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I have a question for anyone who might have a solution.

I think I'd like to totally remove the scene in Episode II where Anakin talks about killing the Sand People. The problem is that there's no way I can see to move from the scene before it to the scene after it. If you'll put your DVD in your player and look, you'll see what I mean. The only thing that comes to my mind is to shuffle some scenes, which won't work well for me since I can't generate my own scene transition effects.

Any bright ideas? I'd love to see this scene go, and let Anakin's trip to the dark side be somewhat more gradual.
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reave I totally forgot I PMed you in November about a copy, so thanks again and the to the person who forwarded them on it was a pleasant supprise

Oh and only one person has PMed me about a copy, so if there are two others in the UK that would like a copy please respond by PM
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
I have a question for anyone who might have a solution.

I think I'd like to totally remove the scene in Episode II where Anakin talks about killing the Sand People. The problem is that there's no way I can see to move from the scene before it to the scene after it. If you'll put your DVD in your player and look, you'll see what I mean. The only thing that comes to my mind is to shuffle some scenes, which won't work well for me since I can't generate my own scene transition effects.

Any bright ideas? I'd love to see this scene go, and let Anakin's trip to the dark side be somewhat more gradual.


Why don't you just put a wipe inbetween the scenes, or you could fade into black at the end of one scenes and fade out of black into the other.


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Episode III torrent has just been uploaded to demonoid and mininova. Episode II will follow as soon as I can finalize everything, when I find the time.
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I'm torn as to whether or not I should make this alteration to ROTS. I wanted to collect others' opinions before proceeding.

I am already removing Yoda's tearful farewell to Chewbacca and Tarrful. What I am considering is removing the Wookee battle sequence that follows the council meeting.
Because I am adding the three deleted scenes about the rebellion, I can replace the battle scene with one of these scenes.

Pros:
The Wookee stuff isn't even in the novel, it just has Yoda go there.
The novel has the scene I'd insert in the same place I'd insert it.
The Wookee battle was bad CGI and cheesy.
I'm already deleting the later Wookee scene where Yoda leaves.

Cons:
We don't get to see the Wookees in a battle.

What do you all think? I can go either way, and want to know how this change would be received. Thanks for your input.
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While I felt the Kashyyyk sequences were gratuitous, I also didn't hate them (aside from the Tarzan yell). If they bug you, you should certainly excise them though. Remember, you're making YOUR vision and if removing them makes it a better experience for you, there's no reason to leave them in.

Would the relevant portion of Order 66 stay in? That's the only bit that affects the plot.
I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.
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Hal,

Personally I didn't mind the Wookiee scenes. But I did find some of the Rebellion scenes to be painful.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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I just watched ROTS again for the first time via wookiegroomers "insanity pepper" release, and my first thought was the wookie battle and Yoda's goodbye could really go. I'd say take it out.
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Yes, the snippet in Order 66 would remain. And I am definitely cutting Yoda's farewell.

Thanks, just wanted to see how the general audience would like such a change.
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Hal, you should cut that pitiful excuse for a battle out. That scene was put in there purely for this reason, " hey everyone we know you like wookies so here is a hundred of them fighting in tall trees." It had no emotion and tracked music. The novel did fine without it and so will this.


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I say snip it. I sort of wish I had done it in my version. The battle is gratuitous and pandering... but slightly beautiful, too. Mileage varies in that regard, I suppose. Although Lucas did want to do a wookie battle back in the day, so maybe he's being true to himself, and it isn't pandering. I go back and forth on this stuff.
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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
Are you still doing an OT project, too? If so, where are the details on that? Thanks!


I just might not, we'll have to see about it. So far, it looks like "my" ideal OT set is two discs each:

ANH:
Disc 1 - Darth Editous
Disc 2 - Vintage Edit

ESB:
Disc 1 - Darth Editous
Disc 2 - Vintage Edit

ROTJ:
Disc 1 - Darth Editous
Disc 2 - Vintage Edit


There might be a few things I can tweak for myself but not enough to justify distribution, since all it'd be is modifying someone else's version. So to answer your question, I don't know at this point.
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An odd question to anyone who might know...

Some burned DVDs like my or other edits won't be read by DVD Shrink or any other program used to get it onto the hard drive. Somewhere in the midst of analyzing the disc, the program encounters an error.
Anyone know why this is? It's preventing me from retrieving some short video and audio clips from past attempts at editing, as well as a certain scene wipe from Slumberland's edit. Thanks!
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Can you do a straight copy of the files to your hard disc?
If so just open the vob files in virtualdubmod and save out the bits you want.
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Unfortunately, no. I don't know why but I can't get the DVD onto my computer at all. This happens for a few various 'home-made' discs.
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try getting around it... make an iso with imgburn (freeware), mount the iso with daemon tools (freeware) or alcohol, use pgcdemux (freeware) to rip the contents off your mounted DVD.

Nothing about fanediting is easy.

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I had been having troubles with cyclic redundencies. I found this program called CD Check. It appears to fight through those and other errors. pretty well.
Hammond
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You can always try taking your disc down to the local DVD rental store and ask them to run it through their resurfacing machine, most have them and they have saved my arse a few times, unlike those home resurface machines these ones polish the disc to look like brand new and often will allow a previously problematic DVD to read perfectly - even ones that didn't 'appear' to be scratched.

So can you browse the problem DVD in question at all? i.e. can you see the filenames or do you get a read error straight away?
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
Unfortunately, no. I don't know why but I can't get the DVD onto my computer at all. This happens for a few various 'home-made' discs.


This could be a problem with the media used. Some recordable DVDs have been found to have a very short lifespan. Some DVd's i recorded using Ritek dye based media are now no longer readable in anything due to dye degradation and these are discs that have hardly been played and have no surface damage whatsoever. The problem with this though is that its almost impossible to recover the data because its dye based and not surface. If you visit cdfreaks they have a pretty good chart & discussion about different media types and their lifespan. I switched to Taiyo Yuden branded disks a year and a half ago and I've. never had any problems with these and they are supposed to be the best for longevity .

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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
This happens for a few various 'home-made' discs.
Did you burn them in the same drive? Or were they burned in a different drive ?

If they're discs you burned, could read before, but can't read any longer, then it's possible the dye is fading as adywan suggested.
If you got them from somebody else or burned them yourself in a different drive, then it's possible the dye is still good but your current drive just doesn't like that particular dye flavor.
Unfortunately some drives don't get along with some dyes, even when the dye is new.
Definitely try reading them in as many different drives as you can beg, borrow, or steal.

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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I can play them normally in a DVD player or even on the computer.

It will read it perfectly fine until it gets to the end, in which an error message appears. On one disc, it always stops at 17%.
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
I can play them normally in a DVD player or even on the computer.

It will read it perfectly fine until it gets to the end, in which an error message appears. On one disc, it always stops at 17%.


If you can play them normally on a dvd player then the discs should be fine. Try ripping it to a hard drive on a different computer. If it still fails then it will eliminate the possibility of the problem lying with your pc's dvd drive

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The odds seem slim, but could it be a +R vs. -R compatibility problem?
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I'm not sure, but plenty of both + and - Rs have worked.

Strange problem. Thanks for all your suggestions.