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The Abyss - Special Edition (1989) BluRay Project *BD-50* x2 *DELETED* — Page 8

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Any SE version, open matte or letterbox, is soft in comparison to the Cinemax TC; according to bitrate, I’d go with a letterbox version; better solution would be to layer two versions, to eventually squeeze out further details, and a 35mm grain plate would help as well.

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^…^ said:

Any SE version, open matte or letterbox, is soft in comparison to the Cinemax TC; according to bitrate, I’d go with a letterbox version; better solution would be to layer two versions, to eventually squeeze out further details, and a 35mm grain plate would help as well.

I was also curious, your listing says the AXN rip is 23.97 fps, but for me it’s 25. I wonder if I have a poor rip of the movie? The runtime is 2 hrs 43 min for me and it should be 2 hrs 51 min.

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Checked, it’s 23.976fps, and 2h50m57s - mediainfo:

ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=4, N=28
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2 h 50 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 8 351 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan type, store method : Separated fields
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.168
Stream size : 9.96 GiB (75%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

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Lol. That’s just it though - I can only find the 25 fps version in my searches. I will have to keep looking.

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^…^ said:

It is on the wild… “google is your friend” (usually)! 😄

I’ve found the AXN rip in many places but it’s always 25fps. I find it hard to believe you have an AXN rip that’s 23.976. Are you sure you didn’t convert it to 23.976 yourself?

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Well, I agree that my memory is not the one it used to be eons ago 😄 but not, I didn’t convert it… probably someone else did, as AXN HD is 25fps IIRC.

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stretch009 said:

^…^ said:

It is on the wild… “google is your friend” (usually)! 😄

I’ve found the AXN rip in many places but it’s always 25fps. I find it hard to believe you have an AXN rip that’s 23.976. Are you sure you didn’t convert it to 23.976 yourself?

I was able to find the AXN source, no logo, at the proper frame rate - open matte. Much better!

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Mjvmovieman said:

stretch009 said:

^…^ said:

It is on the wild… “google is your friend” (usually)! 😄

I’ve found the AXN rip in many places but it’s always 25fps. I find it hard to believe you have an AXN rip that’s 23.976. Are you sure you didn’t convert it to 23.976 yourself?

I was able to find the AXN source, no logo, at the proper frame rate - open matte. Much better!

@ Mjvmovieman

PM sent.

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Mjvmovieman said:

stretch009 said:

^…^ said:

It is on the wild… “google is your friend” (usually)! 😄

I’ve found the AXN rip in many places but it’s always 25fps. I find it hard to believe you have an AXN rip that’s 23.976. Are you sure you didn’t convert it to 23.976 yourself?

I was able to find the AXN source, no logo, at the proper frame rate - open matte. Much better!

I’m upping this to the spleen right now and there’s 4 days left of free leech.

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stretch009 said:

Mjvmovieman said:

stretch009 said:

^…^ said:

It is on the wild… “google is your friend” (usually)! 😄

I’ve found the AXN rip in many places but it’s always 25fps. I find it hard to believe you have an AXN rip that’s 23.976. Are you sure you didn’t convert it to 23.976 yourself?

I was able to find the AXN source, no logo, at the proper frame rate - open matte. Much better!

I’m upping this to the spleen right now and there’s 4 days left of free leech.

There is also a Special Edition version out there somewhere of the Cinemax rip and this Open Matte version of the SpEd edited together (possibly color corrected to match - not sure) but I haven’t found it yet. I would love to find this or to have someone do this (if it can’t be located) and mux it with the DTS 5.1 audio for the SpEd.

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Does anyone here have the original 1989 Electronic Press Kit for The Abyss (it was included on the fan archival BD this thread is dedicated to, but can’t find anywhere)? I’m also looking for OOP documentary Rubber Rules: Back Into The Abyss (2009) special 2 disc DVD by Eon productions and any other unreleased behind the scenes clips. Please post any info here or send me a private message. Thanks!

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tommodore64 said:

Does anyone here have the original 1989 Electronic Press Kit for The Abyss (it was included on the fan archival BD this thread is dedicated to, but can’t find anywhere)? I’m also looking for OOP documentary Rubber Rules: Back Into The Abyss (2009) special 2 disc DVD by Eon productions and any other unreleased behind the scenes clips. Please post any info here or send me a private message. Thanks!

Are you planning on putting together a custom disc or are you just looking to get these in general?

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I’m trying to put together a DVD with unreleased extras, but besides finding a few clips off YouTube haven’t had luck elsewhere. If something substantial pops-up (like Rubber Rules documentary or EPK) I’ll upload it on MySpleen. There are a lot of resourceful folks here, hopefully they can help…

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The Abyss (Theatrical Cut) is on Netflix UK & Ireland now…stunning HD scan , not a shit upscale.

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carrickcharlie said:

The Abyss (Theatrical Cut) is on Netflix UK & Ireland now…stunning HD scan , not a shit upscale.

Good news about the Special Edition or nothing at all.
Thank You.

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I’ve just posted my own edit of the Special Edition over at myspleen.

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Croweyes1121 said:

I’ve just posted my own edit of the Special Edition over at myspleen.

And thank you for that. I just watched it entirely. If you’re okay for feedback as I read you were considering a V2, here you go. Even though it’s pretty good, there’s still margin for improvement. The lower definition in the SE parts will always give it away, but color matching, brightness and contrast of those scenes, especially when they’re just extended parts of pre-existing scenes could benefit from additional tweaking to better blend in. I mean there are look-alike shots that don’t resemble quite enough with each other to better sell the illusion. I also noticed a glitch at 02:15:31 on the ISO Blu-ray. And on a side note, I wish the full bitrate DTS from the Chinese DVD was used instead of the regular AC3.

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Just as a remark for all holding the 25fps version and wanting to watch it in proper speed - you can adjust the audio back to the slower speed and re-flag the video accordingly by using the great tool “eac3to”.

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Beber said:
If you’re okay for feedback as I read you were considering a V2, here you go.

Always!

Beber said:color matching, brightness and contrast of those scenes, especially when they’re just extended parts of pre-existing scenes could benefit from additional tweaking to better blend in.

Taking more time with the color-correction is definitely something I’ll be doing in v2.0. That’s the area with which I have the least experience, but I do think I could refine it a bit more.

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I also noticed a glitch at 02:15:31 on the ISO Blu-ray.

Hmm, I will look into this. I’m not where I can look at it right now, so I don’t know if it is an editing error or an export issue, but either way, I’m sure it can be fixed in v2.0. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

UPDATE: I’ve just checked my disc and it plays without a glitch. Just to be safe, I tried it at 2 minutes and 15 seconds, and at 2 hours 15 minutes and 31 seconds. Played it back several times at both spots. No sign of anything. I wonder if perhaps the glitch happened on your disc when the file was burned?

Beber said:And on a side note, I wish the full bitrate DTS from the Chinese DVD was used instead of the regular AC3.

I don’t own that DVD so didn’t have access to the DTS track for v1.0, but audio was the main thing I was unhappy with on v1.0, so I’m actually getting access to that audio track as we speak. It will absolutely be a part of v2.0!

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Beber said:

I haven’t burned it. It plays glitchy on this shot (see link below) on both MPC and my Zappiti 4K HDR mediaplayer.

https://www.zupimages.net/up/18/24/97hf.jpg

Thanks for the clarification. That’s a compression error. It was either introduced during the file export, or could have been present in the original rip of the SE that I used. Honestly, I’m not too worried about that one. It was so brief and minor that I missed it even while looking for it. There was a similar - and far more noticeable - problem with the MKV version in a different location. These things will sometimes crop up, and they’re just an unfortunate (but thankfully rare) side effect of Premiere’s export. No real way to prevent it from occurring randomly, but hopefully a re-export (presumably with more available bitrate allocated to the video if I get the unmolested DTS track) will alleviate the problem on its own. 😃 Thanks again for letting me know!

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v2.0 is up at the spleen.

I actually have a v2.1 I made just for myself, because I felt one sequence in particular just didn’t match well enough…but I wasn’t about to piss everyone off with a 2.1 hours after 2.0 came out. LOL Still, 2.0 is the best publicly available version, and well worth a download for all Abyss fans. Enjoy, all!

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Beber said:

I haven’t burned it. It plays glitchy on this shot (see link below) on both MPC and my Zappiti 4K HDR mediaplayer.

https://www.zupimages.net/up/18/24/97hf.jpg

This is still in v2.0. Its obviously an issue of something specifically just not playing nice with Premiere’s export. I even tried upping the bitrate substantially and just outputting this sequence…comes out pixelated every time. Ah well. Not worth sweating over a few seconds. Definitely peculiar, though.