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RELEASED - S04E05 DELIVERANCE

  • RELEASE VERSION.
  • Our fifth episode of season four. (Note, this is a slight shift in ordering - I’ve now shifted this to after Ahsoka’s Fall.)
  • Comprising the original episode The Lawless.
  • Running 24 minutes.
  • DOWNLOAD LINK is in the tracker spreadsheet, PM me for access.
  • Note: It’s recommended that you download this before watching, rather than streaming it directly from Google Drive.

This is the excellent conclusion to the original Mauldalore four parter, only lightly touched.

Noteworthy changes:

  • The episode is titled ‘Deliverance’, because many get what’s coming to them.
  • The crawl just refreshes us on the Mauldalore situation.
  • I removed a brief scene of Palpatine acting suspicious, becuase I don’t like this implication at this point in the chronology.

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Question for everyone:

I don’t want to take too many liberties here or deviate too far from what feels like it belongs in a TV show, but without revealing my plans, how much would you like me to break your hearts at the end of the Ahsoka’s Fall episode? I have an idea for a change to my usual end credits, but I’m wondering how creative might be a step too far.

In terms of generating a sad moment, where do you guys want this to fall on the spectrum between ‘simple and reflective’ and ‘emotionally devastating’? I think I’m aiming for ‘as heartbreaking as possible without being self-indulgent’.

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I’d say definitely go for it, but be careful of overdoing it into the realm of cheesiness.

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vranir said:

I’d say definitely go for it, but be careful of overdoing it into the realm of cheesiness.

+1. I like to feel the happiness as well as sorrow and any other emotions with or for a character as long as it doesn’t feel forced like „By the way now you as audience should cry“.

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You must do what you feel is right of course.

Your best work comes from your passion and having fun! So even if it might be a step to far, it can always lead you making a more impressive more unique edit! Besides, you’ve got a great audience who will let you know if it ends up being too far haha

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I want to be careful with this one. Ahsoka’s fall is such an important moment, and in the episode it concludes perfectly. The credits, uniquely for TCW, have a somber tone. I’m just wondering if I can pull off some additional value while we’re being somber, without being cheap.

Thing is, I don’t think it’s right for me to release clips of my ideas. I feel like my ideas can only be properly tested when they come at the end of a full watch-through of the arc, to get the viewer in the right mindset. So I don’t want to spoil it in advance.

I think I have three options, so I’ll go with the middle option, and you guys can let me know if I should tone it up or down based on that.

As for the arc itself, it breaks naturally into a duology, since it’s so great it needs only minimal cuts. We’ll end one episode when Ahsoka takes the dive into Coruscant’s underworld, then pick up the next episode when she’s fully on her own.

I’m only making a couple of minor trims. The first is cutting around the scene where a sniffer dog picks up her scent and is ignored by its handler clone (silly!), and the second I can’t remember right now because it’s so minor.

I did consider restructuring the story to add a bit more mystery, but ultimately this story is about Ahsoka’s emotional journey, not the mystery, so I think a softer hand is appropriate.

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This is a fantastic project. I have been following the thread for a while, and I finally had some time to check out an episode. I skipped straight to your episode that focuses on the Mandalore Corruption Arc, as it is one that I absolutely despise in the show. I had my doubts about how these episodes could be fixed, but I was pleasantly surprised by the product you finished.

I am glad that you take the time to outline your goals and ideas on this project, as I can say that I agree with them all. Clone Wars is in such an uncanny position in the Star Wars mythos, as it is simultaneously some of the most high quality and important Star Wars content while also being designed to be a cartoon aimed mainly at a young demographic. Your edit really helps guide the shows tone and not stray into the elements that feel too “cartoony”, while keeping everything that made the show special.

I really do hope you see this project through to Rebels as well, as I think that show could benefit from an edit like this even more.

I’d be glad to lend more detailed feedback as I continue to follow this!

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Thanks very much, it’s always great to hear people are enjoying it. Please do keep detailed feedback coming - it’s been a little light of late and I’m quite dependent on it.

I’m not sure I’ll pick up Rebels any time too soon, since I have many further ideas for TCW:R even after I’ve finished with the core release (which we’re not far from now, in relative terms), but at least there are a couple of other Rebels edits in progress with similar goals.

In other news, I’m just wrapping up the Ahsoka arc now. There’s a key moment I’ve tried to heighten in this arc via a decision I made right at the outset of this project regarding credits music choices, which I hope is going to add just that much more punch for fans of TCW:R.

Oh, and I don’t think I mentioned it here yet, but I have permission to use the full CG fan version of the ‘fireside chat’ scene from the deleted episode where Anakin and Obi-Wan discuss the loss of Ahsoka, which’ll find itself in the episode I release next after this upcoming one.

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Perhaps not a very interesting update here, but I’ve just sorted out the ordering for all of the episodes which fit in my ‘extended’ cut of TCW:R.

As a reminder-

  • ‘CORE’ TCW:R, AKA the “Quality Cut”, is the best and necessary content to tell the complete Clone Wars story in the most enjoyable possible way. It’s tonally consistent, balanced, flows well, and minimises weak content. This is the cut I’m completing first, and when finished, I’ll consider the TCW:R project complete. This is the version I recommend everyone watches. On my spreadsheet, this is episodes with their numbers marked in green and red.
  • “The Mandalorian Cut” is a trimmed version of that, which focuses JUST on content relevant to the Filoniverse (mainly Ahsoka and the Mauldalore stuff). Its episodes are coloured red. This cut is for people who want to speedrun the Clone Wars.
  • There are two bonus cuts which I’ll produce AFTER I finish the quality cut, which include bonus episodes, including extended versions of some popular episodes to bring back popular scenes (albeit ones I think aren’t necessary to the quality cut for whatever reason). The first of these bonus cuts is the “Canon cut” (yellow) which focuses on characters from the wider canon, and the “Complete cut” (blue) which adds in everything but the most awful episodes. These cuts are for people who are more tolerant of lower quality and weaker pacing.

Anyway, back to my point - I’ve worked out what order all the bonus episodes (for the Canon and Complete cuts) should be in, fitting around the flow of my Quality Cut. I’ve done this based on pacing (or storytelling) the following, in order of priority- Ahsoka, Ahsoka-Anakin relationship, Anakin, Maul, Rex’s Loyalty focus, Obi-Wan, Padmé, Ventress, Grievous, Dooku, season length. They’re now quite balanced based on those priorities, or placed in a way that they can add a little value to the surrounding content.

You can check that flow on the third tab (Order working sheet) if you’re interested.

Oh, and one side effect of re-thinking this is that I’ve slightly changed the order of the Ahsoka’s Fall / Maul’s Fall episodes, just to give Maul a little time to breathe, and also to give Ahsoka’s Fall time to breathe before we see the fallout on Scipio.

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Ohh very excited to hear about that news!

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Oh that’s a juicy update to me. I know I don’t really give the feedback you often ask the community (sorry about that!) but this is easily my favorite project on the site. The way you articulate your decision making process and organize it all in the spreadsheet is chefs kiss

Really, I never really have feedback to give because I see any change you make as just you executing your vision for TCW:R so there’s nothing for me to critic at least. I just find the process fascinating to watch.

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Haha, I appreciate that! Even a little nod like this that I’m on the right track is really helpful. Since this is such a HUGE project, my biggest concern is that I’ve made some key decision in an episode that the majority don’t like, which therefore turns them off to the whole thing. I don’t want to be losing people along the way and then find that when it’s complete there’re very few who enjoy this work. I’d rather put in a few extra hours (what’s a few hours on top of a thousand?) to bring it back on track if there’s something majorly offputting in here.

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I see any change you make as just you executing your vision for TCW:R.

It’s true, sure, and left to my own devices I’m happy to plow on with my vision even if it’s just for an audience of one (me). But for me, Star Wars is to be shared, and I genuinely want others to be able to enjoy this hulk of a show that they might not have otherwise. So I genuinely care to collaborate with, or at the very least listen to, collective concerns.

I already know that this is a project of stages - the core (first pass), some polish I’ve been ignoring, incorporating more feedback, then stretch goal five extended episodes, stretch goal canon cut, stretch goal complete cut, stretch goal prequel movies, stretch goal music, etc etc. I’ve got to wrestle with fanedit.org at some point, and should probably make a trailer once I’ve hit final core (at least). I might not get all the way but it’s clear to me this is a living project. (Hell, maybe one day I’ll even do the episodes I’m ignoring completely, just for the real lunatics amongst you.)

(The big moment I’m excited for is when the core is finished, and you can watch TCW:R end to end. Because then people will be able to feel the flow, the tension, the character arcs in the way that I think is going to be most rewarding - for the show itself and beyond - and that’s really it’s truest test. Right now you’re just seeing individual scenes from an unfinished movie.)

Anyway, that’s a roundabout way of saying that nothing, not even my vision, is set in stone, and I’m always looking to satisfy the majority - or at least keep as many enjoying this as I can.

…But I digress. ‘No news is good news’ is the attitude I’ll take, and I shall plow on!

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Unrelated: I desperately hope at least someone is downloading my episodes, because if Google takes me down and I lose my local drives I’d be devastated!

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I’ve downloaded up through season 3, but I’m still working my way through season 2.

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I’ve got all your V2 edits! Time to download the rest just in case!

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And I’ve got everything save for the two 03 series edits as well. Sounds like we have a few backups between all of us.

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I’ve now go the full collection of released edits and will continue to download your new releases as they arrive 😃

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Sense check please!

I’ve made a major update to the spreadsheet, trying to make it absolutely clear for people which episodes to watch based on their preferences. There’s a new set of content at the top left to this effect. Can you guys please sense-check it and see if it clarifies things?

(Right now it just distinguishes usefully between Core and Filoni-only episodes, but this’ll be more useful once I plug in the ‘bonus’ ones.)

Also, are you guys able to sort the table yourselves? If so, try sorting by episode number!

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RELEASED - S04E03 THE ENEMY WITHIN - & - S04E04 THE FORSAKEN (V2.0)

  • RELEASE VERSIONS.
  • Our third and fourth episode of season four. (Note, this is a slight shift in ordering - I’ve now put the Maul episode that was s04e03 after this duology.)
  • Enemy Within comprising the original episodes Sabotage and The Jedi Who Knew Too Much, running 45 minutes.
  • The Forsaken comprising the original episodes To Catch a Jedi and The Wrong Jedi, running 45 minutes.
  • DOWNLOAD LINKS are in the tracker spreadsheet, PM me for access.
  • Note: It’s recommended that you download these before watching, rather than streaming them directly from Google Drive.

This is the excellent Ahsoka’s Fall arc, with the original quadrilogy cut into two equal halves, split around the moment she drops into Coruscant’s underbelly (the original end of the second episode).

Noteworthy changes:

  • The first part is titled ‘The Enemy Within’, ostensibly talking about how the Trade Federation are attacking Cato Neimoidia (as the crawl makes clear), but then of course referring to both the temple bombing, and the threats from within the Republic, plus lightly Ahsoka’s doubts explored in this arc.
  • The second part is titled ‘The Forsaken’, again ostensibly referencing Ahsoka at this moment, but also applicable to Ventress, the people in Coruscant’s underbelly, and ultimately the Jedi for Ahsoka.
  • I cut the moment where a sniffer dog catches Ahsoka’s scent but its clone ignores it - the entire purpose of a sniffer dog owner is to trust what they’re telling you!
  • I cut Ventress spotting the Loth-cat with Ahsoka’s shadow. It’s a cute moment but I don’t think it fits the tone of the episode. Ventress still hears a noise and tenses, but doesn’t see anything (she just hears an animal squeak).
  • I cut the scene of Anakin reporting to the Jedi that he’s caught Ahsoka (while he’s escorting her back), to let me bridge the two episodes better. That scene was wrap-up to give its episode a punctual finish, now not required. The gist of it is echoed immediately after anyway, at what was the start of the next episode.
  • I cut the line where Barris says that red lightsabers suit her. I think it takes away from her a little - she’s not gone Sith, she doesn’t think of herself as evil, it’s more that she’s an objector to the war gone radical.
  • A slight variation to the last episode’s end credits, just to see if I can break your hearts a little more.

Interested to know what you guys think of the ordering of the first five episodes this season.

Onwards to Scipio, and Anakin dealing with the fallout of this episode.

Also, if you’re reading this message not long after I posted it, I’d appreciate if you’d check my previous post for a sense check!

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I’ve also just decided that I’ll release a single short (~5 min) episode to follow the entire TCW:R, titled CODA: Maul and Obi-Wan, showing their final confrontation from Rebels (and only the surrounding content that immediately supports that). It’s a very important piece of outstanding canon for those who don’t plan to watch that show.

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Can’t wait to check out the Fall of Ahsoka episodes!

Love the idea of a coda to the Clone Wars that includes that fantastic scene from Rebels. Just calling it “Maul and Obi-Wan” is a simple way to make it clear that is sort of a bookend to their story (or at least Maul’s). Calling it “Old Wounds” could be a nice alternative though.

Would you still do the blue opening text? It could help give context for the scene. I also wonder if it is worth it for a 5 minute episode. Would it work to just go straight into the short and trust people to figure enough out through the conversations, but still leave enough questions to make the audience want to go watch Rebels to figure out more of the story behind it. Just some thoughts, but I love this idea, since it ties back into the idea that this edit is meant to “refocus” on Maul, the Mandalorians, etc.

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Maybe I’ll call it “Maul and Obi-Wan Coda: Old Wounds”.

I don’t think it needs my two minute intro with blue text. There’s a nice Maul moment cold open then we’ll replace the Rebels logo with the coda title, then into the body of the short episode. Viewers can work out its placement from Obi-Wan’s hair colour, and imply that Maul on the run has finally made his way to Obi-Wan after years of searching. (We’ll ignore his extra appearances in Solo and Rebels, as they’re not relevant to this capper to the Clone Wars). I’ll only give it basic end credits too.

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