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Should Warb resume talking about politics?

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I'm going to put it up for a vote.

All those whom think I should resume talking politics on the forum, vote yea.  Those whom think I shouldn't, vote nay.  I will abide by the majority.  

Voting will end at the end of Friday, exactly at 12 AM 08/07/2010 (Eastern Standard Time).  

Let voting commence. 

(Just so it is clear whatever the results,  I will not bring up the situation of Ferris ignoring me ever again.

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Official vote:  Yes.

If you have something to say and aren't deliberately trying to verbally punch someone in the nose, feel free to say it.  If someone's opinion is different than yours, so be it.  You still ought to say what you want/need.

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xhonzi abstains.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Courteously.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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WHAT IN HELL GOES ON IN XHONZI!?!?!?!

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Just do what you like but get things in perspective, it's not like political discussions are of any importance or have any effect on the real world.

Money is the only thing that talks, none of us have anything like enough to get noticed so and those that do can't control where it flows even though they may sometimes think they can.

We are all passengers on this mystery tour and if there is a driver he or she drives by ear.

You might as well be talking about the sex lives of celebrities or sport or the weather you'd have just as much impact.

What will happen will happen.

How you chose to prepare for what might happen and how you intend to carry yourself while that's happening is the only thing you have some control over.

Political punditry amateur or professional is just monkey noise, sometimes funny to listen to and even to imitate but you really shouldn't take it too seriously.

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Urmpf. Darth solo has no intrests in bolloticks, but he votes yay.

Feel free to do ur ting big man, i would give you a hug if cud..........as long as you dont touch up on me

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Bingowings said:

Just do what you like but get things in perspective, it's not like political discussions are of any importance or have any effect on the real world.

Money is the only thing that talks, none of us have anything like enough to get noticed so and those that do can't control where it flows even though they may sometimes think they can.

We are all passengers on this mystery tour and if there is a driver he or she drives by ear.

You might as well be talking about the sex lives of celebrities or sport or the weather you'd have just as much impact.

What will happen will happen.

How you chose to prepare for what might happen and how you intend to carry yourself while that's happening is the only thing you have some control over.

Political punditry amateur or professional is just monkey noise, sometimes funny to listen to and even to imitate but you really shouldn't take it too seriously.

and your vote?

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^I refer the honourable gentleman to the first five words of the answer I gave some moments ago.

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Bingowings said:

^I refer the honourable gentleman to the first five words of the answer I gave some moments ago.

may I remind the honourable gentleman that one can only vote yea or nay.

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I'm not sure why you stopped, but I'm thinking it would be because you were getting upset. I don't think talking politics online is worth getting upset or angry at people over, so I vote nay.

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I think you are confusing me with Ric's pal Bit.

I can chose to respond as I see fit I am not a Yes And No Answers sort of chap, I am my own master.

My response is, "An it harm none, do as thou wilt".

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Bingowings said:

You might as well be talking about the sex lives of celebrities or sport or the weather you'd have just as much impact.

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Political punditry amateur or professional is just monkey noise, sometimes funny to listen to and even to imitate but you really shouldn't take it too seriously.

Hmm, I must respectfully disagree with both of these things. Sure it is easy to get into petty arguments and feel the need to convince others of your views, which is pretty fruitless. But I think discussions of political and social views can be immensely beneficial. To write it off as "monkey noise" or equate it to celebrity sex lives seems a little close minded and absurd. It isn't about making an impact on anyone or anything but yourself.

Life's kind of a funny thing. It is as if we are a bunch of squirrels with our eyes on one single acorn up in a tree. Some of the squirrels are in the branches above it, and some are on the ground below it, some are really close to it, and some quite far away. While one far away squirrel may say, "That acorn is huge!" a squirrel right up next to it may think, "That acorn is rather tiny." A squirrel on the ground might think, "That thing sure is high up in that tree" a squirrel on the branches above it may be thinking, "I wonder if it is really worth going all the way down there for?"

We are all looking at the same things, but from difference perspectives. If we close our eyes and choose not to listen to the "monkey noise" of others, then our own perspective is all we can ever see, and by their very nature, our own perspectives are doomed to remains incredibly tiny.

The reason why I enjoy political discussion is because I am obsessed with trying to see things through the eyes of as many people as possible, to see the world from as many angles as possible. During my discussions with Warb, I have to say I have learned a lot. Nothing extremely life changing, but I have been given the opportunity to, in some very small way, see the way things look from the angle he is standing at, which is very different from my own. With every view point of Warb's I hear and am able to understand, my perspective grows slightly larger. I have been given that same opportunity through ADM and many of the others who had at one point frequented this thread, and for that, I am extremely grateful to them. I can honestly say that many of them have gotten me to think outside of my own limited bubble of perspective that I live in, and in multiple cases, after considering their views and takes on things, I have actually come to alter mine. Through these kinds of discussions on this forum, as well as with people in person, I feel my own person perspective grows much larger than it otherwise could be. I have never been interested in sports or some celebrity's lousy sex life, but I could hardly imagine a scenario where jabbering on about that kind of BS could be in the least half as beneficial as discussions about things that actually matter in this world.

Monkey noise indeed.

 

Sorry, but I cannot give a yay or nay answer either. It is all about what you can personally handle, Warb. If hearing other people's perspectives gets your guts twisted in knots, if you grow uncomfortable with having your own perspectives challenged, then I would have to strongly recommend you stay away from political discussion (if this, then "nay"). However, if like me you get a little thrill from having you understanding of things shaken and picked apart, and enjoy taking the time to carefully mull over the pieces and try to put them back together again, even if that means in a significantly different shape, then do not even consider giving it up! (if this, then "yay")

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Bingowings said:

I think you are confusing me with Ric's pal Bit.

I can chose to respond as I see fit I am not a Yes And No Answers sort of chap, I am my own master.

My response is, "An it harm none, do as thou wilt".

very well, your ballot is invalidated.

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I'm not sure why you stopped, but I'm thinking it would be because you were getting upset. 

Yes, that is partly true, but it also has to do with the fact the I said somethings in the political that got someone whom I considered friend very angry with me.  He consequently put me on ignore.  For fear of getting in trouble again, I stopped talking politics.

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C3PX said:

Bingowings said:

You might as well be talking about the sex lives of celebrities or sport or the weather you'd have just as much impact.

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Political punditry amateur or professional is just monkey noise, sometimes funny to listen to and even to imitate but you really shouldn't take it too seriously.

Hmm, I must respectfully disagree with both of these things. Sure it is easy to get into petty arguments and feel the need to convince others of your views, which is pretty fruitless. But I think discussions of political and social views can be immensely beneficial. To write it off as "monkey noise" or equate it to celebrity sex lives seems a little close minded and absurd. It isn't about making an impact on anyone or anything but yourself.

Life's kind of a funny thing. It is as if we are a bunch of squirrels with our eyes on one single acorn up in a tree. Some of the squirrels are in the branches above it, and some are on the ground below it, some are really close to it, and some quite far away. While one far away squirrel may say, "That acorn is huge!" a squirrel right up next to it may think, "That acorn is rather tiny." A squirrel on the ground might think, "That thing sure is high up in that tree" a squirrel on the branches above it may be thinking, "I wonder if it is really worth going all the way down there for?"

We are all looking at the same things, but from difference perspectives. If we close our eyes and choose not to listen to the "monkey noise" of others, then our own perspective is all we can ever see, and by their very nature, our own perspectives are doomed to remains incredibly tiny.

The reason why I enjoy political discussion is because I am obsessed with trying to see things through the eyes of as many people as possible, to see the world from as many angles as possible. During my discussions with Warb, I have to say I have learned a lot. Nothing extremely life changing, but I have been given the opportunity to, in some very small way, see the way things look from the angle he is standing at, which is very different from my own. With every view point of Warb's I hear and am able to understand, my perspective grows slightly larger. I have been given that same opportunity through ADM and many of the others who had at one point frequented this thread, and for that, I am extremely grateful to them. I can honestly say that many of them have gotten me to think outside of my own limited bubble of perspective that I live in, and in multiple cases, after considering their views and takes on things, I have actually come to alter mine. Through these kinds of discussions on this forum, as well as with people in person, I feel my own person perspective grows much larger than it otherwise could be. I have never been interested in sports or some celebrity's lousy sex life, but I could hardly imagine a scenario where jabbering on about that kind of BS could be in the least half as beneficial as discussions about things that actually matter in this world.

Monkey noise indeed.

 

Sorry, but I cannot give a yay or nay answer either. It is all about what you can personally handle, Warb. If hearing other people's perspectives gets your guts twisted in knots, if you grow uncomfortable with having your own perspectives challenged, then I would have to strongly recommend you stay away from political discussion (if this, then "nay"). However, if like me you get a little thrill from having you understanding of things shaken and picked apart, and enjoy taking the time to carefully mull over the pieces and try to put them back together again, even if that means in a significantly different shape, then do not even consider giving it up! (if this, then "yay")

I thank you for compliments and advice.  I will consider what you've said.  While I understand your reasoning, I must invalidate your vote.   Yea or nay are the only answers that one can vote on this ballot.  Just like a public question on real ballot, there is only yes or no, not a "maybe" or a "do whatever you think best"  answer.   Sorry.

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Warbler said:

I must invalidate your vote.   Yea or nay are the only answers that one can vote on this ballot.  Just like a public question on real ballot, there is only yes or no, not a "maybe" or a "do whatever you think best"  answer.   Sorry.

C3PX said:

If hearing other people's perspectives gets your guts twisted in knots, if you grow uncomfortable with having your own perspectives challenged, then I would have to strongly recommend you stay away from political discussion (if this, then "nay"). However, if like me you get a little thrill from having your understanding of things shaken and picked apart, and enjoy taking the time to carefully mull over the pieces and try to put them back together again, even if that means in a significantly different shape, then do not even consider giving it up! (if this, then "yay")

Conditional yays and nays don't count?

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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would they count as answer on a real ballot to a public question?   nope.   Sorry Yea or Nay only. 

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I dont like where this is going, and if I dont like it then I could only imagine how politics would be.

Vote: No/Nay

Moth3r said: No, there is no video embedding option in this forum software (thank god!)

 

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Why was his vote invalidated? He clearly voted "yay" or "nay".

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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you have to vote one or the other, not both.  Are you guys from Florida, by any chance?

*sigh* I do wish this forum had poll option, than this would all be avoided. 

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Actually spoiled papers are counted and comments are often noted.

 

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Warbler said:

you have to vote one or the other, not both.  Are you guys from Florida, by any chance?

 Look at his post again more carefully. He didn't vote both.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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This whole poll is invalidated

Because he is clearly cherry picking the votes and swaying the results to the direction he wants it to go.

Now anybody here who votes/voted yes should seriously reconsider their position

Moth3r said: No, there is no video embedding option in this forum software (thank god!)

 

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Warbler said:

WHAT IN HELL GOES ON IN XHONZI!?!?!?!

Lolz.  I forgot which thread I was clicking on when this popped up, without the context of my posts above.  It really had me dazed for a second or two. 

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!