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one thing u could change its that make the sith in the cave be the last scene of this edit

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Very bizarre that they reveal Osha and Mae are the same person, and yet they chose two very distinctly different child actors for the flashbacks.

I think I’d be most interested in an edit of this show which completely removes both flashback episodes, but still includes episode 8 - which it doesn’t look like you’re doing here. I think letting the audience decide what happened that night completely on their own is much more satisfying than whatever the hell all that was. As it stands, Torbin doesn’t have sufficient motivations to end himself, the leader of the coven is to blame for her own death by not explaining her decision upfront, and Sol doesn’t explain himself to Osha for some reason. It’s just so much easier to remove all of this problematic writing and let the audience come up with their own explanations.

One other cool change I’d like to see someone make is shifting the Plagueis cameo to the very end of the edit, so that he is watching Osha and his apprentice instead of just watching their ship take off earlier. I think it would be pretty easy to digitally paint out the ship leaving in that shot. And then completely remove the Yoda cameo, since no matter what she says to him, Yoda either becomes an idiot or complicit in all this.

EDIT: The guy above me beat me to it, lol.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Very bizarre that they reveal Osha and Mae are the same person, and yet they chose two very distinctly different child actors for the flashbacks.

I think I’d be most interested in an edit of this show which completely removes both flashback episodes, but still includes episode 8 - which it doesn’t look like you’re doing here. I think letting the audience decide what happened that night completely on their own is much more satisfying than whatever the hell all that was. As it stands, Torbin doesn’t have sufficient motivations to end himself, the leader of the coven is to blame for her own death by not explaining her decision upfront, and Sol doesn’t explain himself to Osha for some reason. It’s just so much easier to remove all of this problematic writing and let the audience come up with their own explanations.

One other cool change I’d like to see someone make is shifting the Plagueis cameo to the very end of the edit, so that he is watching Osha and his apprentice instead of just watching their ship take off earlier. I think it would be pretty easy to digitally paint out the ship leaving in that shot. And then completely remove the Yoda cameo, since no matter what she says to him, Yoda either becomes an idiot or complicit in all this.

EDIT: The guy above me beat me to it, lol.

I agree. Either remove the flash back episodes completely or sprinkle in relevant parts of the flashbacks from the prospectives of Mae and OSHA respectively. At least you could put the excessive wake up shots to use !

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Ultimately, the show should have taken the approach that Plagueis/Qimir were behind flaming the conflict between the Jedi and the witches. And Plagueis taught the coven leader how to create a powerful Force being, but she messed it up and the chosen one split into two. They wanted the conflict to happen so that they could take the children and give the Jedi a bad rep. Killing two birds with one stone.

I’m hoping that by completely removing the flashbacks, or perhaps by sprinkling in a couple of brief visions of their mother(s) as idir_hh pointed out (such as when they are arguing about how the Jedi could discover how they made them), that this becomes the most obvious explanation. Especially after the Sith cameo at the end.

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Thanks for the feedback and Ideas. This edit is actually finished apart from the Sith eye VFX. I’ll be leaving the finale and Ep. 3, 7 for part 2.

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Skybatman said:

one thing u could change its that make the sith in the cave be the last scene of this edit

The final scene in Part 1 is Osha putting on the helmet and having the breathing fade to black. Part 2 will pick up from where this scene left off, and then go into the flashback episodes when Osha grabs Sol.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Very bizarre that they reveal Osha and Mae are the same person, and yet they chose two very distinctly different child actors for the flashbacks.

I think I’d be most interested in an edit of this show which completely removes both flashback episodes, but still includes episode 8 - which it doesn’t look like you’re doing here. I think letting the audience decide what happened that night completely on their own is much more satisfying than whatever the hell all that was. As it stands, Torbin doesn’t have sufficient motivations to end himself, the leader of the coven is to blame for her own death by not explaining her decision upfront, and Sol doesn’t explain himself to Osha for some reason. It’s just so much easier to remove all of this problematic writing and let the audience come up with their own explanations.

One other cool change I’d like to see someone make is shifting the Plagueis cameo to the very end of the edit, so that he is watching Osha and his apprentice instead of just watching their ship take off earlier. I think it would be pretty easy to digitally paint out the ship leaving in that shot. And then completely remove the Yoda cameo, since no matter what she says to him, Yoda either becomes an idiot or complicit in all this.

EDIT: The guy above me beat me to it, lol.

I had exactly the same thought and goals but people kept asking me to include the flashbacks, which is why I’m now making this a 2 parter.

I was hoping to have Osha and Mae appear more like fight club style but the fact they were in two places at the same time and other people see them in the same place ruined that option for me. I’m not sure there is any way around editing that. My brains been fried getting it to a film length and watchable on rewatch.

I’ll have to rewatch it to see how things pan out for part 2. Right now I’m trying to rush out part 1 so people can enjoy the actual murder mystery part as a whole.

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idir_hh said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

EDIT: The guy above me beat me to it, lol.

I agree. Either remove the flash back episodes completely or sprinkle in relevant parts of the flashbacks from the prospectives of Mae and OSHA respectively. At least you could put the excessive wake up shots to use !

I deliberately didn’t include the flashbacks in part 1, mostly because they are pointless to this edits storyline and the story is wrapped up in the first film edit. Having this as a 2 parter now gives the audience a choice to watch part 2 or leave it on a cliffhanger, if we even get a season 2. If Velma got a season 2, I’m sure this one will eventually.

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That end was something and not in a good way in my opinion. The writing and acting for the most part teetered from subpar to just plain bad. I will try to be as spoiler free as possible, but the resolution as to who they sold to the public of the ultimate killer of Torbin, Indara and Kelnaca made absolutely zero sense. The “killer” was seen by countless people on in the Jedi temple at the same time of Indara’s death, not to mention the bar patrons that saw the attack and Mae was touted as the true killer with Osha arrested for her crime.

Also, I guess Vernestra has complete autonomy to do whatever she wants free of any interference whatsoever by the Jedi Council. The “twins” must truly be one person with multi personalities as that is the only explanation in my opinion for their constant 180 turnarounds in motives and values from one episode to the next. I will truly be impressed if you can salvage this series. The Sith cameo and some of the lightsaber fights were cool, but it was all spectacle and little substance that made little to no sense in regards to what we know from the larger canon predating it (in terms of release; not timeline).

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I wonder if it would be possible to change the main focus from the twins to Sol. Start the film with Sols perspective of the events on Brendock and have the twins mainly as the secondary plot…

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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So this is going to be two movies?

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Patali said:

So this is going to be two movies?

Technically, for the most part it’s one film but then people have asked me to edit the flashbacks into another, and this finale kinda helps marry those two episodes together. I think the second part will only be around 1:15h tops so I wouldn’t count it as a movie.

Part 1 is solid and is finished. Loads of conversations going on about part 2 in MR Discord so we’ll see what direction that goes after I release part 1 in a few days.

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Sounds like you are removing some of the good bits tbh

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idir_hh said:

I wonder if it would be possible to change the main focus from the twins to Sol. Start the film with Sols perspective of the events on Brendock and have the twins mainly as the secondary plot…

Honestly at this point, shifting the focus to Sol and “The Stranger” I feel is one of the only ways to salvage this series. However, I look forward to seeing what MR has cooking!

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Anjohan said:

I hoped someone would do this to see if this show is salvageable, so here is a copy-paste from my review thread, a wish-you-well and some ideas I think would greatly improve your film;

Copy-Paste review:

"Just watched a 20-minute recap of season 1 with scenes to accompany it, and my few cents are the same as my thoughts before the series’ premiere;

the acting (oh my god, the acting), the dialogue and at times the location designs are what is really ruining current Star Wars and this series. Dialogue and acting has to be a dance between the two professions, but here it comes across as your drunk uncle dancing with your cat at your sister’s wedding. It’s just not good, but it is hilarious.

And for the budget this thing had, with most of the location designs they create and use… and costumes… I’m… speechless… It’s literally Disney Channel from 2012 sometimes. Like, I’ve seen clips that make me think “that could’ve been from Hannah Montana”.

I will also say, from the 20 minutes I’ve watched, I did like 60% of the Sith executing the Jedi sequence. They have held some of the fighting on this show to a high standard. But when many of the actors can’t pull of a believable face of dread or sorrow in a scene of pure chaos and horror… then it becomes a comedy, doesn’t it.

Closing Note:
They wanted to make a drama mystery series for all the ages, but instead they created the Tommy Wiseau of Star Wars."

My ideas and thoughts

So yeah… that’s how I feel I, and how it seems like many others interpret this… this… thing.

Now, that’s not to say that this amazing community of editors can’t remove a lot of what makes this show into a meme, and craft it into something worthy of two and more eyes and the attention span and love of a Star Wars fan.

I hope and think that with removing horrible facial expressions, dialogue that does not belong or is delivered badly, and structure the series to an actual mystery - I think you could hit a jackpot in terms of being “the faneditor that made something horrible watchable”. Say what you will about Star Wars - only this has been truly horrible. The Rise of The Sith, The Last Jedi and Boba Fett were issued and badly executed, but they weren’t horrible.

I wish you good luck, and I will be one of the first to watch this in a film format from you - if you have the courage, time and patience to do so. We will not fault you if you choose to give up.

Sorry, I missed to reply to your message as it got lost.

Indeed you are correct! This show was full of bad acting and terrible dialogue but thankfully the sound edit left the centre channel pretty clean so we could get around almost off of it.

100% not going up as it’s been finished for around a week. We’re just tweaking a few VFX shots and I went a little crazy at 5am this morning and I’m now making 2 different versions from this one series. First one if for myself, running in around 2:30h without flashbacks, second will be the two parter many people have asked me to create.

I’m just waiting on the collab work to come in and this will be released asap…

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Very much looking forward to this release. Thanks for all the hard work. I like there will be two edits to choose from as well. Will the standalone episode without the flashbacks have the final episode included? Have a nice weekend and may the force be with you!

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I can’t wait to see the first version you mentioned (even though you say it’s for yourself). I’m not entirely sure why so many people are insistent on the inclusion of the flashbacks.

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Darth Sadifous said:

Very much looking forward to this release. Thanks for all the hard work. I like there will be two edits to choose from as well. Will the standalone episode without the flashbacks have the final episode included? Have a nice weekend and may the force be with you!

Indeed. It will include all present day episodes and conclude the entire story in one film. The second will finish on the cliffhanger of Osha putting on the helmet and part 2 will include all the flashbacks in chronological order.

Thank you! May the force be with you too!

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I can’t wait to see the first version you mentioned (even though you say it’s for yourself). I’m not entirely sure why so many people are insistent on the inclusion of the flashbacks.

Yeah, I say it’s for me as I got a little too carried away with requests from the MR community and lost sight of my original goal. After a few sleepless nights, I realised I could create 2 edits and try to make more people happy with various options.

I will only be watching the full conclusion film version that wraps everything up in one 2:30h movie.

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As someone who hasn’t bothered to watch the show, I think this edit will be just right for me.

“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)

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Movies Remastered said:

Darth Sadifous said:

Very much looking forward to this release. Thanks for all the hard work. I like there will be two edits to choose from as well. Will the standalone episode without the flashbacks have the final episode included? Have a nice weekend and may the force be with you!

Indeed. It will include all present day episodes and conclude the entire story in one film. The second will finish on the cliffhanger of Osha putting on the helmet and part 2 will include all the flashbacks in chronological order.

Thank you! May the force be with you too!

That structure is pretty cool, actually. Using the helmet as the bridging point for flashbacks is elegant.

What VFX shots are you adding/changing?

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