The Big ESB Reveal — Page 5

lol

I like skyjedi, he is one of my favorite characters on the boards.

But imagine the shock if we discovered he was secretly a Dark George Of The Lucas.

Don't worry he will throw them in the bin when they start to give off static electricity.

Bingowings said:

I like skyjedi, he is one of my favorite characters on the boards.

I like sky when he posts relevant material about Star Wars.  And it's clear he's got a lot of knowledge about it, I've seen some very informative posts from him.

Unfortunately it mostly gets lost in his rage.

Flip the disc over the derailment is mostly on side 5.

And get back on topic you goons!

To be fair Fink, I can't see how you can honestly complain about Sky with a straight face when I've hardly seen a post of yours that wasn't off-topic, sarcastic, or filled with GIFs. Everyone has their habits and eccentricities.

xhonzi said:

Would you all mind moving the "Frink VS Sky" content to another thread?

That would be swell.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/My-thoughts-on-the-State-of-O-T-dot-com/post/437398/#TopicPost437398

Oh, and your mom is swell.

Further, I did make an on-topic post in this thread, which was the old 4-5-1-2-3-6 idea.  It's not my fault sky did his sky thing.  Sure, it's my fault I bitched about it, but I plead guilty by reason of sky-induced insanity.

I meant what I said earlier about sky's good posts.  They're good.  I just wish he'd try for more of those.

And out of some 15,000 posts, I've made at least 150 on-topic ones.  1% is a pretty good rate, no? ;-)

Back on-topic, I barely remember the first time I watched ESB.  I'm pretty sure it was on VHS in the mid-80's, and I can't really remember if I knew about the reveal or not at that point.  It would have been hard to avoid it, I just can't remember specifically.

And I love the reveal.  I think any edit efforts should be sure to preserve it.

It better be on-topic or I was wrong about that 1% thing ;-)

xhonzi said:

timdiggerm said:

I do like the idea of the 451236 order, as a sort of... well, it's the best we can do.

As for plans like Bingo's & Ady's... I'll believe it when I see it. So please, I'd love to see it!

:(

Did no one read my missive?  Or was it simply not on-topic since it wasn't about fan edits of the existing footage?

I read it.  And I, as always, enjoyed your style, you.  But you forgot to end it with "And the Death Star blows up."  Disappointing.

I wonder about #2 and the 'sonogram' issue.  If the wonder twins are taken away from it all for their protection, wouldn't that muddle the issue for Anakin?  I think Ben's words to Luke on Degobah should be followed.  If Vader had any offspring, they would be a threat to the Emperor.  So notPadme goes into hiding (Degobah would work for this) and has the birth.  Luke is returned and his existence is leaked to the growing rebellion (or anyone, I don't know if it matters to who) and Anakin finds about it.  Maybe this is what finally pushes Anakin to the Dark Side.  His bride (or lover) and his friends have taken his son from him.  Talk about a betrayal!  

Why would Luke need to be known to Anakin/Vader?  To hide Leia.  With Vader's attention on finding his son, his sister remains safely anonymous.  Luke is the Son of Suns (or the Son of the Son of Suns) and Leia stays in the shadows.  Obi-wan knows he can watch Luke from a small distance to take care of him.  Leia is really kept out of the way until her own call to adventure.

*side note* Maybe there could be a second Jedi purge talking place during the main one.  This second one would be a hunt to destroy the son of Skywalker.  Maybe it could echo the infant Moses and infant Jesus stories from the Bible, where Pharaoh and Herod massacred babies to stop the children of prophesy.  
Yeah, it's dark, but we need Vader to be hated and feared.  As he is in Episode 3, we don't pity him at all as he burns on the side of that volcano. 

Actual double post.

Anchorhead said:

If I had to venture an opinion, I'd say viewing order doesn't really matter as long as the films are viewed in two sets of three.  Preferably with some time to ponder between the two, maybe a week or two. 

The trilogies look and feel completely different. They were created differently (live action vs CGI, film vs digital), have completely different visual styles, different story lines, different actors, take place in different time periods, etc.

For various reasons, I'd hope for any new viewers to start with episodes 4, 5, and 6 to begin with, if seperating out each trilogy into two distinct entities.  The main one being because I'd rather someone first watched what I reckon would give them a far more satisfying introduction to the STAR WARS franchise, considering I feel the prequel trilogy is inferior.  And that's how I ensured my own brats saw 'em for the first time too. :)

But sadly, I doubt this will happen with the majority of anyone new to the saga in the future, since the actual 'numbering' of each movie will discourage that...and because the forthcoming 3D theatrical re-release schedule is only going to reinforce the 1-2-3-4-5-6 'chapter' issue too.

As you say, the trilogies look and feel completely different in many ways, and therefore don't sit very well as a continuous whole.  Personally, I don't mind that too much, considering they ended up being made so far apart with different designers and sensibilities at the time....and if the prequel trilogy had turned out more successfully in the first place, I wouldn't have a problem with this 'revised' viewing order whatsoever.  But they didn't...(although you've missed out on some great soundtrack music by Williams at the very least Anchorhead)...and that's why I dislike the idea of the prequels taking 'precedence' to 'officially' begin the overall saga now, where the 'numbers' are concerned.

So looking on this franchise as two distinct trilogies, I'd always prefer the original 4-5-6-1-2-3 'theatrical' release order for new viewers, ideally...and therefore the currently 'numbered' 1-2-3-4-5-6 sequence doesn't appeal to me for a 'whole saga' marathon viewing order for newbies.  Or myself either, where the prequels are concerned.  However, for the reasons I mentioned on the previous page, cap's proposed 4-5-1-2-3-6 viewing order at least incorporates the prequels in a way that I can dislike less.