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Shiaoran said:

I’ve just realised that the DVDs, even the UK one, are cropped, compared to the VHS.

These are, in order, brazilian VHS, brazilian DVD, and the russian DVD. Note the detail on the right.

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Actually, only certain shots for each master happens to be cropped.

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This sounds amazing, and I look forward to hoarding the end product! It’s too bad every release we have is pan-n-scan (or probably just pan). This film is my childhood, and it’s good to see someone sprucing it up as an alternative to the shit VHS and DVD I have.

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togedu said:

I’m so excited. The restoration is almost finished everyone!

First off: The Sound. I got the Dolby Digital 5.1 DVD mix loaded up and cleaned up and synced with the 25fps version corrected to 24, then did some re-mixing into 6.1 DTS ES. I have done a few sound effect pans into the surrounds when appropriate and re-mixed thunder and lightning for the nightmare scene/rain sequence. There were also some vocal issues on the musical number so I did some tweaking to make the vocals easier to hear. I have also of course included the original 5.1 DVD mix and the original stereo mix for those who don’t like revisions. (This is Original Trilogy after all.)

I digitally rotoscoped and cleaned nearly 600 separate shots in the movie, and also completely digitally redid the opening and closing titles. The final result is a pretty big difference. (The PAL transfer itself is a pretty big jump to begin with.)

I also added a title card for myself to the end credits for restoration work, and added the blue Disney castle logo from that era to the beginning and end. (I know Disney treated this film like crap upon release, so it’s my way of pretending they didn’t.)

I know some of you may not like the “revisions” to the film, but outside of the opening and closing logos, I just did a heck of a lot of dirt and spot removal. I did use some noise reduction in shots but I am very selective in my use of it. I hope you will be pleased with the results. I also have been working on a short 5 minute video documentary about the restoration of the movie… Which I will premiere here when it is complete. I expect to be done with it in April. I also have finished the cover art and will share it at a later time. Next time I’ll post some before and after video samples.

I was wondering, though you’re almost done with the restoration, is there any way you can possibly create and include an instrumental “music-and-sound-effects-only” track as well?

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I had the sequels to this on VHS when I was a young 'un - “Mars” got it’s tape in a knot early on so I grew up on “Rescue”. Only saw the original last year - Glad I discovered it then, brilliant film but I would’ve been thoroughly ‘twamatised’ by it if I’d seen it when I had the others… I’m glad it’s finally getting the restoration treatment it deserves, looking superb so far! 😉

Where did you get the 5.1 audio from? I’ve spent the last month editing the dreadful Serbian dub of Worthless into a full HQ instrumental version, but I think I’ll need the original surround tracks to get the “interruption” segments (as I’ve seen them called) much more cleanly - you’ve probably noticed if you’re used the soundtrack version in your 6.1, but the OST release of Worthless is pretty true to it’s name - low-bitrate compression and missing a distressingly large amount of the Interruptions backings, not to mention the panning of some of the instruments is different…

Also, I’m new to this site’s mechanics - how will we be able to bask in the glory of your hard work when it’s done? Will there be a download link or torrent etc?

Yours,

MK

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MKtheinstrumentalist said:

I had the sequels to this on VHS when I was a young 'un - “Mars” got it’s tape in a knot early on so I grew up on “Rescue”. Only saw the original last year - Glad I discovered it then, brilliant film but I would’ve been thoroughly ‘twamatised’ by it if I’d seen it when I had the others… I’m glad it’s finally getting the restoration treatment it deserves, looking superb so far! 😉

Where did you get the 5.1 audio from? I’ve spent the last month editing the dreadful Serbian dub of Worthless into a full HQ instrumental version, but I think I’ll need the original surround tracks to get the “interruption” segments (as I’ve seen them called) much more cleanly - you’ve probably noticed if you’re used the soundtrack version in your 6.1, but the OST release of Worthless is pretty true to it’s name - low-bitrate compression and missing a distressingly large amount of the Interruptions backings, not to mention the panning of some of the instruments is different…

Also, I’m new to this site’s mechanics - how will we be able to bask in the glory of your hard work when it’s done? Will there be a download link or torrent etc?

Yours,

MK

Well, the thing is, regarding download (and torrent) links, you can only send them through private messages on this website. Plus, the Serbian is actually Croatian.

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GoboFraggle1983 said:

Well, the thing is, regarding download (and torrent) links, you can only send them through private messages on this website. Plus, the Serbian is actually Croatian.

Gotcha, thanks! So, if it’s released as a downloadable… Would it be possible to release the audio as multi-track AC3’s or something, without the video? It doesn’t have to come packaged with the rest as I know that would nearly double the file size - it’s just that I ALWAYS seem to run into problems getting surround audio from video files, so if it’s just the raw multi-track soundfile it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I know it’s the Croatian dub, but I’ve seen it referred to as the “Serbian” version and nothing actually comes up when you search for the Croation version, so I thought I’d go with the most common name. ;-P

Tell you what, is there anything I could do to help? I only really have Gimp to do any still-editing with, but I do have iZotope RX if you want any additional touch-ups/noise removal on the audio. 😃

MK

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I found this forum and thread when I was googling for a high-quality version of this movie. I am eagerly anticipating this release!

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MKtheinstrumentalist said:

GoboFraggle1983 said:

Well, the thing is, regarding download (and torrent) links, you can only send them through private messages on this website. Plus, the Serbian is actually Croatian.

Gotcha, thanks! So, if it’s released as a downloadable… Would it be possible to release the audio as multi-track AC3’s or something, without the audio? It doesn’t have to come packaged with the rest as I know that would nearly double the file size - it’s just that I ALWAYS seem to run into problems getting surround audio from video files, so if it’s just the raw multi-track soundfile it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I know it’s the Croatian dub, but I’ve seen it referred to as the “Serbian” version and nothing actually comes up when you search for the Croation version, so I thought I’d go with the most common name. ;-P

Tell you what, is there anything I could do to help? I only really have Gimp to do any still-editing with, but I do have iZotope RX if you want any additional touch-ups/noise removal on the audio. 😃

MK

In all fairness, Serbian and Croatian are practically the same, just more of how either country views their tongue in a nationalistic sort of way, of course his is the product of the breakup a quarter century ago.

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^ Yeah, is the release date estimate still good? April is nearly over and I’m pretty sure a few of us are legitimately shivering in anticipation - I know I am! ;-D

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Any chance for adding a German audio track as well? Since you’re using the PAL-transfer it should line up (slowed down to 24fps, of course, and ideally matching the music pitch of the US audio).

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Any update on this? I thought this restoration was supposed to be done in April and now it’s July 😕

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GoboFraggle1983 said:

Any update on this? I thought this restoration was supposed to be done in April and now it’s July 😕

I had originally estimated it to be complete in the spring. It was at about 80-90% complete, but then I went through a seperation, was forced to move out, purchased my first home, which ended up making me seriously ill because we found out the home had massive mold problems. The home had to be abated for the mold issue and while all this was happening I developed mono, lost my job suddenly and had to find a new job, which I just started in the late spring, and the new job has really sapped my time. I plan on reconnecting the computer I use for restoration within the next couple of months. But I couldn’t even tell you when it will be done. I will update you when it I have restarted, as it nears completion and when it is complete.

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togedu said:

GoboFraggle1983 said:

Any update on this? I thought this restoration was supposed to be done in April and now it’s July 😕

I had originally estimated it to be complete in the spring. It was at about 80-90% complete, but then I went through a seperation, was forced to move out, purchased my first home, which ended up making me seriously ill because we found out the home had massive mold problems. The home had to be abated for the mold issue and while all this was happening I developed mono, lost my job suddenly and had to find a new job, which I just started in the late spring, and the new job has really sapped my time. I plan on reconnecting the computer I use for restoration within the next couple of months. But I couldn’t even tell you when it will be done. I will update you when it I have restarted, as it nears completion and when it is complete.

I am SO sorry! 😦 I really hope things work out for you.

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togedu said:

GoboFraggle1983 said:

Any update on this? I thought this restoration was supposed to be done in April and now it’s July 😕

I had originally estimated it to be complete in the spring. It was at about 80-90% complete, but then I went through a seperation, was forced to move out, purchased my first home, which ended up making me seriously ill because we found out the home had massive mold problems. The home had to be abated for the mold issue and while all this was happening I developed mono, lost my job suddenly and had to find a new job, which I just started in the late spring, and the new job has really sapped my time. I plan on reconnecting the computer I use for restoration within the next couple of months. But I couldn’t even tell you when it will be done. I will update you when it I have restarted, as it nears completion and when it is complete.

Sorry to hear about all of the troubles 😦. I hope everything continues to get better. I just wanted to let you know that I am also eagerly awaiting this release, no matter how long it takes.

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I’m still waiting on some restoration news already!

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Editroid said:

I’m still waiting on some restoration news already!

Nothing to report at this time. All files are in the same state as they were several months ago and are on my hard drive but I have not reconnected my editing suite since the move to my new place. I’ll update you all here if there is any progress in the future.

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Please know that I don’t intend to distribute the project here or anywhere when complete for legal reasons. This is only being done for my personal enjoyment.

Does that mean I’ll never get to see it? That’s selfish.

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Editroid said:

Please know that I don’t intend to distribute the project here or anywhere when complete for legal reasons. This is only being done for my personal enjoyment.

Does that mean I’ll never get to see it? That’s selfish.

That is not selfish at all, its still piracy.

Im that guy who likes megazone 23 a little too much

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darkspire17 said:

Editroid said:

Please know that I don’t intend to distribute the project here or anywhere when complete for legal reasons. This is only being done for my personal enjoyment.

Does that mean I’ll never get to see it? That’s selfish.

That is not selfish at all, its still piracy.

I still want a copy of it!

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What Mac program exists where I can convert a PAL DVD to NTSC and slow the movie down by 4%?