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The Abyss - Special Edition (1989) BluRay Project - see Page 2 (Released)

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THE ABYSS, SPECIAL EDITION (1989/1992) BluRay Project BD-50 x2
Two different 1080p preservations of James Cameron’s The Abyss [extended cut aka “Special Edition”], which remains commercially unreleased in high-definition to this day.

  • Blu-Ray A presents a remastered, 1080p upscale of the official R6 DVD edition.
  • Blu-Ray B uses the only true HD source of the film available (a flawed Japanese HD broadcast with an erroneous color grading, which had to be slightly cropped to get rid of the network’s logo and the Japanese hardsubs), restored with a more coherent color grading and fully remastered.

# BLU-RAY VERSION A
The Abyss, Special Edition : remastered upscale | original A.R. | SD-sourced.
Extras : Rare original 1989 EPK with on-set footage & J.C. interviews, restoration module (8 min.)
Format : BD-50 | BDMV
Video : AVC1 | 1920x1080 | 2.35:1 O.A.R. | 23.97fps | 28.000 kb/s.
Audio : English | Original DTS 5.1 | 768 kb/s.
Runtime : 02:51:26
Size : 39,6 Gb

# BLU-RAY VERSION B
The Abyss, Special Edition : remastered HDTV broadcast | cropped | HD-sourced.
Extras : Animated gallery, Unreleased SPFX test footage by S. Johnson (6 min.)
Format : BD-50 | BDMV
Video : AVC1 | 1920x1080 | 2.70:1 A.R. | 23.97fps | 28.000 kb/s.
Audio : English | Remastered DTS 5.1 | 1.536 mb/s.
Runtime : 02:52:04
Size : 40,2 Gb

Preview on YouTube : http://youtu.be/MEDRLHr6lZg
Status : <span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>DELETED</span>

Screengrabs and video comparisons [1:1] available on my blog

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I have two HD versions, so there is more than one 

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Yes, there is also the HDTV 1080i European broadcast, as explained in the table  ;-)

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Any chance you could make a few screengrabs of your HDTV version to check if it's the same as the 1080i broadcast?

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Thanks - yep, that's definitely the same as the 1080i feed unfortunately.

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No worries, worth a shot if it would help 

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Looks interesting .............. am I correct in guessing that you upscaled the Japan 720p to 1080p in the remastering?

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Indeed - I couldn't locate the original 1080i feed of the Japan broadcast unfortunately. It does the trick though - I'll release both BDs, since each version has its pros and cons.

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Video: MPG2 1440x1080 (16:9) [Video]

Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch [Audio]

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Video: MPG2 1440x1080 (16:9) [Video]

Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch [Audio]

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The 1080i version is available to download on Usenet.

Search for c-tadc on NZBCLUB. It is over 1400 days old.

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It would have been usenet at least 2 years ago, but it was a week of google-fu to find it 

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any chance of the laserdisc rip which has the JC approved 1.90:1 ratio?

it will have the original stereo soundtrack as well

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any chance of the laserdisc rip which has the JC approved 1.90:1 ratio?

it will have the original stereo soundtrack as well

Ever since James Cameron had adopted the use of the Super 35 format, he'd been framing for both widescreen and television safe, and there has been quite some discussion about how that sometimes compromises the compositions for one or the other more than if he just committed to framing specifically for one ratio. The pan-and-scan formatting often might improve a shot (e.g. the visibility of Jamie Lee Curtis' legs flailing as she hangs from the helicopter in a shot in True Lies, which adds an element of helplessness absent from the widescreen presentation). I would therefore be quite interested to see what this film looks like with a somewhat taller frame.

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bigrob, you know that I'm interesting in doing that one... if Doc could make an unapproved 2.70:1 version, who am I to NOT do an approved 1.90:1 version based on laserdisc? (^^,)

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bigrob said:

 

any chance of the laserdisc rip which has the JC approved 1.90:1 ratio?

it will have the original stereo soundtrack as well

Which LD version is this?  The one I have is 2:35:1 ratio but it is the Widescreen Extended Version, discs made in Japan.

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Both Blu-Ray discs are up  :)

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Hey Doc, I was watching your comparison video and the first bit of footage is for the official 4:3 DVD, the second is 4:3 DVD upscaled and remastered and available for download (Version A).

I thought Version A is based on the anamophic R6 DVD?

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I thought Version A is based on the anamophic R6 DVD?

 It is - which itself was produced using a 4:3 source apparently!

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