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Terminator 2 Judgment Day (1991). Regraded + Partially DeRemastered + Regrained

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Yes, only some of the changes are fixed 😦
I found to big issues:

  1. The remastered BD has more detail than the old BD (much more). When cropping and pasting, the difference it’s noticeable. In some cases particularly distracting. The bike jump scene was the one that made me drop the idea. Pasting the original “Arnie’s face” back made the fix too distracting.
  2. They are different scans. To fix the changes you have to rescale, adjust rotation, color match the two scenes, and if you have the HDDVD or the 2015 BD as source for the original version, degrain it. The PQ difference, it’s just to big and there’s also one more thing you can do nothing about: the scan. When scanning a film there are some stretching and pinch effects that might be noticeable between two different scans. A comparison is the best way to describe it. Here’s a frame from The Terminator where you can see very clearly what I’m talking about:
    https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=241&y=314&d1=1563&d2=1564&s1=14761&s2=14777&l=0&i=1&go=1
    When fixing Arnie’s face in the bike jump scene, the still frames looked fine but it was noticeable in motion. Not to mention the obvious difference in PQ. Same for the equipment visible when the T-1000 is driving the truck chasing John and the stuntman in the back seat when escaping from Pescadero (blurry stains if you ask me). Just too distracting.
    So in the end, I fixed only the most obvious changes (T-1000 secret gun, truck’s flying windows, Van Damme look alike stuntman, Arnie’s face riding away from the truck’s explosion).

Resolution: 1080p
Size: 42.3 GB

Audio: DTS Master Audio, AC3 (640 kbps), Commentaries (3 tracks)

Subtitles: English, Spanish, French

A gallery (62 pics) here: https://postimg.cc/gallery/1yxegpuhm/

For more subtitles, use opensubtitles, for example, to find the one you want.

You can find it on katcr dot co (kickass torrents) (it’s ok to say where as long as I don’t post any links, right?)

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Is this regarded to the original theatrical colour?
it looks fantastic!
going to have a look for it tonight. Thanks!

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From what I understand, you used the 2017 Remastered Blu-ray?

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Setzer said:

From what I understand, you used the 2017 Remastered Blu-ray?

Yes.

triadne said:

Is this regarded to the original theatrical colour?
it looks fantastic!
going to have a look for it tonight. Thanks!

I don’t have a 35mm print or anything. I used the old BD as a general color reference (just to give an idea of the colors, but not to match them in anyway).

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sanjuro_61 said:

Setzer said:

From what I understand, you used the 2017 Remastered Blu-ray?

Yes.

Are you aware of the problems with it?

It seems to me that the whole point of this project is to attempt to fix those problems as much as can be done with what is available, and based on the screencaps it looks like he did a fantastic job. Yes, It is obvious that DNR was used on this transfer, but all issues aside there is no denying that this is by far the most detailed video source that has ever been commercially released for this film.

Are there more issues besides DNR, color timing, and a few digital fixes, all of which seem to be addressed with this project?

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T2 on 35mm looks nowhere near as detailed as the bluray. I’d say the resolution in the print is a lot closer to 1K than it is to 2K.

Also all the CGI special effects scenes are more contrasty to the rest of the film. The effects hold up and look good, but the difference is obvious on film as they don’t have the density of celluloid. Your T1 example is similar to the difference when there’s a CGI shot - the contrast suddenly goes way up, very noticeable.

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Setzer said:

sanjuro_61 said:

Setzer said:

From what I understand, you used the 2017 Remastered Blu-ray?

Yes.

Are you aware of the problems with it?

Yes I fixed some of the remastered CGI changes. The goal was fix all of them, but some were simply too noticeable. I dropped the idea. Only the most obvious ones are fixed.

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RU.08 said:

T2 on 35mm looks nowhere near as detailed as the bluray. I’d say the resolution in the print is a lot closer to 1K than it is to 2K.

Is this due to the fact that the negative is Super 35, and any print would be an optical crop and blow-up to anamorphic 35mm?

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No, Titanic was shot on Super 35 as well, but is considerably more detailed. Also you can’t pull out detail that isn’t in the negative, and as the remastered bluray is more detailed it shows there is full 2K resolution (or close to it) in the negative even when cropped. That’s what you expect with Super 35 really as you’re not using the full are of the film for picture, films shot that way tend to use the highest resolution (finest grain) negative film stocks available. The film was shown on 70mm as well, so they must have been able to pull out more detail for the 70mm prints. So the low resolution isn’t due to the negative itself, it’s due to the choice of film stocks used for the prints as well as the intermediary process.

If you ever get to see the film on 35mm, and there will be places showing prints, you’ll see that compared with other 35mm films it’s on the lower side of detail and resolution. You’d think because it was a highly anticipated blockbuster that it’d be on the higher side, but that just isn’t so.

Anyway no digital distributor would ever release it looking the way it did on 35mm, it doesn’t look “bad” by 35mm standards, but it’s certainly soft and low resolution, probably about 1K detail. True Lies is probably similar to the detail in T2, but I haven’t seen that projected in a cinema.

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The film looks amazing. And I have really only one thing I could complain about: it’s not the extended cut 😛
So really well done! And thanks for sharing 😃

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Looking forward to finally watching Dek’s T1 this weekend and following it up with your T2 👍

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MTFBWY

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Hi

I was really looking forward to view this one, as the remastered version leaves little to be desired. And it seems like I’m a little to late, as it looks like the torrent has been removed/expired (from kickass)?

Is there any other way to get this release, or if someone maybe could point me in the right direction?

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Reese said:

The film looks amazing. And I have really only one thing I could complain about: it’s not the extended cut 😛
So really well done! And thanks for sharing 😃

Thanks.
IMO, the theatrical is the one and only version. I saw the extended years ago once.
Just one time. 😄

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quick question, do you intend on including the original 5.1 CDS mix?, (found on the original 1997 dvd by live in DD and the 2003 pioneer dvd in full bitrate dts), im a big fan of it over the later 5.1 remix, either that or the original stereo would be awsome

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jam666 said:

Hi

I was really looking forward to view this one, as the remastered version leaves little to be desired. And it seems like I’m a little to late, as it looks like the torrent has been removed/expired (from kickass)?

Is there any other way to get this release, or if someone maybe could point me in the right direction?

I second this! The screenshots look great. Would love to see this.

EDIT: Whoops, looks like I spoke too soon. I think I found it. jam666, it should still be there! File size and date align with the info in the first post.