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The Book Of Boba Fett (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * SPOILERS * — Page 9

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canofhumdingers said:

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I don’t disagree with anything you wrote, canofhumdingers. While Morrison was never a perfect body match for OT Boba Fett, it wasn’t so obvious when he was in AOTC (as Boba was going to look like Jango). Morrison is older and that’s a reality I try to make peace with (for him? for me?) and it looks like he has gotten fitter since his Mandalorian appearance.

I have a much lower expectation for television and so I forgive a lot that you point out, like the parkour and the lack of timelessness. I notice it but accept the reality of weekly TV. Some of the acting/humor is less excusable and I have the same gripe about Mandalorian.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Boba Fett seems suddenly really tame. I don’t have a problem with post-Mando Boba being that way, but the Boba Fett that came out of the sarlacc and is captured by the tusken raiders seems very mellow. It doesn’t seem like the OT Boba Fett who had to be told not to disintegrate people. The fact that he’s smiling as the tusken kid shows off the kraken head seemed so out of place to me. I expected a tougher, more determined and ruthless Boba Fett to start with. If he had been consciously trying to escape the sarlacc for years before he succeeded, that would help explain why he might be different, but the episode shows him waking up and then almost immediately blasting his way out. The fight with the town ninjas also made Boba seem kind of pathetic. Given the kind of action we’ve gotten from the Mandalorian, you’d think a renowned bounty hunter would put up a bit more of a fight, without needing Gamorrean guards. Then again, he did blow up a guard, so maybe he was just trying to avoid causing too much trouble at first.

I agree, that felt off. Especially since Boba was particularly ruthless and fearsome in his recent appearances in Mando. I was expecting more of that persona (which jives more with the Clint Eastwood feel Boba has always exuded) than this much more timid version we saw.

I also kept wondering why he didn’t just fly out with his jet pack when they were surrounded by the electro-shield guys. Like, it was such an obvious choice it felt really dumb for him NOT to.

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canofhumdingers said:

I also kept wondering why he didn’t just fly out with his jet pack when they were surrounded by the electro-shield guys. Like, it was such an obvious choice it felt really dumb for him NOT to.

He wasn’t wearing his jetpack in the previous scene so it bugs me that the costume department put it on him for the outside scenes, when he doesn’t even use it in a necessary situation.

Perhaps he was afraid the blast would hurt Fennec but that’s a stretch.

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Boba is different. I’m not sure if emerging from the sarlacc is intentionally symbolic of a rebirth of sorts, but I’d imagine being swallowed alive by a monster but somehow surviving is enough to give anyone a new outlook on life. Plus we’re seeing that wasn’t even the end of his ordeal.

It looks like he still has some lingering physical issues and likely some form of PTSD. I think reinventing himself is a necessity at this point. We still see flashes of his brutality, but he’s trying something different now.

People often think they understand how to be the boss and manage people, but when they get into that role, they find out just how much they weren’t even aware of. ​I can’t wait to see if it all works out.

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He’s having flashbacks to seeing his father beheaded by a Jedi in the wake of having his own ass handed to him by a Jedi. I’d say he’s dealing with a lot internally.

There’s also the issue of what happens to a clone as they age. I know Boba is unaltered but does that avoid the health issues?

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The Star Wars facebook page is posting a lot of alternative posters. I didn’t want to clog up the thread with all of them, but thought I’d post this one:

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Did someone else notice that the second half of the end credits theme (From 1:48 onwards) features a melody that’s suspiciously similar to the Crimson Dawn theme from Solo?

I’ve also found out that the parkour-ninja guys kind of resemble some Crimson Dawn thugs seen in recent comics.

Could they (and maybe Qi’ra) turn out to be the main antagonists for the season?

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Knight of Kalee said:

Did someone else notice that the second half of the end credits theme (From 1:48 onwards) features a melody that’s suspiciously similar to the Crimson Dawn theme from Solo?

I’ve also found out that the parkour-ninja guys kind of resemble some Crimson Dawn thugs seen in recent comics.

Could they (and maybe Qi’ra) turn out to be the main antagonists for the season?

I’d seen a lot of people talking about the Crimson Dawn music, and yes those guys are definitely dressed in crimson. Signs definitely point to Crimson Dawn being in the series, but I’m wondering how that’ll play out, seeing as in the comic Crimson Reign #1…

(mild spoiler)

…the narrator says the story is about the “fall of Crimson Dawn”. I would have assumed based on that, they wouldn’t still be around 5 years after ROTJ.

But if the series did tie in with the comics it would be fantastic.

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Rodney-2187 said:

Boba is different. I’m not sure if emerging from the sarlacc is intentionally symbolic of a rebirth of sorts, but I’d imagine being swallowed alive by a monster but somehow surviving is enough to give anyone a new outlook on life. Plus we’re seeing that wasn’t even the end of his ordeal.

It looks like he still has some lingering physical issues and likely some form of PTSD. I think reinventing himself is a necessity at this point. We still see flashes of his brutality, but he’s trying something different now.

People often think they understand how to be the boss and manage people, but when they get into that role, they find out just how much they weren’t even aware of. ​I can’t wait to see if it all works out.

If you’re responding to me, I’m not talking about the scenes in the “present day”, I’m talking about the ones that take place immediately after getting out of the sarlacc. I would expect that to be a transformative experience, but not one that would result in immediate changes.

SilverWook said:

He’s having flashbacks to seeing his father beheaded by a Jedi in the wake of having his own ass handed to him by a Jedi. I’d say he’s dealing with a lot internally.

That’s a good observation. I still think the characterization of him doesn’t fit all that will with the OT depiction.

I realized that my perception here may be influenced by the trailer. I rewatched it and noticed that it depicts Boba very differently than the actual episode. Of course, trailers take things out of context, but the editing in the trailer results in Boba seeming far more decisive, authoritative, and strong, without implying that he’s not honourable. It’s quite misleading in that respect, which I think set me up for disappointment when Boba doesn’t come across even remotely as badass as the trailer would suggest.

I’ll have to wait and see where the rest of the series takes him.

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I have a feeling that if Han Solo makes an appearance at the end of this, that Boba Fett will help him, or do something heroic to save him and his famous ship. We might even see a little Ben Solo.

The rumors are everywhere right now, so you’ll probably know who I’m talking about.

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If he does show up I expect drastic improvements from the deep-fake department.

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idir_hh said:

If he does show up I expect a drastic improvement in the deep-fake department.

From what I heard, Lucasfilm hired the guy that does them. I can’t wait to see the finished product

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I thought it was a great start. Perhaps too much time spent on back story and not enough current, but I’ve noticed lots of series tend to be slow and heavy as they set things up these days. The Mandelorian got to it later. But I also think that setting up how Fett got out and lost his armor was a big question lingering from The Mandelorian. So now that the setup is out of the way, I hope it gets into the trouble he is getting himself into.

Also, Fett never seemed the kind of guy who was out to cause fear. He was out to get his quarry and if sometimes they got disintegrated, he still got them. Not someone you want to be after you, but also just one bounty hunter. So someone who wants to get him out of the way would send a group.

I was very happy with the episode and enjoyed it. I hope the story evolves and gets better. This was a great setup but I don’t think it quite followed the quality of story from The Mandelorian, but it had a few things to answer as we get to know this iconic character better.

As for Morrison, Jeremy Bulloch was the tallest of the actors to done the costume for the OT. The others were similar in build to Morrison and now Danial Logan. Neither are actually the right age for Fett in this time period, but Morrison with the scarring feels right in the role. I’ve also noticed how similar his voice is to Wingreen’s in the original TESB audio.

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Just finished the 2nd episode, and man, Favreau really gets the SW vibe. This was a really great episode. Only nitpick I have is that I’m so much more invested in the Tusken flashback subplot than the “present” day crime lord one, though its clear from this episode that they’re building up to something big.

A few random thoughts and observations:

Although I was never a fan of the Doctor Aphra comics (I read the first few volumes and found them just OK) it was really cool to see Black Krrsantan. It’s such a great design and he looks really fearsome in live action. I did really enjoy the one-shot comic where Obi Wan fights him, so it’ll be interesting to see what they do with him. Hopefully, and likely, to be more than just a cameo.

I did not expect to see the Pykes unmasked. From what I gathered skimming through Wookieepedia this is the first time we’ve seen their faces, though it is pretty close to some concept art.

The western movie vibe was strong in this one with the whole train sequence, and I especially liked the train conductor droid. I’m so glad to see that Favreau is embracing the absurd and metaphorical logic of SW. The interior of the “locomotive” section with all the tubes and the blue-burning engine is perfect SW weirdness that is just similar enough to our past to be recognizable, but just ‘futuristic’ enough to have that veneer of sci-fi to it. I also got some strong Lawrence of Arabia vibes from this sequence, and the end credits concept art pretty much confirmed that that was intentional.

I did not expect the Tusken peyote trip. Nice to see some Force-vision type thing away from the Jedi, the Sith, etc. We’ll have plenty to theorize about for a while with that scene.

The Camie and Fixer cameo turned out exactly as I expected. It’s a fun little easter egg for SW fans, but to 99% of the audience they were just two civilians that needed to be saved from a swoop gang.

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I’ve seen a few complaints about the flashback scenes, but to me they essential are the story, and they inform so much about the character in the present. Boba is learning a lot about himself and his place in the galaxy. I love the self reflecting. I also enjoy learning more about the Tusken culture, at least of this one tribe. These little pockets of information are why I love that we’re getting these series. We’d never get this from a main saga movie.

ZkinandBonez said:

Although I was never a fan of the Doctor Aphra comics (I read the first few volumes and found them just OK) it was really cool to see Black Krrsantan. It’s such a great design and he looks really fearsome in live action. I did really enjoy the one-shot comic where Obi Wan fights him, so it’ll be interesting to see what they do with him. Hopefully, and likely, to be more than just a cameo.

Is that confirmed? I thought it was him. I really hope it is. I think the Doctor Aphra comics are some of the best. I’m surprised she isn’t one of the first to get her own live action or at least animated series.

ZkinandBonez said:

I also got some strong Lawrence of Arabia vibes from this sequence, and the end credits concept art pretty much confirmed that that was intentional.

I got that too. Very nice.

ZkinandBonez said:

I did not expect the Tusken peyote trip. Nice to see some Force-vision type thing away from the Jedi, the Sith, etc. We’ll have plenty to theorize about for a while with that scene.

I think both of the first two episodes have a lot deeper symbolism than I’ve been able to pick up on the first time through. To me that’s the sign of great writing when I can rewatch something and get more out of it. I also love the communal experience that comes from listening to what other fans picked up on that i didn’t.

I compared escaping from the sarlacc to a rebirth of sorts. This vision seems like a continuation of that. He’s more than just a guy wearing his father’s armor and a fearsome bounty hunter. He wants more.

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The Camie and Fixer cameo turned out exactly as I expected. It’s a fun little easter egg for SW fans, but to 99% of the audience they were just two civilians that needed to be saved from a swoop gang.

Same. I wonder if the original actors are still around. Can you imagine being cut from the first Star Wars movie. I think it would be nice if they at least got cameos somewhere in Star Wars, even of they’re just sitting at a bar or something.

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Rodney-2187 said:

I wonder if the original actors are still around. Can you imagine being cut from the first Star Wars movie. I think it would be nice if they at least got cameos somewhere in Star Wars, even of they’re just sitting at a bar or something.

Koo Stark and Anthony Forrest are indeed both still around

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Rodney-2187 said:

I’ve seen a few complaints about the flashback scenes, but to me they essential are the story, and they inform so much about the character in the present. Boba is learning a lot about himself and his place in the galaxy. I love the self reflecting. I also enjoy learning more about the Tusken culture, at least of this one tribe. These little pockets of information are why I love that we’re getting these series. We’d never get this from a main saga movie.

Agreed, but now that we’ve seen the mayor, “The Twins”, etc. it wouldn’t surprise me if these two arcs wold combine in some grand way. Already you get the sense that Fett is becoming an important figure in the tribe, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the show ends with him calling on his Tusken allies to help him defeat his rivals and give both himself and the tribes more power on Tatooine. That’s my theory, anyway.

Fett’s already experienced some kind of spiritual connection to Tatooine, so I’m guessing that his ambitions in the “present” have more to them than him just wanting to be a crime lord as many have suspected. It seems clear now that the two arcs will cross over in some meaningful way and I suspect this show will be more than just a casual little Boba Fett spin-off mini-series, but that it will have major consequences for the future of Tatooine.

ZkinandBonez said:

Although I was never a fan of the Doctor Aphra comics (I read the first few volumes and found them just OK) it was really cool to see Black Krrsantan. It’s such a great design and he looks really fearsome in live action. I did really enjoy the one-shot comic where Obi Wan fights him, so it’ll be interesting to see what they do with him. Hopefully, and likely, to be more than just a cameo.

I’s that confirmed? I thought it was him. I really hope it is. I think the Doctor Aphra comics are some of the best. I’m surprised she isn’t one of the first to get her own live action or at least animated series.

Officially? No, not yet. But he looks more-or-less exactly the same and he’s a popular character so I don’ see why they’d make a look-alike character.

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Boba Fett’s ultimate goal is to rid Tatooine of all crime lords and corruption. He will rule over the Dune Sea and protect the Tusken Raiders at all cost. They are his adoptive family and he’ll do anything to protect them.

Loved the episode and all the surprises, glad they keep everything secret. I couldn’t believe when the

Hutts arrived.

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Interesting detail that when the train first arrives they added a sound effect that sounded a bit like a Krayt Dragon.
I wonder if this meant that the Pikes made the sound to scare them off (even though the Tuskens knew it was a train–or rather “long speeder”), or if it was meant to trick the viewers that another dragon was going to appear.

Also, did anyone else get a bit of a Buffalo Bill and the railroads of the old west killing buffaloes vibe from this scene? In really liking how this series is carrying on the Western vibes that Lucas planted in ANH with this series.


As for Fett’s vision. I quite like StarWarsExlained’s analysis that the tree represents Fett’s family tree and how is rebirth from the Sarlacc (as Rodney’s also pointed out) deals with him trying to find his own identity as he seems to be strangled and held back by his own “roots” as it were. He is after all just a clone of his “father” and was pretty much raised to be a bounty hunter. We’re seeing Fett becoming his own man, which ties in nicely with similar themes in The Mandalorian where Din is learning that there are more than just “the way”.

But adding to this, I do wonder if the tree might have a double meaning. Most seem to assume that the sea is the sea of Kamino, but the Tusken tribe leader mentions when Tatooine once had a sea, so I’m wondering if this ties in to the origin of the land. Besides, Fett does end up with a gaffi-stick branch at the end, so this is presumably something all Tusken’s go through, so the tree has to have some kind of tie to Tatooine’s past as well.

The red glowing eyes are a whole other mater though. The end credits concept art shows a bunch of Jawas, and we have seen a red-eyed variation, though none so far on Tatooine. I know that the Jawas were, like the Tusken, native to Tatooine in Legends, but I don’t know if they’ve established this in canon yet. Ep. 2 of The Mandalorian seems to hint that they might not be, but it could also be that they’ve just adjusted t technology better than the Tuskens have. I think it’s still canon that the Jawas did not build the sandcrawlers.

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I’m much happier with the latest episode. It seems they’re leaving any real resolution until later in the season and what we’re getting now is just build-up. The episodes feel less self-contained than in Mando, which I think is the reason the open-ended ending of the first episode felt jarring to me. I’m really enjoying the insight into the sandpeople’s way of life.

ZkinandBonez said:

Just finished the 2nd episode, and man, Favreau really gets the SW vibe. This was a really great episode.

The western movie vibe was strong in this one with the whole train sequence, and I especially liked the train conductor droid. I’m so glad to see that Favreau is embracing the absurd and metaphorical logic of SW. The interior of the “locomotive” section with all the tubes and the blue-burning engine is perfect SW weirdness that is just similar enough to our past to be recognizable, but just ‘futuristic’ enough to have that veneer of sci-fi to it. I also got some strong Lawrence of Arabia vibes from this sequence, and the end credits concept art pretty much confirmed that that was intentional.

I did not expect the Tusken peyote trip. Nice to see some Force-vision type thing away from the Jedi, the Sith, etc. We’ll have plenty to theorize about for a while with that scene.

I very much agree with all this. This feels exactly like Star Wars should, but it’s not just recycling stuff we’ve already seen. This kind of stuff gets me excited for more.

The Camie and Fixer cameo turned out exactly as I expected. It’s a fun little easter egg for SW fans, but to 99% of the audience they were just two civilians that needed to be saved from a swoop gang.

Agreed. I think they handled it really well. And we got to see Boba kick some ass instead of getting beat up, so that satisfied some of my disappointment with the first episode.

The fact that the assassins sent after Boba in chapter 1 are supposed to be the best of the best also makes me feel a bit better about Boba not being able to take them on. Still doesn’t explain why he didn’t use his jetpack though…

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ZkinandBonez said:

Also, did anyone else get a bit of a Buffalo Bill and the railroads of the old west killing buffaloes vibe from this scene? In really liking how this series is carrying on the Western vibes that Lucas planted in ANH with this series.

Very much so. It fits really well with Star Wars and what we already know about the sandpeople. I get strong Native American vibes from them and I like that we get to see them humanized a bit more relative to their previous appearances.

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Anyone notice the Ralph McQuarrie art in live action. The scene where he’s carving his stick, the background is from this painting

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I just noticed that Mayor Mok Shaiz was voiced by Robert Rodriguez. He also voiced Dokk Strassi in ep. 1 so I wonder if this is going to be a recurring thing where he keeps showing up in every episode to some capacity.

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