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The Acolyte (live action series set in The High Republic era) - a general discussion thread — Page 2

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Amandla Stenberg goes by both ‘she’ and ‘they’, is lesbian, and is an outspoken feminist

I’m very glad to learn a little bit more about the series as it’s one of the upcoming projects I’m most intrigued by

Me too, but did we really learn anything here besides the lead actress?

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Amandla Stenberg goes by both ‘she’ and ‘they’, is lesbian, and is an outspoken feminist

You’re a fascist. (Did I hit you hard enough?)

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Amandla Stenberg goes by both ‘she’ and ‘they’, is lesbian, and is an outspoken feminist

I’m very glad to learn a little bit more about the series as it’s one of the upcoming projects I’m most intrigued by

Me too, but did we really learn anything here besides the lead actress?

I just hope it isn’t too indicative of the series itself. I like my Star Wars to be an escape from reality, not a reminder of hot-button issues. Then again, Star Wars has always featured some call-back to real-world issues and politics. Just not usually contemporary ones.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Amandla Stenberg goes by both ‘she’ and ‘they’, is lesbian, and is an outspoken feminist

I’m very glad to learn a little bit more about the series as it’s one of the upcoming projects I’m most intrigued by

Me too, but did we really learn anything here besides the lead actress?

I like my Star Wars to be an escape from reality, not a reminder of hot-button issues.

To me this implies you also want Star Wars to be an escape from LGBT people, which is a bit of a strange stance to take.

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No, I just don’t want the show to become an exploration of LGBT problems that are front and centre in our own universe at the moment and, whether you like it or not, are quite divisive. I’d rather it be focused on the High Republic as such. There are other types of shows that can do more justice to LGBT issues. I also don’t want Star Wars to explore climate change, or pandemics, or abortion, or immigration, or populist politics, or the issues of capitalism and socialism. These things can be in the background, but I don’t want Star Wars to be about them, so long as they remain controversial/hot topics. I want to be immersed in another universe when I watch Star Wars, not constantly brought back to real-world issues, regardless of the actual stance the show takes.

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An actor’s personal life is neither issue nor politics, and their casting isn’t representative of a production’s value or sentiment.

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I can’t wait for release dates and trailers to start rolling out. This is going to be a great year for Star Wars fans (Acolyte is 2023).

I’m up for whoever they hire. I look forward to getting the next Star Wars story and don’t mind new perspectives. The future of Star Wars looks bright to me.

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Chase Adams said:

An actor’s personal life is neither issue nor politics, and their casting isn’t representative of a production’s value or sentiment.

That’s very true. I was a bit hasty thinking it might affect the plot of the show.

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Z6PO said:

You’re a fascist. (Did I hit you hard enough?)

Anyway, I don’t see this becoming an issue in the show itself. As much as I hate woke culture, I have yet to see any Star War content embrace it. Any problems with the series’s recent output have nothing to do with some “political agenda”. It’s mass media for general audiences, so it’s kept as apolitical as possible. At most you get the hilariously pitiful passive progressive bits like the infamous lesbian kiss in TRoS. I’m all for gay representation but that was just insulting. I guess you could argue there’s merit in treating it with subtlety in the long run to destigmatize it, but it didn’t come off that way.

I can’t wait for release dates and trailers to start rolling out. This is going to be a great year for Star Wars fans (Acolyte is 2023).

I can’t help but think back to that video someone linked in the Rangers of the New Republic thread about how every announced project is a Schrodinger’s Cat until they start filming. Then again, I suppose casting is a good sign.

And you say this is going to be a great year then specify that The Acolyte is next year? I’m a little confused here.

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Temura Morison’s Maori background has influenced The Book of Boba Fett, and I think it’s all the better for it. I believe one of the reasons for hiring diverse people is to get a diverse input. It doesn’t have to be political unless someone makes it political, but I suppose someone inevitably will. Just as there were lots of comments about the High Republic from people who obviously hadn’t read the books and had no idea what they were talking about, so too will it likely be with this. I’ll just glide right over the top of all that and just watch the show for myself.

I remember this show being described as a mystery-thriller. I love the sound of that.

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I don’t have anything wrong with hiring diverse people, it’s woke people I don’t like, and there’s a big difference. Even then, it’s only a dealbreaker if it actually seeps into the content itself, which like I said is unlikely.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

I can’t help but think back to that video someone linked in the Rangers of the New Republic thread about how every announced project is a Schrodinger’s Cat until they start filming. Then again, I suppose casting is a good sign.

And you say this is going to be a great year then specify that The Acolyte is next year? I’m a little confused here.

We’re already currently getting The Book of Boba Fett. I believe Obi-Wan and Andor are complete (maybe just a little post production still left). We should also get a second season of The Bad Batch and maybe season 3 of The Mandalorian at the end of 2022. Not to mention Star Wars Celebration, more High Republic books and comics, and hopefully LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga. That sounds like a great 2022 to me, and I’m hoping we get firm release dates for all of the above soon, but I clarified that Acolyte is for 2023 since we are in the thread for that show. I’m sure we’ll continue to get news on it as they start production, just as we did with Obi-Wan and Andor.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

I don’t have anything wrong with hiring diverse people, it’s woke people I don’t like, and there’s a very big difference. Even then, it’s only a dealbreaker if it actually seeps into the content itself, which like I said is unlikely.

Apologies in advance for veering off-topic, but what does woke mean?

Over the past three years I’ve heard the word bandied about, but I don’t know what it means.

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fmalover said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

I don’t have anything wrong with hiring diverse people, it’s woke people I don’t like, and there’s a very big difference. Even then, it’s only a dealbreaker if it actually seeps into the content itself, which like I said is unlikely.

Apologies in advance for veering off-topic, but what does woke mean?

Over the past three years I’ve heard the word bandied about, but I don’t know what it means.

It depends who’s using it. Those who self-describe as woke mean it in the sense of being aware and vigilant about social justice issues (by which is usually meant racism, feminism, LGBTQ issues, etc.). Those who use it as a derogatory term or who see it negatively usually have in mind a particular sort of left-wing intolerance for anything that deviates from being strongly affirmative of LGBTQ rights (including things like pronoun usage), affirmative action, white privilege, equality of outcome for women, (democratic) socialism, etc. Most of academia at present could be described as woke (at least in my experience of Canadian universities).

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I second that remark on Canadian Universities.

Is there a political thread we can take this conversation to to avoid further derailing talk of The Acolyte?

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Not anymore, unfortunately. But yes, we’re getting off track.

I am very much looking forward to this show…probably more than I am to any of the other ones, except maybe the third season of ‘‘The Mandalorian’’. I haven’t gotten into the High Republic books and comics, but I am eager to explore a new era of the Star Wars universe on screen.

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I hope there are some references to the High Republic novels. Not that you would have to read the books to watch the show, just a few easter eggs.

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I imagine there would be. I’m sure they want to keep the interest of the people who’ve been reading the books, not just the broader public.

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The High Republic is 100% what intrigues me about this. We haven’t even gotten any live-action Clone Wars (The Mandalorian flashback aside), let alone this mysterious High Republic era that distantly precedes it. What are they even gonna do for villains? The Nihl like in the novels? Can’t have the Sith since they’ve been gone for a millenium.

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Has there been any official statement about the exact year in the canon that this show will take place? It just occurred to me that since Yoda is in the High Republic books, and will appear in the Eclipse game, he might also make an appearance in this as well. Frank Oz is still alive and well, and he’s already returned as both voice actor and puppeteer in TLJ (and of course there’s Grogu as well), so maybe we’ll get to see a younger Yoda in live action?

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Anakin Starkiller said:

I second that remark on Canadian Universities.

Is there a political thread we can take this conversation to to avoid further derailing talk of The Acolyte?

You know politics is banned on here, oojason reminded you and everyone else on here last week.

Maybe the comments section of the racist video you posted, and were banned for, is more suited for your problems with people who are different to you.

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Johann-500 said:

Maybe the comments section of the racist video you posted, and were banned for, is more suited for your problems with people who are different to you.

Wait, what? When did that happen? I don’t remember it.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

What are they even gonna do for villains? The Nihl like in the novels? Can’t have the Sith since they’ve been gone for a millenium.

I actually wonder if it will be Sith-related as The Acolyte I believe could only be like 50 years before The Phantom Menace. Maybe following somebody part of a cult worshipping the Sith, who eventually gets to meet Darth Plagueis. I don’t know but I agree that the mystery surrounding this series makes me really excited for it.

I doubt it will be the Nihil - the way I can see it happening, is that the Nihil story is wrapped up by the books and comics and The Acolyte is a separate story. Would be great if they connected in some way though.

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Johann-500 said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

I second that remark on Canadian Universities.

Is there a political thread we can take this conversation to to avoid further derailing talk of The Acolyte?

You know politics is banned on here, oojason reminded you and everyone else on here last week.

Maybe the comments section of the racist video you posted, and were banned for, is more suited for your problems with people who are different to you.

I don’t venture into the cantina and such very often. Are politics banned here now? I wouldn’t know. If so, will a mod be cleaning this thread up then?

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ZkinandBonez said:

Has there been any official statement about the exact year in the canon that this show will take place? It just occurred to me that since Yoda is in the High Republic books, and will appear in the Eclipse game, he might also make an appearance in this as well. Frank Oz is still alive and well, and he’s already returned as both voice actor and puppeteer in TLJ (and of course there’s Grogu as well), so maybe we’ll get to see a younger Yoda in live action?

I think it’s said to be near the end of the High Republic era, so not long before The Phantom Menace I would guess. The term “acolyte” combined with the slashed logo gives me Sith vibes. I know it’s said in TPM that the Sith have been gone for a millennium, but we all know they weren’t truly gone. They say “keep yout friends close, and your enemies closer.” Maybe they were closer all along than anyone expected. Can’t wait to find out more.