, the horse is old and weak, and once it dies the whip will keep cracking for a good long while. Nothing can stop that now. You have to expect that. You could tell me they are rereleasing Star Wars but with Han, Luke, and Leia all replaced with CG Gungans, and I wouldn't care. It really doesn't matter anymore. All that matters is the restored OT. The PT, the Clone Wars cartoon, and bazillion other SW TV shows do very little to sway the possibility of the originals being restored. Let them play their games, have their fun, and make their obscene amounts of money. Keep your eye on the goal and don't be distracted by none sense like this, stepping on the toes of the children being marketed to and the fans who are easily amused and entertained by cheap trick like this wont accomplish anything. There is one thing we want, and one thing we are after; stay focused.

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