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I watched Vergence Of The Force tonight - was very impressed. Far less JarJar, a less lucky Anakin in the Naboo Starfighter and great alternative editing and score for the PodRace, as well as dialogue trims throughout - liked the way ADM did the Gungan/Droid battle too.

Certainly up there in quality and execution with MagnoliaFan's Edits. Great work ADM.


It has whetted my appetite for Ep2 - Path To The Darkside...

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5 Discs?
Eps 1, 4, 5, 6 and what?

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I think the 5th disc is #2.

ADM, I know you cut most of the 'tank' stuff with Jar Jar, but could you have used some of that footage as background stuff. I mean, the tank shooting things or just insert and image of the droids getting fried, without it being Jar Jar doing it?
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My PC will not read disc 2 at all. But it does play on a normal DVD player.
Is this some weird formatting, or a bad burn? It's okay tho, I can wait for the torrent.

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Thing was, there was this one massive explosion shot that faded to white with Jar Jar flying in the air, then another shot much later of him flying and rolling on the ground. It made sense to edit out everything in between as the result is quite seamless.

I thought earlier today that a really bold move in Ep II would have been to go from the first scene in Palp's office straight to the Jedi Council ordering Anakin to take Amidala to Naboo. This would almost completely work if you cut short the line that says "Perhaps and old friend [like Master Kenobi]." The only problem then would be why Obi-Wan is chasing Jango, as the dart wouldn't enter the storyline.

I didn't go nearly this extreme with Ep II.
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Hal, I've heard other strange things going on with Ep II. I'm unsure if it's a bad burn or something else. Clearly the burns are going through. PM me with the details about where it screws up.
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I look forward to watching your version of Episode II. I really liked your version of Episode I, as you can tell. I need a definitive version of AOTC as well.
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I'm still kicking myself for the audio dropout. I reviewed these things so many times before they went out, and at one time that glitch wasn't present. *sigh*

Well, if I re-do these edits one day in HD I'll try to have better QC. It's still a thousand times more entertaining than the original, I suppose. ;-)
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I've been watching the forum here for a while, and one thing that I've not seen much of, with a few exceptions, are screenshots of the DVD menus on fan-produced preservation of the OT. I've started a thread under the "Preservation And Fan Edits" heading in hopes that people might post screenshots here just for comparison purposes. Hopefully, I am not the only person interested in the stylistic directions that the folks working on these various productions take, so please, if you have a completed fan preservation, post a few screenshots of what your menus look like, as many of these are often little works of art in and of themselves.

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Anybody out there with a set who wants to post screen shots, please post in Andy's thread. Meanwhile, for those who haven't seen it, my menus are absolutely nothing to crow about. Two still-frame screens per disc. The idea was to take up as little room as possible so the space could be devoted to the movies themselves. My DL versions don't have the same excuse as the SL versions, but it made version control that much easier.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I'm still kicking myself for the audio dropout. I reviewed these things so many times before they went out, and at one time that glitch wasn't present. *sigh*

Well, if I re-do these edits one day in HD I'll try to have better QC. It's still a thousand times more entertaining than the original, I suppose. ;-)


Any chance you can just modify the affected DVD files and pop them up for download? I can provide the FTP account if need be, but I'm currently not familiar enough with the DVD format to know if that is possible. If it is possible maybe throw a readme in with it warning people to back up their old version so they can continue seeding the disc whenever they want.

PM me if you need the FTP account.

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If the problems are solely audio, the soundtrack could be demuxed from the souce, distributed, then reintegrated back into affected DVDs. This would be a quicker way than to upload whole .vob's. Of course you'd have to either create new menus or dispense with them altogether.
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Watched the Ep Edit 'Path To The Dark Side' tonight - a welcome insertion of Padme addressing the Senate just after the assassination attempt on her life - and if IIRC a very nice piece of editing involving the Yoda line 'seeing you again brings warm feelings to my heart' and Padme's reaction to this.

The ill-at-ease elevator scene is gone and the dialogue trims throughout the Edit gives it a more potent pace. The insertion of Obi-Wan at the Analysis Archives and later the Jedi Library will also be a welcome addition to those without the GL dvd deleted scenes - and also gives heed to mystery of Jengo Fett.

As with the MagnoliaFan Edits scenes at Padme's family home and Obi Wan with Mace at the Jedi Hangar also feature well.

ADM has also made good use of silence to enhance the Padme/Anakin courtship by the lake - and then the fireside - these pieces of editing makes Padme's falling for Anakin at least a little more believeable



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I agree, the audio on a .vob could be demuxed and a corrected one remuxed and just the one vob would need to be redistributed. (The de/remux is easy enough but the average person might be lost).

ADM: You want extreme? I've written, thrown away, and trash picked (several times now) an edit script for Matrix 2 & 3 that gives the movies a happy ending. The continuity is a bear and it's a huge project. I have great respect for you and everyone who actually pulls off a fanedit.

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Doctor M, send it my way.

As for fixing the audio, all of my stuff is backed up, but would take some very significant time to reconstruct. Not as significant as reediting everything, of course, so it could be worth it.

But with the file snatched 400 times, I wonder if I'd get crucified for saying "here it is again."

If only the remuxed vob could be assured to have only a few bytes different, it would be a quick fix for everybody. Ack!
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I've been thinking about this.

Assuming all my archived project settings load in as they were, then if I correct and re-export the AC3 file, it should only have a few changed bytes in it. If I then re-mux the movie according to its original settings, again only a few bytes should be different. The big "if" is if the recompression down to single layer will go exactly the same. If it does, then I'd have a set of VOB files that are almost identical, except by a few bytes.

From there, if the tracker will allow Rik to re-upload only the fixed portions (much how it handles resumed downloads), then the fix could be up quickly.

Assuming all those ifs are true, then it would be quite quick and easy for everybody to jump on, seed their copies, and download the fixed bytes in the process.

I know t0rrent!ng allows this, as I've been able to seed a copy that didn't have Riks .nfo files, for example. Just the missing data gets downloaded and the seeding begins.

I'm already restoring all of my WAV data in hopes I can rebuild the project from my project files. The WAVs were entirely too much to archive, so I merely kept the project files, knowing I could go back to the original source for the audio. Makes restoring a b-otch but then again I didn't actually think I'd be doing this. *sigh*

Stay tuned.
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I feel for you guys that have had bad/dodgy/burning problems with Episode 2 - ADM has done a top job in skilfully editing some of the original problem/'icky' scenes.

For some reason when I used dvdshrink 3.2 (with Nero 6 Ultra) I often had a similar problem - along with the dreaded 'cyclindrical error' whilst encoding - so went back to using dvdshrink 3.1 (with Nero 6 Ultra) - and havn't had a problem since.

Also installed Media Player Classic as my Windows Player 9.0 was being a pain in the arse playing certain dvdrs - again - since I've been using MP Classic there has been no problems.

Unsure exactly why these two programs have made such a difference to burning and watching dvdrs - but it's done the trick - maybe it's worth a try for others?

Good Luck

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How do I save an "edit decision list" as an actual MPEG2 file in womble without it screwing up?
Whenever I do it, I get a jerky picture with no audio except odd clicky sounds.

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Hmmm ... I don't think I've used that function in Womble. Are you using the export tool (in demultiplexed mode) to generate your AC3 and MPV files? Also, double check the "audio" tab in export to be sure that AC3 is checked. If you cannot check it, it means either the audio has been manipulated in some way other than a straight cut, or that two different types of AC3 are being mixed.

It is possible that my AC3 will not mix with an "official" AC3 as Vegas exports 5.1 AC3 files at 448 instead of the standard 384. I tried to change this but the software wouldn't let me. There are very long ways around this if this is your problem. Or, you can just downmix to a stereo WAV or Layer II file. You'll save the hassle, but lose true surround.
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It is possible that my AC3 will not mix with an "official" AC3 as Vegas exports 5.1 AC3 files at 448 instead of the standard 384.


The officials are 448kbps - at least the R2 ones are.

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I just checked and sho'nuf, the R1 versions are as well. Thanks for pointing that out. Rules out one issue.

I've completed the fix to my foul-up, and need to figure out how best to get it circulated. I've PM'ed Xavier in hopes we can try a little experiment. In short, I'm hoping that by replacing the existing t0rrent, only the changed packages would be downloaded. Depends if the change in the AC3 file resulted in an overall change in file size, video recompression, and VOB split points. If only a few bytes of a file changed, then a client should be smart enough to only download the changed packets.

If uploading works that way, the fix could theoretically be in circulation shortly. We'll see.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I just checked and sho'nuf, the R1 versions are as well. Thanks for pointing that out. Rules out one issue.

I've completed the fix to my foul-up, and need to figure out how best to get it circulated. I've PM'ed Xavier in hopes we can try a little experiment. In short, I'm hoping that by replacing the existing t0rrent, only the changed packages would be downloaded. Depends if the change in the AC3 file resulted in an overall change in file size, video recompression, and VOB split points. If only a few bytes of a file changed, then a client should be smart enough to only download the changed packets.

If uploading works that way, the fix could theoretically be in circulation shortly. We'll see.


Hmm...I dunno. What we need is some sort of .exe that takes the VOB file, demuxs it and then repacks it with the corrected audio.
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Or a ppf patch.

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There are other ways to accomplish that. I could make available the subtitle file, the chapter stops file, and the corrected AC3 file, but the menu would be loss (not a big loss, but it does note version, which can be helpful).

Modifying the t0w-rent is probably the best way to go, if it can be pulled off.

Moth3r ... what's a PPF patch?
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PPF stands for Playstation Patch File, but it can be used on any disc image.

Is your torrent an ISO, or a VIDEO_TS folder? If the latter, you'll have to convert to ISO using ImgTool Classic.

A tool such as ppf-o-matic will compare the ISO of your old disc, and the ISO of the corrected disc, and produce a patch file. This file can then be distributed to anyone who wants to patch their disc.

That's the theory anyway; I've applied ppf patches a few times but I've never created them myself.

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