Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Furthermore, it would be impossible to hide the reveal... when Ben talks about Anakin being a good friend that he was tutoring, who ELSE could he be talking about? He also says that Vader helped the empire destroy the Jedi. In ep.3 we watch Anakin do all those things, and then become Vader. You'd have to ditch pretty much all of ep.3. Hmm, not a bad idea, now that I think of it.
You have indeed stated my concerns with Ady's Revisited plans. Leaving out the "Rise...NOOOOOooooooo" scene is easy enough, but it's all that other Vader-stuff that Ani does that really... well, I don't see how it's doable.
Always with you it cannot be done... ;)
I love how it's being said that keeping the surprise can't be pulled off for my EP3:Revisited edit, yet no one knows my plans for this edit. I have planned this out and i do have a way that Vader can be seen to be a separate person to Anakin and still have Anakin's fall to the dark side intact. Am i going to explain, well no. I will be keeping this to myself until i get to Ep3. You have to remember that the Revisited saga is no longer just an ordinary fan edit that takes existing footage and rearranges it to create a new edit. I will be filming new elements to create new shots that will be needed to pull this off.
Ben's speech to Luke doesn't really change anything either, but i have a way to have the "pupil" exist but not named. Plus , when ben explains to Luke in ROTJ about the "certain point of view" this actually works. Just look at bens reaction in his hut on Tatooine in EP4 when Luke asks about his father. Without even knowing it was supposed to be a lie at the time , Alec gave an uncomfortable look in the pause before his speech. So this actually helped to sell the lie.
The ESB reveal, thanks to the terrible writing of the prequels, turned from a "oh my god, is he lying/ that can't be true?" moment to a "well, duh" moment. You can't expect people that are new to the saga to watch them in the 4,5,6,1,2,3 order. When you see a set of movies that are numbered in order then you will watch them in numerical order. The only other way around it would be to renumber the OT 1,2 & 3 and have the prequels numbered after them, but the episode numbers have become so synonymous with each film as they stand now, i doubt changing the episode numbers would sit comfortably with people.
The ESB reveal needs to be kept as a surprise.